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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:02 AM
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LAT: Administration Considers More Aggressive Russia Policy
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-usrussia12dec12,0,2125193,print.story?coll=la-home-headlines

The Bush administration is beginning a broad review of its Russia policy that could lead to a more confrontational approach toward Moscow over its treatment of neighboring countries and its own citizens, U.S. officials said.

For the past four years, the administration muted its criticism of Russia's approach to democratic values as Washington tried to build a "strategic partnership" with Moscow to fight terrorism and weapons proliferation.

But the Bush team's approach has faced growing doubts, including from some within the administration. Now in his second term, Russian President Vladimir V. Putin has reduced media freedom and cracked down on political opponents at home, while working against pro-Western forces in neighboring countries such as Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova.

Questions about U.S. policy have gained a new urgency in the past three weeks, as the United States and Russia have sparred over a presidential election in Ukraine. Washington and the European Union rejected the results as rigged, and after public protests, the matter went to the country's Supreme Court, which overturned the victory of the pro-Russian candidate.

The outcome appeared to suggest that a more aggressive U.S. policy might help catalyze democratic change throughout the region.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:08 AM
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1. GWB: "I'm King Of The World!"

Oh this is so scary, when will it end?
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:51 AM
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28. ROFLMAO
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:09 AM
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2. Democratic change?
This is all about money. I'll bet the American investors and management in Yukos have been screaming bloody-murder to the Bushies for years now... "do something, goddammit, do something, we're gonna owe Russian taxes soon."



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aikido15 Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:12 AM
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3. and this after Russia said Thursday....
That they were ready to exercise their right to preventive military strikes since the "precedent had already been set in Afghanistan and Iraq" without naming the US..

Fucking Bush has awakened the sleeping giant with his neocon shit!
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:15 AM
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4. So now we're going to go after Condi's little sick obsession?
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 12:15 AM by rockedthevoteinMA
That's her specialty (Russia). This is going to be a frightening four years.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:13 AM
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16. Is Russia the one thing she may actually know something about?
How conveeenient!
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:35 PM
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23. I think you may have found the source of this new policy. eom
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:02 PM
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25. It drove me nuts when I found out that was her only area
of expertise... :wtf:

How does she qualify for her positions? Then I realized the more incompetent you are...the more qualified! :think:
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:18 AM
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5. Nice
War on Terrorism isn't going so well, so let's restart the Cold War.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:47 AM
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7. Fucking A.
I lived through that all my life. Now they're going to make my daughter grow up under it, too, eh?

Sucks to be us.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:11 AM
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14. That is exactly right! We are going to war with the world!! n/t
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:04 AM
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19. England is next...
... those damn allies want things, just like friends 'n stuff do.

We are a rock. We are an island.
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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:43 AM
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6. But Bush can see into his soul. HIS SOUL!!
I can't believe his good buddy Putin is no longer in favor. Next he'll be calling Blair a weak-kneed liberal socialist.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:55 AM
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8. ....Russian President Vladimir V. Putin has reduced
media freedom and cracked down on political opponents at home...
Gee...I wonder why that sounds so familiar??
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:58 AM
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10. Bush hates the competition
He is just jealous.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:12 AM
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15. DBoon, I like your Dead Kennedys avatar n/t
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:19 AM
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21. I'd rather there were a few more Live Kennedies
Their youthful deaths are enough to turn anyone into a punker
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Sperk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:57 AM
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9. Could this have anything to do with Russia's going after Iran's,
Philipine's and the Sudan's oil? Seems like Putin's been busy cutting deals while Bush has been busy screwing up the Iraq war.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:59 AM
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11. Or Russia reduces its dollar reserves
and increasing its Euro reserves?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:03 AM
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12. Bush and the GOP leadership have left American forces in a QUAGMIRE
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 01:03 AM by w4rma
within Iraq. Wtf are they going to do but bark? All bark and no bite until they figure out how to fix their mess in Iraq.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:06 AM
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13. Drool. nt
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:21 AM
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17. I'm sure it didn't help that Russia passed the Kyoto Treaty..
.. after all, that is really going to hurt Dubya's already miserable enviromental record.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:58 AM
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18. How many missile silos
do the U$ and Ru$$ia have operational.
How many Icy Bowel Movements, oops, I mean ICBMs are left?
Jesus H. Christ! Bu$h and the 'football' is not Kennedy with the 'football' during the Cuban missile crisis.

"The outcome appeared to suggest that a more aggressive U.S. policy might help catalyze democratic change throughout the region."

I bet Bu$h gets pissed off first.

Sounds like the Cold War hasn't ended, will it get hot?

Ru$$ia and the U$ are now playing for big moola stakes. Who controls the OIL. Same regions in play as in WWI, yes WWI, Germany tried to get control of Baku area ........
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:15 AM
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20. They're pretty successful at hemming in Russia on all sides.
And now they have begun to openly dare them. This is VERY scary. That's exactly what we over here are so afraid of - a new World War. And the US has military bases right in my own country...

China will be next. PNAC is their daily manual.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:39 AM
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22. bombs away, georgie porgie
do whatever your gut tells ya. now, what was it the nuns told us to do in case we got bombed? oh yeah, get under our desks and shut our eyes. that what you doing in the oval office, georgie?

sarcasm off.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:41 PM
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24. So Putin let chimp see his soul? What chimpanzee saw was
exactly what Putin wanted him to see. Chimpanzee
too stupid to know any difference.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:37 AM
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26. And the Kids, In High School, They Tell Him That He's Uncool
Cuz he's still
Preoccupied
With 19
19
1985

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:47 AM
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27. Pooty-Poot is just doing in Russia what King George is doing here.
The ol' "do as we say, not as we do" bullshit from Georgie.
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