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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 12:06 AM
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Afghan women still in chains under Karzai
http://www.sundayherald.com/47282

Afghan women still in chains under Karzai

Kabuls central jail holds female prisoners whose only crime is their refusal to be second-class citizens. Ramita Navai reports

(snip)

Sharifa was 12 years old when she was forced to marry a 30-year-old man. He immediately began prostituting her, but Sharifa was too ashamed to tell her family and he would beat her if she complained.

After three years she gained enough confidence to run away but was caught 15 minutes from her parents house by the Taliban. As a woman travelling on her own, unaccompanied by a male family member, she was committing a crime.

When the Taliban realised she was also fleeing her husband she was instantly imprisoned. She was released after six months but forced to return to her husband.

A year later she fled and was caught again, receiving a longer sentence only this time her captors had been installed by the American-led coalition. In President Hamid Karzais Afghanistan, women are still imprisoned for running away from home.

complete story:

http://www.sundayherald.com/47282
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 12:08 AM
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1. surprise surprise eom
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Rican1 Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 12:09 AM
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2. This is the kind of Freedom were spreading
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 12:29 AM
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3. In many ways we've made Afghan women lives worse
and I detest Bush and his stepford wife for saying we've liberated them. They had the actual reports and stats and damn them for saying these women are better off.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 12:32 AM
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5. I suggest we forward this to Bush
and I encourage all to do so.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 08:12 PM
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17. Radio Address by Laura Bush to the Nation (17 Nov 2001)
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 08:13 PM by struggle4progress
Laura Bush: Good morning. I'm Laura Bush, and I'm delivering this week's radio address to kick off a world-wide effort to focus on the brutality against women and children by the al-Qaida terrorist network and the regime it supports in Afghanistan, the Tablian. That regime is now in retreat across much of the country, and the people of Afghanistan - especially women - are rejoicing. Afghan women know, through hard experience, what the rest of the world is discovering: The brutal oppression of women is a central goal of the terrorists. Long before the current war began, the Taliban and its terrorist allies were making the lives of children and women in Afghanistan miserable. Seventy percent of the Afghan people are malnourished. One in every four children won't live past the age of five because health care is not available. Women have been denied access to doctors when they're sick. Life under the Taliban is so hard and repressive, even small displays of joy are outlawed - children aren't allowed to fly kites; their mothers face beatings for laughing out loud. Women cannot work outside the home, or even leave their homes by themselves.

The severe repression and brutality against women in Afghanistan is not a matter of legitimate religious practice. Muslims around the world have condemned the brutal degradation of women and children by the Taliban regime. The poverty, poor health, and illiteracy that the terrorists and the Taliban have imposed on women in Afghanistan do not conform with the treatment of women in most of the Islamic world, where women make important contributions in their societies. Only the terrorists and the Taliban forbid education to women. Only the terrorists and the Taliban threaten to pull out women's fingernails for wearing nail polish. The plight of women and children in Afghanistan is a matter of deliberate human cruelty, carried out by those who seek to intimidate and control. <snip>

http://www.state.gov/g/wi/7192.htm

She was on this kick for about a week. Then, apparently, the Bushistas <edit spelling> thought the better of this campaign to liberate Afghani women and pulled the plug.


Beyond the Burqa
The Rights Women Need in Afghanistan are Basic Human Rights
by Laura Flanders
Published on Thursday, December 13, 2001 by WorkingforChange.com

<snip> Few were the media's details about just who was "liberating" Afghan women. Neither the first lady's speech nor the State Department report even mentioned the United States' allies' record on women's rights. Of the Northern Alliance leaders who were just then invading Kabul, most had a long record of misogyny.

General Rashid Dostum stands accused of raping, killing and looting around Kabul in 1992. His forces committed atrocities from 1992 to 1997 when he controlled the northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif. As Laura Bush spoke, Dostum was leading an assault on that city, assisted by U.S. bombing raids. <snip>

http://www.commondreams.org/views01/1214-03.htm


A long period of silence followed, after which LB reappeared in public chirping happily at the RNC about the new day in Afghanistan:

Remarks by First Lady Laura Bush at the 2004 Republican National Convention

<snip> After years of being treated as virtual prisoners in their own homes by the Taliban, the women of Afghanistan are going back to work. After being denied an education, even the chance to learn to read, -- the little girls in Afghanistan are now in school. Almost every eligible voter - over ten million Afghan citizens - have registered to vote in this fall's presidential election. More than 40 percent of them women. And wasn't it wonderful to watch the Olympics and see that beautiful Afghan sprinter race in long pants and a t-shirt, exercising her new freedom while respecting the traditions of her country.

I recently met a young Iraqi woman. She is one of the new Iraqi Fulbright scholars. She survived horrific ordeals, including the gassing of her village by Saddam Hussein. She told me that when people look at Iraq, what they don't see is that Iraq is a country of 25 million people, each with their own hope. <snip>

http://www.gop.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=4595


But here's HRW last October:

<snip> Many Afghan women risk their safety if they participate in public life, said LaShawn R. Jefferson, executive director of the Womens Rights Division of Human Rights Watch. The Bush administration is particularly proud of the progress women have made. But Afghan women themselves say their hopes for even basic rights have gone unfulfilled. <snip>

The failure of international donor countriesincluding the United States and Germanyto send promised funds on time and bolster security may adversely affect womens participation on election day. The months leading up to the election have been punctuated with violence. So far, at least 12 election workers have been killedat least three of whom were womenand dozens injured. Failing to enlist the thousands of female poll workers needed, election officials have resorted in some places to staffing female polling stations with local male elders.

The report describes how women are targeted for challenging womens traditional roles in society. Women journalists, activists and government officials have reported death threats, harassment and attacks for speaking out about sensitive womens rights issues such as divorce. Through intimidation and armed attacks, local warlord factions, the Taliban and other insurgent forces have forced the closure of womens development projects, which provide desperately needed education, health, rights awareness and job training to women and girls. <snip>

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2004/10/04/afghan9436_txt.h...





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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:14 AM
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10. Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 12:32 AM
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4. Nice...real nice.
When the Americans came I thought it would be better, but nothing has changed, says Sharifa, with a shy smile.

There are 25 women and 21 children here, jailed for drugs offences, murder and family matters which includes having sex outside of marriage. Many of the children, jailed with their mothers, have been in prison for years.

<snip>

It was three years ago that George Bush triumphantly announced: The mothers and daughters of Afghanistan were captives in their own homes, forbidden from working or going to school today women are free.

However, most women still wear the all-encompassing burqa, through fear of attack and social pressure, a third of women in Kabul do not leave the house, forbidden from doing so by the male members of the family, and it is still almost impossible for women to get a divorce.



Watch out, world..."freedom" could be coming your way next.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 12:41 AM
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8. And Bush and his stepford wife talk about how they
liberated Afghan women.

I think the Bush's finally figured out reality when Laura who had said she "really" wanted to visit Afghani women dropped the request and the press. Afghani women are still the most oppressed in the world. Bush actually made many of their lives worse. Whenever I hear him or his Stepford wife talking about how they've helped women. I want to invoke the puke avitar.
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 12:36 AM
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6. So, the question is...
...why isn't the media here in this country all over this story, since they are so liberal and all? You would think that a truly "liberal" media would jump at the chance to embarrass the Chimp government. But since the truth is that there is NO bloody liberal media here, this will be buried.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 12:36 AM
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7. No, you can't mean it . . .
The weed and pickles have lied to the nation. Say it ain't so!

:freak:
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 12:47 AM
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9. Laura, the Stepford wife, certainly
dropped her wish to visit Afghani women. It seems that the males wouldn't give the females permission to meet with her. Undaunted, as a stepford wife, she still insists Bush liberated women.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 06:42 PM
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11. Good old Unocal Karzai
He always reminds me of Ming The Merciless.

Don

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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 06:46 PM
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12. Their cause wasn't
helped by our supply of textbooks upto 94 and probably still hanging around:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:21 PM
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13. The only time Afghan women were free was under the Marxist government
Here is a 1987 article about that:

The chadori tradition is enforced by Afghan men who do not want anyone to see the face, or bodily shape, of Afghan females in public.

The men also insist women must spend most of their life apart from males, either secreted away in a curtained-off room at home or in all-female huddles whenever they gather at mosques, on buses, or among friends.

Afghanistan's bloody April 1978 Marxist revolution sought, among other goals, to liberate the nation's women from such oppression.

The communist government now allows women to enjoy freedom to dress as they please, work in the civil service, armed forces and other institutions, and enjoy other equal rights.

Not everyone is pleased with the results.

http://www.geocities.com/glossograph/afghan8711women.ht...

Why would America bring freedom to Afghan women when American women are themselves not free of patriarchal domination?
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 08:05 PM
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16. Yes!
believe it or not.
U$ corporatists are for White Man dominance.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:23 PM
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14. "Let freedom reign ..."
:puke:
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two gun sid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 07:55 PM
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15. Someone remind me......
what chimp said about Freedom and Tyranny during his coronation. I think I must have got the two confused.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 08:13 PM
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18. Anyone who's surprised, raise your hand? (n/t)
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