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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 02:12 PM
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BBC:Officer who beat boy gets $1.6m (reverse discrimination)
Edited on Thu Jan-20-05 02:14 PM by Monkie
edit:always forget the link :P
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4190965.stm

"A US policeman who was filmed punching a black youth and slamming him against a car has been awarded $1.6m (£890,000) in a race discrimination case.

Jeremy Morse, who was sacked by the Los Angeles police over the incident, said he had been treated more harshly than a black officer who was also there. "

Mr Morse was twice tried for assault but the case was dismissed after juries failed to reach a verdict. Mr Darvish was acquitted of filing a false report.

"The men filed "reverse discrimination" lawsuits, claiming a third officer, Willie Crook, who also allegedly hit Mr Jackson with a torch and failed to report the incident, received only four days' suspension because he is black"

monkie is speechless
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jasop Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 02:19 PM
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1. Absolutely pathetic n/t
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 02:24 PM
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2. Now wait just a damn minute...
are you saying the OFFICERS WHO PUNCHED THE KID is getting the $$$$?, I hope Im reading that wrong. :wtf:
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Calico Jack Rackham Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:06 PM
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3. If someone assaulted me
and then grabbed me by the nuts when they were in cuffs, then they would also get punched in the head and slammed on a car.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:09 PM
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4. Yeah?
Would you also beat up a black kid in hand cuffs because you were a piece of shit racist pig and then make up some story about how he was grabbing your nuts off camera?
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Calico Jack Rackham Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:35 PM
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8. The kid didn't get beat up.
He was punched and slammed againt the cruiser. Once he let up on the officers genitals the officer ceased using force.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 04:46 PM
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14. Uh huh.
And Emmit Till was just out for a midnight swim with an electric fan wrapped around his neck.
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Calico Jack Rackham Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:17 PM
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17. Well two juries found the officer
to be in the right.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:40 PM
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23. Hey, yeah.
Just like with Emmit Till.
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:25 PM
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20. We like to call that
"being roughed up" rather than "being beat up"
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:11 PM
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5. You would not be authorized to do so
and if you did it anyway, you would be in violation of the law. Remember, the thing the guy with the gun and badge is paid out of our pockets to uphold? Stop thinking with the little head and start thinking with the big one.
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Calico Jack Rackham Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:37 PM
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9. The officer is allowed to use force
in order to stop the suspect from assaulting him. It was not a violation of the law, and two juries thought so as well. So stop playing jailhouse lawyer. mmmkay?
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:39 PM
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10. Well, now that you've told me to shut up,
I'm falling all over myself to do so.
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Calico Jack Rackham Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:42 PM
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11. Dear sir
I did not tell you to shut up. I told you to stop playing jailhouse lawyer, ie stop substituting your opinion as valid statute.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 04:21 PM
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13. Actually, it's Dear Ma'am
I was unaware that I have to listen to a damn thing you tell me to do.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:18 PM
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Tomee450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:32 PM
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21. I would love to know
the racial composition of that jury. This is just a continuation of what has been happening for centuries. People can beat up and kill blacks and they are acquitted. Now they are even getting rewarded monetarily for their behavior. By the way, no one substantiated the claim that the kid assaulted the police.
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Calico Jack Rackham Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:45 PM
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24. Yes they did.
he had blood running down the side of his head from when the suspect assaulted the cop while being apprehended.
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Tomee450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 07:32 PM
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26. Even if what you said is true
the cops should not have assaulted the victim after he hand been handcuffed. He was no longer able to hurt them. I have heard other officers say that once a person is subdued, it is against regulations for force to be applied. That story about the victim assaulting the officer was never substantiated. There was no reason to beat up the victim after he was no longer a threat. I saw a handcuffed youth having his head banged against a car. That was not called for and had the youth not been black, I suspect certain people would not be so supportive of the actions of the police. Officers have every right to protect themselves. They are not, however, allowed to assault people who no longer pose a threat. I am black and know of other cases just like this.
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Calico Jack Rackham Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 08:13 PM
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28. If the perp hadn't been black then the cop
wouldn't have lost his job.

I also believe that a suspect should not have force used upon them once they are cuffed; unless, said subject assaults the arresting officer. The kid assaulted the police officer, which got him arrested in the first place and then decided to grab the officer's jewels so he got jawed for it. I'm sure the next time Mr. Jackson is busted he'll think twice before trying to grab an officer's testicles.
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CarinKaryn Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:16 PM
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6. omigod ...they PAID the asshole to beat up the kid
I guess they couldn't figure out a way to let him keep his job, since THIS time the evidence was caught on tape. But they had to pay him off for doing their dirty work.

won't this encourage MORE lawsuits by dirty cops who get caught?
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:28 PM
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7. Hmmm, do you think the 'pukes will include this in tort reform?..n/t
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jasonc32amg Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 04:06 PM
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12. Maybe this will be a wakeup call...
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Tomee450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:37 PM
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22. Please explain
what you mean by saying this may be a wake up call. A wake up call for what? Do you believe that had a white youth been treated as the victim was in this case that those officers would have gone free? The tape was very clear;the beating of that kid was brutal. They assaulted him after he was handcuffed and no threat at all.
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toymachines Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:11 PM
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15. the paradoxes astound me
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mudderfudder77 Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:16 PM
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16. So Why has No One Adressed the Reverse Discrimination?
It appears to me that this article is addressing the issue of reverse discrimination? So was there? Should the officer who was African American and involved in this have been tried alongside the two white officers? He "assaulted" the youth in the same manner as the other two officers.
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:22 PM
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19. It that the going rate to beat a black kid?
I remember when the incident first hit the airwaves the other police, and other wittinesses did not buy or collaborate the "ball grabbing" story.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:54 PM
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25. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS REVERSE DISCRIMINATION!
The definition of racism does not permit such a thing as "reverse racism."

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 07:38 PM
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27. True enough
Race discrimination is race discrimination and equally evil no matter what color the participants happen to be.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:03 PM
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31. BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
/sarcasm
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:25 PM
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32. in all seriousness
I agree

there is no such thing as "reverse discrimination".

There is only discrimination from individuals toward other individuals based on the victim's race.

The concept of RD is based on a collectivist mindset (with regards to race), which I explain below.

1. All individuals are primarily members of their racial class
2. Life is a power struggle between the racial classes. Whites currently hold an unfair power advantage.
3. Each individual white person is at least indirectly responsible for all discrimination against the minority races, whether present or past.
4. Every minority person, no matter how well off, is a victim of discrimination, both past and present.
5. Social power is a zero sum game. When whites gain power, minorities MUST lose power. Every disadvantage to a minority is necessarily an advantage to whites.

Because whites, as a group, hold the power advantage, only they can be racist. Racism is defined as having an unfair power advantage. Since minorities do not hold the advantage, they cannot be racist.

Reverse discrimination is discrimination against a member of the white racial class. It is "reverse" because discrimination is thought to go from whites to minorities.


I hold an individualist view of Racism, in which, the concept of "reverse discrimination" makes no sense.

1. All people are primarily individuals. Their racial characteristics are only secondary
2. All individuals have distinct interests unless they intentionally form a group interest. (That means racial groups don't have a singular interest)
3. Only those who perpetrate discrimination are responsible for it. Only those who are harmed directly, or close to it,are victims.
4. Social power accrues to individuals, a race's social power is the aggregate of the individuals' social power.
5. Racism enters public policy when racist people hold leadership positions.

Racism is when an individual is treated unfairly because of his or her race. Any person of any race is capable of this. There is no "reverse" component.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 08:20 PM
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29. So does this mean
That if I go hunt down trueblackman over at FRetard City, and beat the CRAP out of him, I can sue and get money if I get charged with assault?

If so, I LIKE it.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 08:49 PM
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30. Where are the DU cops on this thread!? Come on out, kids!
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