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FauxNewsBlues Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 10:56 PM
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Iraqi Weapons in Syria. Gertz via Drudge
Up on Drudge report now.


Gertz: U.S. probe focuses on Syria weapons; Reports say nation has Iraq arms...


The U.S. government is investigating intelligence reports that Iraq sent weapons to Syria to hide them from U.N. inspectors and coalition troops in Iraq, a senior State Department official said yesterday.


John Bolton, the undersecretary of state for arms control, also told a House International Relations subcommittee that Syria is developing medium-range missiles with help from North Korea and Iran that could be fired in nerve gas attacks hundreds of miles from Syria's borders. MORE///


Be afraid folks. They are going to do Iraq again. Colin Powell will be on with charts saying we know where in Syria Saddam's weapons are, and we will go on a war footing. They will saber rattle, then head in late enough so they claim they are still looking. These a-holes must be stopped.

Drudge

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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 11:04 PM
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1. That's okay,
last week they were in Iran with their nuclear plant, and the week before that they were in Lebanon in the Bekaa valley.

Strangest thing I've ever heard of...massive amounts of weapons moving all over the place...and apparently no one, not even satellites, see a thing.

Is Ripley's 'Believe it or not' still around?
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:21 AM
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9. As soon
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 12:23 AM by Tinoire
as the Neo-Cons and the Likudniks quit arguing over which country we're going to attack next, The elusive WMDs will quit roaming all over the map and find their resting place.

We'll pulverize the place at that time.

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 11:09 PM
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2. Dupe times 3. Two here on LBN and one in GD
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FauxNewsBlues Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 11:20 PM
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4. Not Quite a Dupe
That story was about Syria trying to get weapons. This one is that they have Iraq's whole stockpile.

However you slice it, this administration is going to try to distract us with another war. My guess is an air war to "punish" them for crimes against PNAC.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 11:11 PM
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3. I wouldn't doubt it...................
I live near a USAF bombing range (location will not be revealed due to security reasons) and there has been a marked increase in activity within the past 48 hrs. A harbinger of things to come? Then again, I don't think even Bush is stupid enough to engage the U.S. in another conflict at this time. What am I saying, of course he is.
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Flying_Pig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 11:28 PM
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5. And here's why this is happening....
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 11:43 PM
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6. Maybe this is a dumb question, but I'm gonna ask anyway.
What the hell is wrong with our intelligence? I assume that we were watching Iraq very closely during the run-up to the war. Wouldn't we have seen these things being shipped across the Syrian border/ If sattelites can damn near read a license plate from space, wouldn't they have seen trucks or planes or whatever they used to ship this stuff out? I think it's crap, but that's just cynical me.
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ChewToy Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 11:58 PM
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7. The problem is...
...knowing precisely what spot of ground to look at, and at precisely what time. Satellites are powerful, but only if you have a good idea where to point them and when.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:17 AM
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8. Yes But
When the satellites pass over the horizon you send up the U2s and other goodies. Boeing has a high flyer that orbits at 90,000 feet or so. One gets damn near 24/7 covergae. This thing flys on station for a week at a time. There is no excuse for not knowing what went across the border. These guys are chasing smoke and vapors again.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:52 AM
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10. You are not getting his point.
It is the volume of stuff to be looked at that is the problem.
People have to be paid to look at it, and they have to know what
to look for, and they can only look at so much stuff per day, and
there are a limited number of them to be had. So if you don't know
where to point the cameras, you miss stuff because you lack capacity
to examine at everything, assuming you have the physical capacity to
take pictures of everything often enough.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:00 AM
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11. You Miss The Point
We have had surveillance aircarft in the Northern No-Fly zone since Gulf War One. These aircraft can track any moving object for hundreds of sqaure miles. There are only so many roads going into and out of Syria. That we did not know every time Saddam farted is an excuse!
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:36 AM
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12. With respect to the shipping of WMD to Syria that makes
some sense, because of the limited routes in and out, as
you say, but the general point that you cannot just watch
everything is also correct. It is also true that just knowing
that some truck went from Iraq to Syria doesn't necessarily tell
you much, unless the truck is open. WMD are not necessarily
all that large.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:20 PM
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14. Thanks, that's the
point I was trying to make. I don't know how they can't know this stuff.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:41 AM
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13. Gertz is the Moonie Times writer
that always gets out in front with the initial lies.

He is scum and a pathological liar.

Nothing he writes or "reports" can be viewed with anything but disgust.
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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:17 PM
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15. Can they be launched within 45 minutes?

Horrors! I guess we have no choice but to attack.

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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:19 PM
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16. Well, yes, Sagan. We wouldn't want the smoking gun...
... to be a mushroom cloud, or anything.

;-)
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:46 PM
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17. Syria is being set up for the next Invasion
probably before the election
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NoKingGeorge Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 02:18 PM
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18. Many many many trucks needed.
A Du'er did the math here a while back and showed that the Quantity of Chemical or gas ,we claimed they still had , would fill 80 t0 800
trucks depending on the gas being in those large white 'propane type' tanks or in welders tanks.
I would think someone on the ground would coordinate that or drive the trucks or maybe someone herding sheep would report that for some money. No ?
This has to be BS.
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