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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:52 PM
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Pilot Allegedly Threatened to Crash Plane (United - Into Wall St)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-pilot-arrested.story

United Airlines pilot who also flew for the National Guard told a woman that he wanted to crash a plane into Wall Street because some people made "easy money" there, court documents allege.

Robert Feneziani, 44, of San Diego, was arrested Wednesday by FBI agents with the Joint Terrorism Task Force of Western New York and charged with lying on a military application for a security clearance. He pleaded not guilty and was released on $10,000 bail.

On an October application for top security clearance, Feneziani said he had not been arrested or involved in civil court actions in the last seven years, Assistant U.S. Attorney Timothy Lynch said.

Officials later found he was arrested on two misdemeanor charges in San Diego, charges that were later dropped, and was involved in a civil court matter in 2000.

According to an FBI agent's affidavit, the woman, whose identity was not revealed in court papers, called the FBI Feb. 2 and told the agent Feneziani had made a threat in 2003 to crash a plane. Based on that information, the FBI investigated Feneziani and learned he had allegedly lied on the Defense Department form, the affidavit said.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:55 PM
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1. They're going to make a lot more
"EAsy Money" if bush gets his way and they Rape our Social Security!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:53 PM
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8. Ain't that the truth...if Bush gets his way, buy stock in brokerage firms
and then use the reams of cash you make to fund political candidates who actually give a damn about America.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:57 PM
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2. Never and I mean NEVER use hyperbole that can be seen as a threat
to another person's safety.

In 15 seconds you can REALLY ruin your life.

Regardless of whether this pilot was stupidly verbose or a real threat my advice is good.


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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:02 PM
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4. Amen. Very sage advice.
And don't give voice to some of your more socially unacceptable fantasies (if carried out), either.
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:05 PM
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9. How does anyone know he really said that?
Could just be some ticked off lover looking to ruin his life.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:18 PM
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15. Yes, that's true, and ticked off people often lay in wait for a misstep
Which is why everyone needs to be careful.
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Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:59 PM
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3. Sounds like the pilot is not a terrorist
Just living too much on the edge.

Sounds like he's got some woman mad at him. Plus the misdemeanor charges and the lying.

That's not a terrorist. That's a cowboy. Hell, that could be Dubya if he hadn't lost his wings.
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MsAnthropy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:13 PM
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5. Sounds like a vengeful woman--the "threat" was made in 2003!
What took her so long?
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:16 PM
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6. How can you defend yourself against an "unnamed witness?"
Is that how it works, these days?
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:20 PM
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7. How can one witness put someone in jail for something they
supposedly said?? sounds like anyone with a grudge against his neighbor could make a quick call to the FBI with an outrageous allegation and get them locked up.

don't they need "proof" anymore???? what country is this????
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mudderfudder77 Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:29 PM
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He wasn't arrested for the threat, only for lying on his application...
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:09 PM
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10. she said the pilot made the threat in 2003
if she were really concerned why wait so long to report it?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:12 PM
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11. ...and was released on $10,000 bail????? WTF!!
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 04:13 PM by IanDB1
RELEASED ON BAIL?

Well, I don't know what's worse:

1) Releasing suspected terrorists on bail.

2) Detaining and torturing them indeffinitely without a hearing.
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mudderfudder77 Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:27 PM
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12. He wasn't arrested
for the threat, he was arrested for lying on the application.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:29 PM
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13. Guy works 20 hours a month and makes $75,000-$200,000 a year
and wants to crash a plane into Wall Street because they have it too easy? Sounds a litle strange. And then he lies on a security form - didn't anyone check the facts? This looks like a real stupid story.
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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:49 PM
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14. You ever try to FLY 20 hours a month?
Passengers are exhausted often after one leg...

These pilots strap on hundreds of millions of dollars of equipment going 600mph and they have to be perfect. No mistakes are the norm.
Perfection is the norm.

I don't know about you, but I want a happy, well-rested pilot when I fly.

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