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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 10:59 PM
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NYT: Rumsfeld Sees an Iraq Pullout Within 4 Years
KUWAIT, Dec. 6 - Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld indicated Monday that he expected American troops to withdraw from Iraq within four years, but he cautioned that any final decision hinged on the progress that Iraq's civilian government and security forces made by then.

Asked by reporters traveling with him whether United States forces would be out of Iraq by the end of his second four-year term, Mr. Rumsfeld said, "I would certainly expect that to be the case and hope that to be the case."

He noted that President Bush had repeatedly said American forces would stay as long as needed in Iraq. But his answer offered intriguing clues to his thinking on two crucial subjects: the duration of the American military presence in Iraq and how long he will stay in his job.

The Defense Department announced last week that it would increase the number of American troops in Iraq to 150,000, from 138,000, by early next month, to help provide security for the Iraqi elections on Jan. 30 and to keep pressure on the insurgency.

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http://nytimes.com/2004/12/07/international/middleeast/07rumsfeld.html
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ScrewyRabbit Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:11 PM
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1. He then smoked the rest of his bowl of crack, and passed out
on the john with his boxers around his ankles.
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stella2cat Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:26 PM
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2. LOL
"there are unknowns, and there are things we don't know"

the brilliance of the D man is astounding!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:56 AM
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22. ,,,,,and junior sez;
"I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe—I believe what I believe is
right" George W. Bush: 43rd President of the United States
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:31 PM
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7. I was thinking along the same lines as you - good one.
Rummy is the biggest joke there ever was - nothing he says means anything to anyone - I wonder why he hasn't been kicked to the pavement like the rest of the freaks in the WH. Condi must give good head - that's all I can say.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 12:45 AM
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16. What a disgusting vision.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:28 PM
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3. "Weeks, not months," said Cheney
on a Sunday morning television program.
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MO_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:28 PM
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4. From the headline,
I get the impression that Rummy thinks Iraq will pull out within 4 years, leaving the country (and OIL) to the US. Is that what he's thinking? That if we make things bad enough, Iraqis will leave?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:29 PM
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5. That was Kerry's plan, too
But I believed Kerry, because he made it clear we weren't after the oil or establishing a permanent presence.

I think you-all are right. Rumsfeld is smoking something left over from his pharmaceutical days.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 12:42 AM
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15. The * campaign ridiculed Kerry's four year plan
if I remember correctly, something about how it was ridiculous to expect that four years would be enough, or that an arbitrary time-line should be imposed.
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Edgewater_Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:30 PM
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6. Does He Foresee Us Dangling From The Bottom Of A Chopper, Too?
Douchebag.

Sorry. Just can't think of anything better to say about the douchebag.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:42 PM
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8. I suppose the next thing he'll tell us is
that there's light at the end of the tunnel.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:59 PM
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9. Four years: right about when Schrub* leaves office,
they'll pull out of Iraq, right after their blind trusts dump theit Halliburton stock.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 12:17 AM
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12. Four Years
Does he mean right after repukes use war and black boxes to get Jebstro into the White House?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 12:10 AM
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10. Rumsfeld is beginning to sound like Robert McNamara
the architect of the Vietnam War.

We are doomed!
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 12:11 AM
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11. Cut and run, cut and run. He's talking cut and run. Get back on message
Rummy. It's "Stay the course." It's hard, it's tough.
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wordout Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 12:29 AM
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13. Wesley Clark
Winning Modern Wars, page 130:

"As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia, and Sudan." Clark adds, "I left the Pentagon that afternoon deeply concerned."

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Rumsfeld: Troop pullout within 4 years = sometime between March 20, 2008 and December 6, 2008.

Right on schedule!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 12:36 AM
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14. 4 years? Hmmm, that's when morons term is up.
So what he's saying is that the troops are going to stay in iraq long enough as to allow moron to have something to talk about other than the crappy ass economy.
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Sara Beverley Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 12:58 AM
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17. 4 x 1280 = the least number of US military killed?
Just and estimate.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 01:50 AM
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18. PULL OUT BUSH. LIKE YOUR FATHER SHOULD HAVE !!!!
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:48 AM
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19. We all know how good this asshole is at predictions.
We won't last another 4 years without a draft and he swore a draft wouldn't be necessary so which is it?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:49 AM
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20. I wish Rummy's father had pulled out
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highnooner Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:54 AM
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21. Didn't they say
that providing a timetable for leaving would allow the terrorists to plan the takeover of Iraq?
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