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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 08:26 PM
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The Next Time Someone Says Jared Loughner's Actions Had Nothing To To With Right-Wing Thought...
show them THIS!

Explained: Jared Loughners Grammar Obsession
The alleged shooters statements closely echo the teachings of a popular far-right tax-resister movement.
By Justine Sharrock - Mother Jones
Tue Jan. 11, 2011 12:48 PM PST

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What was going on in Jared Loughner's mind? Based on his online rantings, the man who allegedly emptied a 31-round clip into Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) and dozens of bystanders Saturday was preoccupied with theories on a massive government fraud. Many of his seemingly random statementson "grammar," "the ratifications," "the new currency," and moreecho the teachings of the "sovereign citizen" movement, a right-wing school of thought alleging that Americans have been surreptitiously stripped of their God-given rights.

These are not random parallels, as I discovered in reviewing Loughner's YouTube videos. In multiple instances, he uses the precise talking points sovereign-citizen theorists teach via a thriving cottage industry of books, websites, bogus legal companies, and seminars; one popular theorist, David Wynn Miller, told the New York Times that Loughner has "probably been on my website." (It's important to note that the sovereign-citizen movement is a philosophy, not an organized movement; Loughner's interest in its teachings doesn't implicate any individuals or organizations in his actions.) A few cases in point, taken from a video Loughner posted on December 15, 2010.

"The government is implying mind control and brainwash on the people by controlling grammar." (3:34)

As the Guardian's Peter Walker and Politico's Carrie Budoff Brown reports have pointed out, this is the basic premise of the sovereign-citizen argument, which posits that government has used linguistic devices in certain laws to strip us of our rights. "This is an extraordinary freaking word game," says Alfred Adask, a guru of the sovereign movement and former publisher of the sovereign-citizen magazine AntiShyster, told me. "Not many people know how to do it or even understand it. The government has ensnared us with the sophisticated use of words and put us back into bondage. You have to master the definitions and start working out with a law dictionary."

"I can't trust the current government because of the ratifications." (3:34)

To theorists like Robert Kelly, publisher of The American's Sovereign Bulletin, the leading publication in the sovereign-citizen world, it all started with the Constitution's Reconstruction Amendmentsthe 13th, 14th, and 15thwhich established a secondary class of citizens under the control of the government. This was done by cleverly deploying phrases such as "citizens subject to the jurisdiction thereof" and "inalienable rights" (supposedly denoting rights that can be surrendered, as opposed to "unalienable rights" that can never be taken away). People in the sovereign citizens' movement believe that these subterfuges were originally used to limit African Americans' rights, but have been expanded over time to make all of us second-class citizens with limited rights. (Another favorite case in point: the use of the phrase "man or other animals" in the 1906 Pure Food and Drug Actimplying, they argue, that humans have no more legal rights than animals).

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More: http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/sovereign-citizens-jared-lee-loughner

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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 08:41 PM
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 08:51 PM
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2. I can't stand grammar nazis who can't spell.
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 09:00 PM
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 09:00 PM
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3. Flakes come in all flavors
I read here earlier that he was "influenced", in his friend's words, by the documentaries Zeitgeist and Loose Change.

That's not right or left, it's fringe.

Trying to assign ideological blame in this shooting is silly. We don't know everything there is to know about Loughner's life, beliefs, preferences, etc.. Trying to play pin-the-tail-on-the-right/left is pretty much being rejected by all but the most partisan in this country. What would you do if information came out showing, conclusively, he was on the left? Keep blaming the right?
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 09:43 PM
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5. No you won't find liberals among these fringe groups
They are anti-government, anti-tax loonies. They have links to white supremacists, antisemitic racist groups. Groups the Southern Poverty Law Center identifies and monitors as hate groups. Not the usual liberal territory. You are who you keep company with in this case. This creep would be tombstoned in two posts almost anywhere on DU for spouting any of this shit.
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 09:54 PM
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7. Oh please
I recall a thread praising Zeitgeist on this very forum.
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 09:45 PM
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6. Yet to me he sounds like a junior Glen Beck .. n/t
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