WP: From Some Bush Supporters, Anger Over Budget

[Pirate Smile]

From Some Bush Supporters, Anger Over Budget

By Dana Milbank
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, February 14, 2005; Page A15

Red America is a bit red-in-the-face over President Bush's new budget.

Within a few hours of the release of the president's proposal last week, Rep. John E. Peterson (R-Pa.), co-chairman of the Congressional Rural Caucus, fired off a statement criticizing the president he typically supports.

"We expected to fight cuts to rural programs under the Clinton administration," he said. "But those who are currently advocating these draconian cuts would not be in office today if it weren't for rural America. These cuts disproportionately target essential programs in rural communities while turning a blind eye to the wasteful spending that is rampant in many big cities across the country."

Peterson is no bleeding heart. The Pennsylvania Republican has a 91 percent lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union. But he realized quickly that the budget Bush proposed would hit hardest some of his most loyal supporters: the red states that voted GOP last year and other conservative constituencies across the country.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21552-2005Feb13.html

[ailsagirl]

1. Wow! A republican calls *'s cuts "draconian!!" I am encouraged

Thanks for posting this!!

[Pirate Smile]

5. There is a hell of a lot of GOP bitching in here - here's more

But while criticism from Democrats is to be expected, many of Bush's fiercest supporters are the angriest. For example, Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.), chairman of the Appropriations Committee, immediately dismissed Bush's agriculture proposals.

"I don't think anyone in the administration really thought Congress would go along with this," Cochran said. Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.), chairman of the Agriculture Committee, has also voiced his objections.

-snip-
GOP lawmakers are in turn getting an earful from usually supportive organizations. Thomas Cadmus, national commander of the American Legion, said the proposed cuts to veterans' health care are "not acceptable" and are an attempt "to raise revenue at the expense of veterans." (Some veterans who do not have service-related illnesses or injuries would be charged annual fees and higher prescription costs.) The American Farm Bureau Federation, likewise, has complained about the billions of dollars in agricultural cuts.

[ailsagirl]

16. I hope it's not too late to turn the tide, if it comes to that...

[Salviati]

33. Yeah, but will it change their damn vote...

or will they still vote republican like stupid sheep, that is the question.

[leesa]

67. It's their same old scam....propose thousands of cuts and compromise

down to 900 cuts. Guess which cuts will be thrown out?

[MARALE]

61. I think he knew his cuts would not go through

He knows that most of his cuts will be stopped. He will say that he tried, but the cuts he made are not supported by many republicans. Now he can say he tried to cut the budget, but it didn't go through, it isn't his fault. For some reason he wants to ruin the economy or he is just greedy and doesn't care.

[KansDem]

64. You're on to something...

I was wondering the same thing: Propose drastic cuts you know won't go through, create a firestorm of protest; then "compromise" showing the whole country what a "uniter" you are...

[Zerex71]

75. Ha! Well, they voted for him!

Can't say I feel any sympathy for these people! It's what they wanted.

[Warpy]

24. Yeah, he can cry me a river and then

jump into it and drown.

That garbage about rural programs being hit so hard is a load of horse shit. He's wailing because his fat cat agribusiness donors might have to tighten their belts.

Well, asshole, you voted for it. Now enjoy it.

[KansDem]

66. "Well, asshole, you voted for it. Now enjoy it."

Voting "Republican" is a lot like the weather: There's nothing you can do about it (apparently), so just sit back and enjoy it..." }(

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. Heh.

Heheheheheh.

John, you are a patsy. Welcome to The Buttboy Club.

[Leilani]

3. Too bad

So sad!

[Kimber Scott]

4. Why does it always have to be country vs. city? Bush is an equal

opportunity back-stabber. You'd think this guy would realize that.

[DBoon]

31. but we city folk are used to being stabbed in the back by bush

for the rural red staters this is an entirely new experience

[Kimber Scott]

70. True. True. Maybe we should send them a box of KY Jelly? Help them

get used to it.

[Boomer]

6. My heart bleeds for them

</sarcasm>

[ailsagirl]

12. Oh yes... mine too

:nopity:

[w4rma]

7. Democrats tried to warn Mr. Peterson. Stupid hardheaded patsy. (nt)

[Supersedeas]

54. Exactly...just another result of litmus test voting--have your draconian

cuts and lips service to the gay marriage issue too.

[flordehinojos]

8. GOOD!!!!!!!!LET ALL DIE HARD BUSH REPUBLICANS explode with RED IN THE FACE

OVER THEIR PUPPY DOG'S NEW BUDGET. LET THEM RAGE ABOUT IT.. AND LET THEM SEE IF THEIR PUPPY DOG IS GOING TO LISTEN TO THEM ...i doubt it. we got us a bastardly dictator of the worse kind and we are in for bad times.

[ogradda]

9. *gasp* bush is a greedy selfish backstabbing asshole!?

I am just *so* shocked!:eyes:

[hezekkia]

34. part of me laughs...

at these people, and hopes they get their asses handed to them. I think these fine, moralistic country folk should have to bear the brunt of Emporer Bush's cuts-- after all, they're the ones who voted for his policies! They should enjoy the fruits of their vote!

Of course, I feel sorry for the good Dems out in Red America. too bad they're surrounded by such doofuses.

[Mountainman]

10. Repukes can take the spoon out of everyone's mouths but there own

Hey repukes, where is that old limited government idea when your ox gets gored?

[Mad_Dem_X]

55. BINGO!

They're fine cutting programs for working-class people, but as soon as it affects them, *then* they get upset. Typical conservatives.

[Cobalt Violet]

Cry me a river pukes!

:nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity:

[journalist3072]

11. They are already experiencing buyer's regret!

I love it! Boo freakin boo for them! They should have never voted for him in the first place!

[Betty]

13. But at least gay people can't get married

they should just be thankful for that. Assholes.

[July]

53. And Bush is stabbing them in the backs on that issue, too:

www.nydailynews.com/front/story/280766p-240483c.html

Ban on gay marriage not likely to come up this year. What was that you voted for, suckers?

[SammyWinstonJack]

56. And it won't come up until the repuke leaders drag it out just in time for

the '06 elections. Why don't rank and file repukes get the disconnect between what their leaders say they'll do to get elected and what they actually do ONCE elected? :shrug:

[July]

59. Ding, ding, ding, you win a Kewpie doll!

The rethugs can't tolerate the idea that they're wrong, so they'll line up for the Kool-Aid again in '06, as you say.

[pansypoo53219]

14. boo fuckin hoo

you just reaped what you fucking sowed.

BITE my big blue ass.

[hatrack]

15. Who cares, Representative Dumbass?

Bush got the votes he needed by telling the lies that sounded good at the time.

Now (surprise surprise surprise!) it's time for cutbacks in programs that even good righteous patriotic God-fearing Red-state Republicans vote for. Hmm, who could possibly have seen that coming?

He's your boy, you doubtless stumped and sweated on his behalf, and now he's ramming it in hard and dry and breaking off, and you're COMPLAINING?

Have another mug of STFU and get back to work for your boy, dumbass.

[No Exit]

17. Hi Bush cultists! :D Congrats on winning that election! Isn't it

wonderful that THE RIGHT PEOPLE have "taken America back"? Aren't ya just so happy that you could shit?

[Mend]

18. Might try raising taxes on the rich....

I know that repukes are always told that taxes go to black welfare mothers and for television sets in prison. Who'd guessed?

[neverforget]

19. Bush to the Red States: SUCKERS!

[LeaderlessResistance]

20. President's Proposed Budget

Why should a Vietnam dodger who went AWOL from his cushy Air Force Reserve position care about Social Security, Veterans or anything else for that matter.

[SammyWinstonJack]

57. He doesn't

And these morans who voted for him are about to find out just how much AWOL doesn't care about them. :nopity: Too freakin bad!

[deadparrot]

21. Again, I can't feel sorry for them.

They're finally realizing that ** doesn't give a flying fuck about them? It's about four months too late for that, folks...you deserve everything you get.

[driver8]

23. It should have been obvious his first term he doesn't give a shit

about anyone but himself and his high powered cronies. If these people were dumb enough to elect this asshole again, they deserve all the karma coming their way.

Fuck them and their moral values.

[fob]

22. This prick just HAD to get in a dig at Clinton. What an asshole. Hey

dickhead peterson, try and think back a few years, you know when EVERYONE was getting a piece of the pie and there were surplusses so huge there were ARGUMENTS about how to spend them.

A big FUCK YOU, SIR to John E Peterson (R-Ignorant Asshole)

[Mad_Dem_X]

60. Cons are obsessed with the Clintons

Just like they are fixated on sex (especially gay sex).

[Gloria]

25. Notice how this POS implies the cities have gotten off easy...

Give me a break!

[Straight Shooter]

26. How does the budget medicine taste now, bush supporters?

A little sour? Kind of bitter? Bwahahahahaha. Why don't you make the fat cats take some medicine, too, and get rid of those tax cuts.

All those budget cuts add up to less than one month of being in Iraq. Not so gung-ho to bring liberation to Iraq now, are we, especially since we're looking at an Islamic theocracy type of government.

:nopity:

[bluestateguy]

27. Let them eat cake

Read my signature line.

[oasis]

28. Red cake, the bastids.

[Renew Deal]

29. End the red state welfare.

Most of the taxes come from the blue state and go to the red states. End it.

[Sgent]

30. Unfortunately for Bush

Senator Cochran (R-Mississippi) is going to be a giant pain in the ass for his plans. :)

Cochran, who has been in the Senate since 1976, and is the first Repub senator from Mississippi since Reconstruction, is a Dixiecrat at heart. Conservative on social issues, a little populist, and nationalistic -- he is NOT a neo-con. Remember, Cochran was Senator Lott's, the Jr. Senator from Mississippi, opposition for Majority Leader.

As head of the appropriations committee, any deal will have to go through him to get passed. Although he won't be a democrat by any stretch of the imagination, he will be much more interested in ending corporate welfare than agriculture subsidies. He will give the whitehouse some heartburn over the next four years.

[applegrove]

32. I wonder how the "values" people feel about being lied to? n/t

[hezekkia]

35. huh?

you mean lying isn't a family value? could've fooled me!

:shrug:

[applegrove]

38. The whole point of getting freepers to project their negative emotions &

instincts onto the Liberals is to get them all adolescent, pious, prissy and judgemental and ready to vote on the delusion of their superiority (goodness).

[NVMojo]

36. the wailing and whining and gnashing of teeth from the betrayed ...

should soon reach an uproar!!!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

37. "What's the Matter with Kansas?"

Apparently, a lack of common sense and self-preservation instincts when they voted for Captain Dumbass.

[Skittles]

39. SUCK IT UP, ASSHOLES

YOU VOTED FOR THE BASTARD

[underpants]

52. HA! HA! HA! *smack**smack**smack*! HA! HA! HA! *smack**smack**smack*

Line up suckers whose turn is it next.

*smack**smack**smack*

[Rainscents]

40. Red staters... You broke it and now, you OWN it!!!

Go to HELL!!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

41. Didn't yuo boys vote for THIS?

Buyers regret... boys, too late...

[LynnTheDem]

42. Hey morans; DISSENT = TREASON, so just STFU!

Payback's such a bitch. :)

[BlueManDude]

43. Why do these people hate America?

[llmart]

44. I take great delight......

in knowing that the assholes that voted for the lying coward will be hurt by Bush's policies. I also hope more of them get sent to Iraq or Iran or whereever Bushie's little folly takes them. They deserve everything they get for being so gullible and ignorant.

The rest of us want the Clinton years back!

[VirginiaDem]

45. More evidence that the slow but sure pendulum swing

has begun. Bush is spending all of his political capital on divisive issues that should come back to haunt the Republicans by 2008, if not 2006. (Forgetting the Diebold meme for a moment), we've had our clocks cleaned far worse than in 2004--1994 comes to mind immediately. And by 1996 the Contract on America was all but history--the bigger the "revolution", the bigger and swifter the backlash.

My self-appointed role over the next two years is Annoying Optimist. We're going to need one around here :-)

[Disturbed]

48. Governors should be in an uproar about this

War On Amerika budget. The states are going to suffer mightily with the hatchet job the Bush Junta will enact. Dems in Congress should be demanding a repeal of the tax cut for the top wealthy.

[katinmn]

49. You'd think. But some Govs wouldn't have their seats but for the RNC

Such is the situation in Minnesota where our Repub gov proposes to slash education and health care to the extreme, a follow-up to his deep cuts of two years ago.

He's one of those "will never raise taxes" ideologues. Instead, property taxes have gone up 25% in some areas.

[Pirate Smile]

73. Not Republican Governors - they have their marching orders and they

are sticking to them.

Gov. Bill Owens (R) and Gov. Bill Richardson (D) were on Late Edition. Richardson talked about how many of our programs are split between states and federal govt. and how this is going to hurt the states.

Owens just said Bush is great, trying to cut the deficit and Dem's say they want to cut the deficit but really don't blah, blah, blah.

Is Owens concerned about the citizens of his state that will be hurt? Hell, no. His allegiance isn't to his constituents, it is to Bush.

[wildmanj]

46. heaven forbid

what a bunch of red ass republicans----WHINER"S :nopity:

[depakid]

47. Take your medicine, crybaby

It's what you've been dishing out to urban America and even your own constituents for years- personally, I hope you and your Republican voters choke on it.

[katinmn]

50. Hee. Hee. Rove must have miscalculated his power.

and * just stepped in a big pile of poo.

[tanyev]

51. WTF?

"We expected to fight cuts to rural programs under the Clinton administration,"

What in the world does he mean by that? Because Clinton represented big cities and big business and the Republicans represent small-town people and values? Orwellian, Orwellian, Orwellian. :grr:

[Beetwasher]

58. My Message To These Bush Supporters

FUCK OFF AND DIE, YOU GET EVERYTHING YOU DESERVE! MAY YOU ROT IN HELL! SUCKERS!

[htuttle]

62. But wait until you see what Rove has in store for the 2006 midterms...

GAY MARRIAGE II
Saving America's Families (Again)
Because you're stupid enough to fall for it a second time

[Sparkly]

63. I suspect it's all a show

Maybe I'm just too much of a cynic, but my first reaction is not to believe it. I suspect they're making a show of protesting the cuts to rural programs to highlight them and make it seem they're fighting, but I doubt they are. There are cuts affecting rural constituencies, yes -- but there are also many cuts that will hurt urban communities despite their words about "rampant wasteful spending" in cities.

[leesa]

69. I agree. They've done this before. They set up this controversy

and then "save" the red staters by rejecting those cuts. This is play acting.

[LinuxInsurgent]

65. that's right...

Two things.

1) To Bush Supporters....EAT YOUR ELECTED SHIT RAW...bitches...you voted for him...you put him on top of all of us and the world...now you swallow his corporate parasite ass WHOLE. I don't want to hear your whining now...nor do I want to hear apologies or "i'm thinking twice about having voted for him". :mad:

2) Bush is beginning to implode...his corporate-neocon affinity doesn't jive well with the mostly isolationist, fiscally-conservative base. And in the end...most Americans (and certainly the Republican side, more than the Democrat) are greedy "me first, me second, me third" ideologues. They were for Bush's warfare because they had a revenge bloodlust after 9/11...but when Bush is cutting into their "bread and butter"...that's where they stop their support. That's gonna doom his presidency. GOOD!

[ernstbass]

68. You got exactly what you voted for!

no sympathy here!

[Lilith Velkor]

71. Repugnicans sure are sore winners

I mean, the rich keep their tax cuts and gays can't marry, so what's the problem?

:eyes:

[yorkiemommie1]

72. sheeple in voting booth next election:

looks at ballot, sees " Republican " and " Democrat "

mumble mumble... budget, Iraqnam, cutbacks, stabs in the back....

plays back Rove/ Repug tape in head for reinforcement, sees gays kissing... sees ten commandments ... goes into red fugue... votes Repug yet again.

[AnneD]

74. While it is extremely tempting to rub noses.....

I see this as a Bush attempt to play both sides of the fence. Propose cuts (for the Conservatives) knowing they won't survive, gut social 'big gument' programs (a long time neocon dream), and scare the public into continued defense and special interest spending for corp buddies while bleeding the coffers dry. I see it as a Golden Opportunity for the Dems to reach out to RED state voters and make inroads (see who your real advocates are)and cut into Bush's base. This budget was cold water in the face of many ('cept us of course). Dean et all need to be very vocal at every opportunity and co opt this issue. The Dems didn't play their economic strengths on the last election and let the re thugs frame a nonexistent moral argument and terrorist threat. Dems....use this as a talking point to your GOP friends...plant the seeds for change NOW.

[Digit]

77. The Neoconservatives are our enemy...Faux Republicans that they are.

Yes, many Republicans voted for the current cabal, but they were duped. Horribly duped. We need to help them see what is truly happening and WILL happen if this continues.
Pointing figers at this juncture does nothing to stop more damage from occurring.

Do you want to stop this insantity....
or be RIGHT?

Educate them.

[denverbill]

76. Waah. Waah. It's not wasteful spending if it's going to me.

We need to pay family farmers cause they are hard-working good Americans, unlike those lazy good for nothing city folks who just take our hard-earned tax money and waste it in booze.

What a moron. What a sap. Guess what bozo? According to Grover Norquist, who runs your party now, ALL government spending is bad. So get used to it.