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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 10:20 PM
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Bush* Cites 9/11 on All Manner of Questions
References Could Backfire

President Bush paused in his Labor Day remarks about jobs and told his audience of union members, "I want you to think back to that fateful day, September the 11th, and what happened afterwards."

Usually his reminder is more subtle, but Bush is invoking the terrorist hijackings frequently as he ramps up his reelection campaign and tries to defuse the political risk posed by persistent joblessness, setbacks in Iraq and accusations that he exaggerated evidence on the road to war.

In the past six weeks, Bush has referred to "9/11" or Sept. 11, 2001, in arguing for his energy policy and in response to questions about campaign fundraising, tax cuts, unemployment, the deficit, airport security, Afghanistan and the length, cost and death toll of the Iraq occupation.

Bush's aides said his persistent references to the attacks reflect his identification with them as a searing personal experience. Some analysts said he sometimes appears to depend on such references in times of trouble or uncertainty.

more…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57456-2003Sep10.html
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Sliverofhope Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 10:25 PM
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1. It's just really disgusting
You know, you don't have to believe in LIHOP, but 95% of us should really agree, he acts like he might as well have let it happened. His complete and total lack of any remorse is just appalling.
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ahimsa Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:31 PM
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12. i think it IS backfiring
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 11:42 PM by ahimsa
Editorial cartoons such as www . incontemptcomics.com/toons/090803.gif (In Contempt) offer a good example.

edited to try to insert clickable link to comic - complete failure!
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 10:26 PM
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2. Shameless, just shameless!
If I had lost someone on 9/11, I wouldn't want * using my pain for his own political agenda or gain.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 10:30 PM
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4. You know what...
...there are those that lost loved ones on S11, and they don't want whistleass using their pain for his own political agenda...but guess what, he doesn't really give a shit what they or anyone that disagrees with him, his agenda, or his 'policies', thinks or feels...
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 10:28 PM
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3. Ooooops. Ther goes Mike Allen's question in the next "press conference"
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Arun29 Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 10:37 PM
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5. 911 Saddam Hussein 911 Saddam Hussein blah blah . . .
This article is really funny, everyone should read it. I am glad the media is finally hinting at the FACT that 911 was the only thing that saved and made his presidency. As an MBA, I was trained to think logically. Conspiracy theories aren't consipracy theories to me regarding 911. They are pure logic. As I said, 911 was the only thing that saved and made his presidency, gave him the mandate to run wild with their radical agenda. He is the single man on the planet that benefitted most from 911.

Mr. Bush, what do you propose to do about forest fires?

Mr Bush: On 911 evil men attacked us with terrorism! Fires are terrorism! We must cut the trees to stop terrorism! 911! saddam hussein! 911! saddam hussein! . . . .
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bagnana Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 10:51 PM
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6. I agree Arun --
the only reason *'s failings prior to 9/11 and the bogus buildup to Iraq are still called "conspiracy theories" is because we are being governed by one-party rule. Otherwise it would be called a Senate investigation into governmental wrongdoing.
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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:22 AM
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26. Arun29
Welcome to DU.....
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 10:52 PM
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7. Like the article says, I think it is going to start backfiring.
Cartoonists and humorists are already all over it. He'll say it once too often, say in a news conference, and people will start to snicker.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 10:55 PM
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8. I'm waiting for him to slip up and refer to ...
"those brave people who drove the airplane into the ground" -- when the FBI has concluded that it was probably the HIJACKERS who crashed it.

During past fundraisers, he's even used the memory of Flight 93 to encourage people to go out and work to elect GOP candidates. (This would be shameless if it were a Democrat saying this, and of course Bush would not hesitate to point this out!)
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 10:59 PM
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9. Glad to see this getting
some coverage. I think it's more like "reflect his identification with them as a SAVING personal experience."
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:03 PM
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10. this para take the first place prize
for finding a delicate way to state that Bush is clueless:

The attacks sometimes seem to overshadow the president's sense of previous history. "Prior to September the 11th, there was apparently no connection between a place like Iraq and terror," he said at a congressional retreat earlier this year. Iraq was first placed on the State Department's list of designated terrorist states in 1979 and has been there continuously since 1990.

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maxpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:19 AM
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27. Exactly
Yet Poppy and Saint Reagan had no problem providing him with the WMDs they can't find now. :puke:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 06:26 PM
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29. Hi maxpower!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:




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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:17 PM
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11. There's nothing subtle about it
And people are really starting to "get" it, and they're (Bushco) NOT "getting" it...It's the arrogance and hubris...
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plaguepuppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:34 PM
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13. It's the hubris, stupid!
Once people start to wake up and see the connections there's no turning back. But I think Bush and his friends are so intoxicated with their own cleverness that they just don't realize what transparent frauds they have become.

About that "searing personal experience" buisness, let's not forget that he went to bed at 10:00 that night, obviously very concerned and upset. When will the media stop trying to put a positive spin on all his gaping character flaws?
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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:58 PM
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14. Bush* is mightly thankful for 9-11 ...
... and uses it to constantly remind Americans that if it wasn't for 9-11 he would definitely be a one-term resident.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 12:06 AM
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15. About September 14th, 2001, I said that
The attacks were the best thing to happen to the Bush Family since the Gulf War. It offended a couple of people I know, but I stand by it.
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 12:24 AM
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16. Walter Kronkite ( Anchored CBS news before Rather)
was on the Larry King show Wednesday night and he said that any president would have done a good job with the 911 situation in 01.I was sure glad to hear that because I am sick and tired of hearing how well Bush did as if he did something so special that couldn't be done by anyone but him.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:45 AM
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24. Like David Cross Said. . .
"Bush was a moron on September the 10th." Nothing has changed.
The Professor
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 01:56 AM
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17. I'm getting so tired of the asshole
Bush let us down on 911 and now he thinks it's his ticket to election. It should be his ticket to impeachment.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 02:08 AM
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18. Of course he harps on about 9/11...
it was his only achievement.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 03:53 AM
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19. Goebbels would be impressed
This is how * managed to convince the public that some of the hijackers came from Iraq.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 04:11 AM
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20. DIGUSTING
certain----- Sheep---- can be induced to believe anything

I read somewhere that almost 1/2 of the SHEEP now believe Sadam caused 9/11
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:43 AM
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22. ALL of the sheep
Believe that Saddam was responsible for 9/11. And 69% of the nation at large do, also, the last poll I saw (about a week ago).

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Spentastic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 05:51 AM
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21. Someone just needs to point out
It's amazing how a similar number of people have managed to hijack an entire country and are busy flying it into the ground.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:44 AM
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23. Translation:
Bush's aides said his persistent references to the attacks reflect his identification with them as a searing personal experience.

Bush's persistent references to the attacks are meant to be an emotional DEflection of any attention to, and criticism of, his incompetentence, growing instability, and greed.


rocknation

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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:21 AM
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25. Bush* has nothing else to point to...
...so he uses 9-11 as a means of frightening people into compliance with his insane agenda.

- Bush* would have been impeached or forced to resign by now if 9-11 never happened. That's why they NEEDED it so badly.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:49 AM
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28. Bush needs never ending war on terror -Brit Rogers says its a 2 yr failure
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=10580

http://www.oxfordresearchgroup.org.uk/publications/briefings/winningorlosing.htm


Professor Paul Rogers, September 2003 "The 'War on Terrorism': Winning or Losing?" says that Two years on, we are losing the 'War on Terror' -Since 9/11, over 350 have been killed in attacks linked to al Qaida, with close to 1,000 injured - Afghanistan remains deeply unstable -occupying troops in Iraq represent '140,000 targets' and lists out in detail the attacks, both thwarted and successful, in the past two years. He says the al-Qaida network has actually been more active than before 9/11 and is collectively showing a capability that exceeds that existing before the 9/11 attacks." - that Al Qaida has grown in strength over the last two years. And that Afghanistan is a disaster because the Military victory over the Taliban was achieved partly by "the provision of large quantities of armaments to Northern Alliance forces, with these armaments subsequently cascading through warlord militias in post-war Afghanistan, strengthening the power of individual warlords and diminishing that of the putative government of Hamid Karzai."


He then suggest Jeff Sach's - and Dennis K's - solution of just get out of Iraq - whatever bad this results in will be less bad than our getting out latter - see VietNam

and suggests:
development aid to Afghanistan
UN to take a central role in Iraq
more vigorous policies to deliver improved development assistance, debt relief and trade reform to narrow the global socio-economic divide
Take the lead in setting a pro-development agenda at the EU, G8 and appropriate UN bodies
View has to encompass the possible connections between terrorism, poverty and exclusion. The growing global socio-economic divide is leading directly to the growth of radical social movements, some of which are prepared to use violence."
"Iraqis must be enabled to develop a democratic and independent state that may well choose to distance itself from Washington."
"It should be possible to involve a wider range of states in peacekeeping, including Arab states… such progress would not be readily achieved without a much clearer and more consistent support for the Israeli/Palestinian peace process."

"It is self-deluding to believe that we can make ourselves more secure through solely military means. Security will unavoidably mean sharing out the world's resources more fairly. Groups linked to al Qaida draw support from local discontent over economic, political or social injustice - symbolised, for many, on a global scale, by the US determination to keep control of key resources - chiefly, oil."

Professor Paul Rogers'latest book is 'Losing Control: Global Security in the 21st Century' (Pluto 2000, 2nd Edition 2002).
Contact: James Kemp, Oxford Research Group - 01865 242 819; [email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]

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