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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:45 PM
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Neil Young Praises Michael Moore
Veteran rocker Neil Young has praised documentary-maker Michael Moore for making his political tune "Rockin' in the Free World" relevant again.

Moore used the 1989 track in his President George W. Bush-bashing movie 'Fahrenheit 9/11,' turning it into an anthem calling for a new premier in the run-up to this month's U.S. election.

The "Heart of Gold" singer says, "The way he edited the film made it very topical for now."

And Young is delighted Moore has returned to the song - to make a four-minute accompanying video.

He adds, "I just saw it for the first time half an hour ago. He's done a great job."
http://www.oldies1043.com/script/headline_newsmanager.php?id=368555&pagecontent=musicnewsoldies&feed_id=29
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:47 PM
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1. what could this video be....?
electiony thingamabobs perhaps?
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BamaLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:49 PM
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2. Alright!
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:56 PM
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7. just watched it -
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:18 AM
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14. Excellent timing, too
Thanks for the link. It's a great piece of work.
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VivaKerry Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:50 PM
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3. That's neil young.. praising someone for something that
benefited himself. Yep. Irrespective of the CAUSE that the song stands for. HE made ME, ME, ME, ME relevant again. Sheesh.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:56 PM
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4. My, that's an interesting reading, Sherlock.
Perhaps he meant that Moore had made the SONG relevant again? Maybe you shouldn't jump to conclusions about the intentions of people you are clearly not familiar with.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:59 AM
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:20 AM
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22. yeah right.....
Edited on Wed Dec-01-04 01:21 AM by Kellis
Just a little too revealing wasn't it?Red Stater huh?I think us "DUers" as you called us are all blue staters-if only in our hearts.Maybe you are the red stater?

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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:22 AM
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23. you're clueless about Neil Young--admit it
You shouldn't post about things you have no knowlege of-
one of which is Neil Young and the other which is D.U ers.
Just to help you out,
I invite you to watch Greendale, the latest movie by Neil Young.
here's a review:
http://www.glidemagazine.com/3/reviews426.html

Neil has been relevant for a long time, especially last year with his movie release,and didn't need Michael Moore (whom you probably hate, as all good conservatives do) to help "him".
listen to "Rockin in the Free World's lyrics"
It doesn't say a thing about making money and getting famous.
You really should go play with someone your own size--
We're obviously too "big" for you around here.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:46 AM
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 02:08 AM
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28. Rude much??
All your doing is disrupting and arguing with everyone.If you don't like us "DUers" and you find us so irritating as you stated in one of your self deleted posts-well-nobody is forcing you to stick around you know?
Lighten up dude.This thread isn't about you.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 02:14 AM
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29. man chill out
flame wars are BAD. dont start them


:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 03:09 AM
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33. well, with an attitude like that towards your fellow DUers...
I'd guess you really will self-delete in the near future. :eyes:


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steely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:56 PM
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5. Neil may be a little like that, but he's cool.
I read that his crew burned alternative fuel (in the busses) during their tour last year. That made me smile. Guess I'm a homer for his music.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:19 AM
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16. Neil Young is nothing like THAT.
Not even a little bit.
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VivaKerry Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:03 AM
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19. Self delete.. refer to post 18
Edited on Wed Dec-01-04 01:15 AM by VivaKerry
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:58 PM
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8. But what about Ray Bradbury?
Ray Bradbury, the self-important ungrateful fuck.
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masaka___ Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:11 AM
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11. Is that for real?
I find it hard (but not impossible) to believe Bradbury would be such an ass. It's almost Onion-esque in how exagerated it is, but it isn't that funny to read.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:15 AM
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12. I've seen a video clip
I've seen Bradbury whining to Dennis Miller about this.

There's not a whole lot of exaggeration.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:18 AM
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15. Those two deserve each other
Matched set of rightwingnut weenies.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:21 AM
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17. Bradbury has always been an ass.
It's nothing new.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:05 AM
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9. You can choose to keep your cynicism to yourself or spread it.
Edited on Wed Dec-01-04 12:05 AM by Just Me
Choose as you may while accepting the impact your choice of cynicism upon your life and every life you touch.

Just, please,...don't forfeit your choices or impose the responsibility of choices,...on others.

Okey dokey.

:bounce:
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VivaKerry Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:04 AM
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20. self delete ... refer to post 18
Edited on Wed Dec-01-04 01:15 AM by VivaKerry
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:18 AM
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13. Geez... Do you know that Neil and his wife run a school for kids with
cerebral palsy? Young has two chldren born with CP... Somehow that doesn't strike me as the kind of narcissistic self-grandizing rocker you want to paint him as.
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VivaKerry Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:07 AM
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21. Self delete.. refer to post 18
Edited on Wed Dec-01-04 01:16 AM by VivaKerry
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PittLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 02:23 AM
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30. I waited on Neil ...
he was with a group of about 12, and they were the nicest, most laid back people. His seriously disabled son was there as well, so I'm guessing he takes him with when on tour. I'll respect him, if for that alone.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 02:23 AM
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31. That is NOT a fair statement to make about Neil Young.
Neil Young's credentials are impeccable, as is his integrity. And if somebody wants to resurrect some of his stuff and apply it to a different/later era, then all the better for the rest of us. The best, most powerful and most relevant songs or artworks or commentaries are those that can apply to conditions that repeat themselves due unfortunately to relentless human stoooopidity across the years. A worthwhile message is a worthwhile message. WHENEVERTHEHELL it's used. PERIOD.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:56 PM
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6. I posted a link to this video over the weekend. See it here:
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:06 AM
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10. That's an awesome video!
Is it on the DVD? I have it, but haven't watched any of the extras.
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digitaldog Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:28 AM
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24. neil's great.....no matter what self deleters say
think before you need to delete......let's roll
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:44 AM
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25. "Self-deleters", LOL
Yes Neil is great! (Well I hated "Let's Roll" but I haven't loved everything he's done, just most of it.)

Greendale is one of the most rocking CDs ever. And incredibly relevant. Was just listening to it today.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:58 AM
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27. HE'S A GREAT CANADIAN
SO FUCK YOU TUCKER CARLSON
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 02:59 AM
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32. that's CLUCKER CARLSON
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 03:11 AM
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34. Small corps of Neil-haters
The Southern rockers got over "Southern Man" after a few years, but a lot of lefties can't forgive him for his infatuation with Reagan Conservatism in the early 1980s -- but, if I recall, it lasted all of about a year.

Neil drank the Kool-Aid, and then puked it up. Sadder, wiser, etc. He makes mistakes and learns from them, which is more than most people can say.

--p!
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 03:55 AM
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35. Yes, but there's more to it than that: he backed war on the Middle East
Young wasn't into Reaganism as a social or economic force, but specifically backed its militant foreign policy. It was a position he still maintained through the reign of Bush the Elder and Gulf War I.

In certain ways, the US atrocities in Fallujah and elsewhere in Iraq can be traced to the policies that Young embraced, foolishly.

Good that he's come to his senses. Even when he espoused right wing militancy, I still liked his older, better music (and do so today). But let's be honest about his mistake: it was no trifle. What you call a "flirtation" was the embrace of a worldview that cost many people their lives.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 06:10 AM
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36. That part is news to me
Young has occasionally (at least) criticized our military adventures, too. But it's very possible my views about his politics have been filtered through his supporters -- I don't keep close tabs on the man, but I've been hearing the intense critics off-and-on for two decades, and they all seem to point to a few bone-headed remarks he made 22 or 23 years ago, especially the one about paraplegic people "standing on their own two feet".

A lot of people have been supporters of a "strong military", generally as a reaction to hatred of the USA abroad. Now that the "strong military" is being used as the diplomatic arm of a corrupt domestic regime intent on unapologetically imposing its will, a lot of those same people are having second thoughts.

But it's a hell of a way to convince people of the folly of making war.

--p!
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 06:24 AM
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37. I'd like some more info on Neil "backing" war in the Middle East.
Recently finished the 800+ page biography of Neil Young (Shakey by James McDonough). It mentioned his flirtation with Reagan that didn't last long. Can't recall the details you mention at all. And this was a pretty damn exhaustive study.

The main thing with Neil is his music. He's gone through a number of styles; I've been a fan since Buffalo Springfield. Some of his "musical stages" have been controversial but he keeps coming back with new, good stuff.

Besides, he's retained his Canadian citizenship.



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andy15 Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 07:53 AM
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38. some can't take a joke
and Neil's comments were an attempt to help others consider both sides of a particular issue. Neil Young is a very unique artist and his contribution to music stands well against all. He also has a sense of humor.
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