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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:04 PM
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Oopsie! Local Baptist preacher busted for asking man for sex
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:06 PM
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1. Jebus will forgive him.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:06 PM
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2. 'sinful, destructive lifestyle."
Perhaps he wanted to read the man some scripture (after the bj of course).
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:07 PM
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3. "...and his 2005 Mercedes automobile was impounded..."
:rofl:
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:08 PM
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5. On the broadcast news they caught up with him as he was leaving the
jail, he said he was "conducting a prayer service" in it. BWAHAHAHAHA

He's been on local TV many times defending Bush, condemning homosexuals and all that shit...
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:11 PM
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13. He needs to collect for his lawyer's fees tonite.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:12 PM
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14. LOL "conducting a prayer service"?
I think I'll sneak on over to the SBC site to see how they spin this. :D
I hope the idjit goes down hard.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:15 PM
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19. Well, he wanted someone down on their knees at least!
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:45 PM
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40. Are you sure..
.... he wasn't planning on giving rather than receiving? :)
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 10:01 AM
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93. I just heard on channel 6 that he said his congregation will understand
Sure they will. I was raised in the southern baptist church and trust me they will understand, but not what he thinks. what a tool.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 12:16 PM
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100. those Baptist preachers sure don't take a vow of poverty, do they????
It would be interesting to know the median per capita income of these fundie scum. The mega-mega-church guy whose wife was kicked off the airplane has mega-bucks too.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:08 PM
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4. Oh, that's rich
That link is going to be passed around a lot tonight!

HAHAHAHAHA
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:09 PM
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6. Love it!
I can't stop laughing.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:10 PM
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7. not just a local preacher, Exec Committee Mbr of Southern Baptist Conven!
He has spoken out against homosexuals, same-sex marriage, and in support of trying to turn gays away from their "sinful, destructive lifestyle".

I'm sure he wasn't really asking the undercover cop for a blowjob, he was just trying to "convert" him.

:rofl:
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 04:47 PM
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104. It would be ironic if he were at Disney World when this happened :)
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:10 PM
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8. Not Just A Preacher! Exec. committee member of S. Baptist Convention!
Edited on Wed Jan-04-06 06:11 PM by Southpawkicker
An executive committee member of the Southern Baptist Convention was arrested on a lewdness charge for propositioning a plainclothes policeman outside a hotel, police said.

Lonnie Latham, senior pastor at South Tulsa Baptist Church, was booked into Oklahoma County Jail Tuesday night on a misdemeanor charge of offering to engage in an act of lewdness, police Capt. Jeffrey Becker said. Latham was released on $500 bail Wednesday afternoon.

Latham, who has spoken out against homosexuality, asked the officer to join him in his hotel room for oral sex. Latham was arrested and his 2005 Mercedes automobile was impounded, Becker said.
<snip>

Latham is one of four Southern Baptist Convention executive committee members from Oklahoma.

Sad, probably a sex addict.

on edit, I posted just as another poster did almost the same title.
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:10 PM
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9. Why am I not surprised? n/t
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:10 PM
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10. Are they all hypocrites?
<snip>
He has also spoken out against same-sex marriage and in support of a Southern Baptist Convention directive urging its 42,000 churches to befriend gays and lesbians and try to convince them that they can become heterosexual "if they accept Jesus Christ as their savior and reject their 'sinful, destructive lifestyle."<snip>
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:28 PM
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27. Answer:
Most likely, yes.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:13 AM
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87. In their hearts, I sincerely believe, more often than not.
I think it's overstating the case to insist that all homophobes are closeted homosexuals, but I don't doubt for a minute that homophobia does stem from a denial of basic sexual urges, which can be directed toward members of the same sex, in most all of us.

I believe most 'phobes are terrified of those urges, and seek solace in their homophobia.

Some actually wind up "pastoring" other men on the sly; I doubt that most do, though.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 01:45 AM
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79. Correction
Just the loud mouths like him who make a big deal out of it.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:11 PM
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11. He was also (big surprise) an anti-gay activist!
Edited on Wed Jan-04-06 06:15 PM by IanDB1
<snip>

Latham is one of four Southern Baptist Convention executive committee members from Oklahoma.

<snip>

Latham, who has spoken out against homosexuality, asked the officer to join him in his hotel room for oral sex. Latham was arrested and his 2005 Mercedes automobile was impounded, Becker said.

<snip>

He has also spoken out against same-sex marriage and in support of a Southern Baptist Convention directive urging its 42,000 churches to befriend gays and lesbians and try to convince them that they can become heterosexual "if they accept Jesus Christ as their savior and reject their 'sinful, destructive lifestyle."

More:
http://2worksforyou.com/news/stories/pastor.shtml
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 04:46 PM
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103. "He has also spoken out against same-sex marriage".
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:11 PM
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12. Here is their website
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:13 PM
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17. South Tulsa, suburbia, where the SUV's rule!
One of the rightest (wing) and whitest(race) areas of Tulsa

I was tempted to send him an e-mail, but I think he is probably humiliated enough
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:19 PM
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22. No, he's not humiliated enough.
There is no such thing as "humiliated enough" for those people.

Okay, maybe if CNN spent half an hour televising him running naked down the freeway while the cops chased him.

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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 07:44 PM
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59. I Disagree
and believe me I don't have any love for fundies at all

but I think this guy is a sex addict and I won't add to his pain
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 09:09 PM
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67. he's a liar and a hypocrite
He has also spoken out against same-sex marriage and in support of a Southern Baptist Convention directive urging its 42,000 churches to befriend gays and lesbians and try to convince them that they can become heterosexual "if they accept Jesus Christ as their savior and reject their 'sinful, destructive lifestyle."
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 10:16 PM
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72. No argument that he is a liar and a hypocrite
but that doesn't make not a sex addict, or any less human.

No I don't feel that he shouldn't have to face the music,

I just have no personal investment in e-mailing him to add to his humiliation.

My choice.

My Karma
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 01:42 AM
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77. i would not email him
but i have no sympathy for him, and i have no idea if he is or is not a sex addict. i do know that he is a liar and a hypocrite.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 08:10 AM
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83. What about the pain he causes by denying equal rights to others?
I don't think he's learned his lesson yet.

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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 10:17 PM
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73. "Humiliated enough" means dirt nap time for these folks
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:18 PM
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21. OK, does the music minister's picture ping loudly on anyone else's gaydar
or was it just me?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:23 PM
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24. You're not alone.
A gay music director! Heavens to betsy! Who ever heard of such a thing?
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:58 PM
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44. I bet the ORGANIST
is straight though.

:rofl:

I don't think I EVER met a straight SBC Music Director -

Wait - I did a short stint filling in for a small church in OHIO - and I'm straight - though at the the time, the man I was married to turned out to be gay - so I guess it all evens out. :)
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 07:32 PM
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57. Queen, PLEASE!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 07:25 PM
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56. and heeeeerrreeeeee's LONNIE!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:26 AM
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89. I like this one better
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:13 PM
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15. But you left out some of the best parts - he got his 2005 Mercedes impound
he was soliciting a "prostitute", he's one of four Southern Baptist Convention executive committee members from Oklahoma and he was urging its 42,000 churches to befriend gays and lesbians and try to convince them that they can become heterosexual "if they accept Jesus Christ as their savior and reject their 'sinful, destructive lifestyle."

Loud Fundie = closeted hypocrite who's in it for the money.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:20 PM
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23. Gawd only knows what kind of sick, depraved gay acts Fred Phelps performs
Edited on Wed Jan-04-06 06:21 PM by IanDB1
But I bet Romney and Santorum just like it on their backs with their feet up.

Some people say.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:13 PM
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16. These thugs always get caught! LOL
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DemGirl7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:13 PM
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18. You have love the hypocrisy....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:16 PM
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20. See also, the never-ending chronicle of church-related crime.
See also, the never-ending chronicle of church-related crime.
http://heartlandvalues.blogspot.com/2000/06/never-endin...

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:24 PM
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25. Loonie Lonnie Latham
Oklahomans affirm BFM, CP; adopt $21.7 million budget ...
CBF homosexuality stance ignites controversy ... ... and recording secretary,
Lonnie Latham, director of missions for the Tulsa Baptist Association. ...
http://www.baptist2baptist.net/b2barticle.asp?ID=163

Okla. Baptists affirm CP, challenge 'New Tolerance' - (BP)
... other efforts by media or institutions to mainstream the homosexual lifestyle. ... First
Baptist Church in Sapulpa, second vice president; Lonnie Latham, pastor of ...
http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/printerfriendly.asp?ID=1...

tbaptist.com PBC June 2004
The homosexual revolution has been aided and abetted by many who are bisexual,
... Lonnie Latham, pastor of a South Tulsa Baptist church now appears in his ...
http://www.tbaptist.com/aaa/pbc/2004/pbc0406.html
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:26 PM
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26. Another local link (shorter story but has his claims of "being set up"
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:43 PM
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37. ah...so that's his angle
poor, persecuted lonnie. they must be after him because he's doing the lord's work, or maybe he's a victim of agents of the homosexual agenda.
sadly, his flock will be eager to swallow his excuse....no pun intended :evilgrin:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:45 PM
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41. There are only two ways it could have gone down as a "set-up"
Either:

1) The cop made the first move and the pastor said "yes"

2) The pastor made the first move and the cop said "busted."

Either way, the guy was willing to solicit sex (for money?) with a stranger.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:26 AM
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88. It Had To Be For Money, Didn't It?
It's not against the law to suggest to another person that they find a room and have sex. The only thing that makes it illegal is for money to be part of the negotiation. It's not solicitation otherwise.
The Professor
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:12 AM
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86. Chanelling Marion Barry, is he?
:nopity:
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:31 PM
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28. The church is asking for prayer
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:34 PM
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31. ...
Edited on Wed Jan-04-06 06:34 PM by WritingIsMyReligion
They forgot to add: "Clients of Mr. Latham scheduled for this week, please stop in the rectory at your appointment time, and another pastor will be glad to substitute."
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:34 PM
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32. What are their vict...er, parishoners supposed to pray FOR?
That he beats the rap?

:D
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:28 AM
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90. praying that they will be able to hire a new minister without too much...
difficulty
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:35 PM
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33. praying it blows over quickly
i can't WAIT for the spin old lonnie will put on this :evilgrin:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 10:30 PM
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75. huh huh. huh huh huh. You said "blows". eom
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:42 PM
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36. Oh, yeah. I have some "prayers" for them.
Let's ask Rev. Fred Phelps to pray for their pastor.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:44 PM
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38. indeed
the reverend "godhatesfags" phelps would be the perfect person to minister to loonie in his time of need.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 01:49 AM
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80. I wonder how the church is with this
That must be something difficult to go through. I remember several years ago we had some troubles with our church (some members tried to gang up on our elders and make them do things that we were against) and that was difficult. I hope they can get passed this. I wonder what will happen to the guy. Will he still be able to preach? Worship with them or what?
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 04:36 PM
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102. please god,don't let me turn fruity like pastor lonnie n/t
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:32 PM
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29. Gotta love them preachers.
Fine, moral, upstanding citizens, they are. Not an inch of hypocrisy in 'em.

:eyes:
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:33 PM
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30. when keeping it real goes wrong
:rofl: thank you, god :rofl:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:37 PM
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34. What really honks me off
Are the folks who wrap themselves up in the Bible to play to popular prejudices. I have no idea what kind of person Lonnie Latham, the man named in this story, is. According to the report, and folks in Oklahoma will know better than me, he's on record as condemning homosexuals. How much freer would Mr. Latham be, how much better would he be able to answer his call to the ministry, if he didn't feel the need to deny who he is? Instead, he denies something that is at the very core of his essence in order to drive a late model Mercedes, get the praise of others, and encourages others to despise him for who he is.

Is it all worth it, Brother Latham? What have you succeeded in doing except to destroy yourself and hurt the mission you claim so support?
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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 07:11 PM
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50. Great point
Think of the good he could have done if he weren't pimpin his life away.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:41 PM
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35. picture are good
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:44 PM
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39. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
fucking hypocrites
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:45 PM
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42. He was just preaching a lesson - It's better to give than to receive.
Jesus said "where two or three are gathered together in my name ...."

No cheesy motel exclusions, so they're good.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 07:01 PM
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45. ..."he was set up, and was in the area ministering to people."
"After posting bond, Latham told K-F-O-R T-V in Oklahoma City that he was set up, and was in the area ministering to people."
http://www.whotv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4319306&nav=2HA...


Ministering what?





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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 07:09 PM
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49. He thought it was a confession booth.
He was praying!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 07:19 PM
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54. Probably plays a
mean organ. My better half is loving this :rofl: :rofl:
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:55 PM
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43. He was just trying to trick that man
into coming up to the room to get "prayed STRAIGHT" and maybe a little laying on of hands!

:rofl:

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Tummler Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 07:02 PM
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46. "Brokeback Mountain" made him do it!
:sarcasm:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 07:05 PM
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48. No, it was King Kong
Edited on Wed Jan-04-06 07:07 PM by IanDB1
A Local Priest Tries a Little Monkey Business During "King Kong"

Finally, Austin has come of age. We're all grown up now, like other big cities in America - Boston, we're looking at you. No, we didn't start a multi-million dollar construction dig. No, we didn't win a super bowl or get a massive international airport. We got a priest sex scandal!

Apparently, the Reverend Paul Clogan entered a Marble Falls theater Friday night, found a nice seat next to a 16-year-old boy (in a theater with plenty of available seating) then about an hour into the movie he tried his version of the ol' popcorn trick - groping the boy, after not having said a word to him, much less having bought him any JuJu Bees. (Now save all of your high-and-mighty "this is not funny, a child was mollested" wrath. Yes, it is sad, though not surprising, that a spiritual leader could be this deviant, and yes, there is a victim here. But we don't think said victim will be living with emotional scars for the next several decades because of it. Seriously, a Rabbi totally got to second base with us at the premiere of Jaws II, and we're, like, totally well-adjusted.)

After being groped, the boy decided he could probably read about the movie on IMDB and high-tailed it ouf of the theater. He told a manager about the incident, who, in turn, contacted the fuzz. John Q. Law arrived in short order, played some shoot-em-ups in the arcade and arrested the old (alleged) pervert when he came out of the theater....crying like a bitch like the rest of you who went and saw the film.

Apparently Clogan became a priest in 1999 after his wife died. Guess dating just seemed like such a hassle. Besides, at 68, the internet can be pretty tricky. He then moved from Maine to Texas 2001 in search of a flock. He found one in St. Catherine of Siena here in town and later St. Joseph in Bryan, St. Joseph in Mason and Holy Trinity in Llano. Clogan has served at a church in Horseshoe Bay since last year, and while he's has never suffered charges of molestation or inapproriate behavior, it certainly seems like a lot of moving around. Of course, we know nothing about the church, so there's that. Oh, but we do love jesus juice, if that counts for anything.

Although there were no witnesses, the police say the boy's story checked out. How they came to that conclusion we're not real sure. Clogan has apparently hired a lawyer, and local church leaders are asking parisioners to pray for both Clogan and the boy during these hard times.

Amen.

More:
http://www.austinist.com/archives/2005/12/21/a_local_pr...
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 07:13 PM
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51. I'm not making any judgments here but I have never in my 63 years
gone to a movie alone, and for DAMN sure not when I was a teen.

Hm.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 08:33 PM
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61. Seriously?? I do it all the time, have all my life & sometimes prefer it.
I'm really just curious that you find it so unusual.

I like a lot of stuff my family isn't always jazzed about (not the shoot-em-up stuff they go for), so I frequently go by myself and enjoy it soooo much more. I don't have to be annoyed by my companion falling asleep (& snoring) or fidgeting in their seat the entire time.

I love going during the weekday when theaters are nearly empty or have only singular people like me (mostly women also).

Just asking because I am curious why you think it's not normal.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 10:14 PM
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71. I didn't mean to imply there's anything wrong with going alone to a movie
just that in my experience (as a male) I find it highly unusual at least in my own peer group. Apparently mileage varies :D

I think girls are probably more likely to do it but I don't have any empirical evidence for that opinion, it's just my impression...

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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 10:40 PM
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76. You're probably right about girls more likely than boys.
'Course I say that from my own anecdotal evidence, so I really don't know either!

I love movies, esp French art house cinema and David Lynch stuff - now, why am I always going alone??? hahahahaha ;-)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 07:03 PM
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47. Lonnie Latham, Ralph Reed = anti-gambling advocates. Abramoff connection?
Wouldn't that be special?

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 07:13 PM
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52. Lonnie wants to finish well
recording secretary, Lonnie Latham, director of missions for the Tulsa Baptist Association. Outgoing President James Robinson, pastor of First Baptist Church, Durant, told messengers as he celebrated his 50th birthday he has been thinking about crossing the finish line.

"I want to finish well," he said.
-----------------------------
He's finishing well OK. :rofl: :rofl: Damn these people have money.

http://www.baptist2baptist.net/b2barticle.asp?ID=163
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 07:13 PM
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53. Are baptists fundies?
Edited on Wed Jan-04-06 07:15 PM by superconnected
or are they some of the thousands of churches in the US that accept gays.

I ask because of the 4000 UCC churches in the US, half are open and afirming.

I don't know if baptists have a ratio of gay accepting churches.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 07:20 PM
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55. Yeah, they're basically fundies. They don't allow sex while standing up--
it might lead to dancing.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 09:17 PM
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68. ROFLMAO!!!! n/t
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 08:37 PM
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62. There are actually gay-friendly Baptist and Southern Baptist churches
Baptist groups that are inclusive of sexual minorities
and those committed to Baptist principles:

http://www.rainbowbaptists.org/baptists.htm
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 09:04 PM
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65. he's southern baptist
Edited on Wed Jan-04-06 09:06 PM by noiretblu
and a vocal homo-hater.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 07:36 PM
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58. Now he said he was "set up".
I said once, I'll say it again QUEEN PLEASE!


http://pageoneq.com/rssfeedstuff/index.php?id=5274
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 07:46 PM
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60. Wait! Since when do ministers of any gender
drive late model Benzes? Lutheran pastors still drive Ford Focuses (Foci?) and such.
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B3Nut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:10 AM
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85. Blab-It-And-Grab-It Preacher Fred Price..
...drives a Rolls-Royce, insisting that it's God's will for a preacher to be prosperous.

Todd in Beerbratistan
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jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 10:14 AM
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97. oh honey....
Edited on Thu Jan-05-06 10:17 AM by jackster
all those S. Baptist, Pentecostal, Charasmatic, and Indie Preachers drive expensive cars! Doncha know God TOLD them that they could drive only the best!

There are lots of megachurches in the bible belt and beyond that support their "pastors" in a very la-ti-da lifestyle while most of the members just struggle to make ends meet.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 08:40 PM
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63. why is this against the law?
it doesn't sound like he offered to pay, or asked for money, so it wasn't prostitution. was it illegal because of the language he used? because he asked a man? what?
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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:28 AM
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91. Maybe he can beat the charge by arguing that...
...the law discriminates against homosexuals.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 08:42 PM
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64. Wow!
"Latham, who has spoken out against homosexuality, asked the officer to join him in his hotel room for oral sex. Latham was arrested and his 2005 Mercedes automobile was impounded, Becker said."

He speaks out against the very thing he is. AND he is just a pastor yet he drives a 2005 Mercedes? So many things wrong here.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 09:09 PM
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66. Deleted message
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:52 AM
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92. They who? n/t
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 10:04 AM
Response to Reply #92
94. The ones who build up their post counts with non-sequitors....
Hoping to start a thread before they encounter that frozen pizza.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 10:09 AM
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95. Oh those. OK. n/t
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 01:56 PM
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101. Ye gads!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 09:44 PM
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69. I'm thinking that maybe asking that one man for sex --
Edited on Wed Jan-04-06 09:48 PM by Old Crusoe
-- was the most honest, soul-true thing the guy has done for ages and ages -- and now he's busted for it. Not fair.

His record against the "lewdness" of homosexuality stands against him, to be sure. Shame on him for that.

How great it would be if he held a press conference to apologize for the hypocrisy and then declare that he will unapologetically live the life he damn well wants to from this point forward.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 10:04 PM
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70. Was His Last Name Phelps?
It would be even better if he was part of the Phelps cult!
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 10:19 PM
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74. Was he actually soliciting a prostitute?
Edited on Wed Jan-04-06 10:37 PM by Nikki Stone 1
"...asked the officer to join him in his hotel room for oral sex. Latham was arrested and his 2005 Mercedes automobile was impounded, Becker said....The arrest took place in the parking lot of the Habana Inn, which is in an area where the public has complained about male prostitutes flagging down cars, Becker said. The plainclothes officers was investigating these complaints..."


The impounding of the car leads to that conclusion. Maybe lewdness was the downgraded crime?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 01:44 AM
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78. Oh of course
And of course he does the old "Satan made me do it" type of line. "Oh I didn't do it! I'm innocent!" If he was innocent and what he says is true why didn't he go to the police? Or someone?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 01:50 AM
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81. I used to find these stories funny
now they just piss me off.

I despise "religious" rightwingers. They are truly loathsome, evil people.

Their entire movement is about destroying other people's lives.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 06:52 AM
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82. Kick
:kick:
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 08:21 AM
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84. Good grief..Hypocrisy at its finest folks...n/t
Edited on Thu Jan-05-06 09:19 AM by converted_democrat
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 10:11 AM
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96. To be fair, maybe he was just trying to "save" the man and was
misunderstood. :sarcasm:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:38 AM
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98. Loonie Lonnie Latham Updates
Edited on Thu Jan-05-06 11:47 AM by IanDB1
Thursday, January 05, 2006
Thou shalt not solicit undercover cops

Not to pick on church folks, but this story already appears eight times in Nexis:

* OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) An executive committee member of the Southern Baptist Convention was arrested on a lewdness charge for propositioning a plainclothes policeman outside a hotel, police said.
* Lonnie Latham, 59, senior pastor at South Tulsa Baptist Church, was booked into Oklahoma County Jail Tuesday night on a misdemeanor charge of offering to engage in an act of lewdness, police Capt. Jeffrey Becker said. Latham was released on $500 bail Wednesday afternoon.
* Latham, who has spoken out against homosexuality, asked the officer to join him in his hotel room for oral sex. Latham was arrested and his 2005 Mercedes automobile was impounded, Becker said.

Any number of parables, aphorisms, verses and sayings apply. The church's Website doesn't attack homosexuals, from what I can tell. There is, however, lots about following the Bible and real estate acquisitions.

More:
http://news.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=:ePkh8BM9ExLS4lPySiw...


Prominent Baptist minister arrested in gay prostitution sting

A member of the Southern Baptist Convention's executive committee has been arrested in Oklahoma City on charges of propositioning a male undercover police officer.

The Reverend Lonnie Latham has spoken out against homosexuality in the past.

More:
http://www.wbir.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=31184



Police: Pastor propositioned officer

Thursday, January 5, 2006; Posted: 9:59 a.m. EST (14:59 GMT)

OKLAHOMA CITY, Oklahoma (AP) -- A pastor who has spoken out against homosexuality was arrested after propositioning a male undercover police officer outside a hotel, authorities said.

More:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/01/05/lewd.pastor.ap /


Pastor Propositions Plainclothes Officer In Motel

January 5, 2006 11:02 a.m. EST

Ayinde O. Chase - All Headline News Staff Writer

Oklahoma City, OK (AHN) - Reverend Lonnie Latham, leader of the Southern Baptist Convention, has been arrested in a motel parking lot on a lewdness complaint. The Reverend Latham propositioned a plainclothes policemen investigating the area where male prostitutes allegedly frequent.

Latham preaches to the congregation at the South Tulsa Baptist Church and is on the executive committee of the Southern Baptist Convention. In the past, he has been a vocal opponent against homosexuality and same-sex marriage.
After posting bond, Latham issued a statement that he was set up, and was in the area ministering to people.

More:
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7001769206


Pastor who preached against gays arrested on lewdness charge

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) A pastor who has spoken out against homosexuality was arrested after propositioning a male undercover police officer outside a hotel, authorities said.

More:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-01-05-pastor-a...



ANTI-GAY BAPTIST PRIEST ARRESTED FOR SOLICITING MALE PROSTITUTE
http://www.gcn.ie/content/templates/newsupdate.aspx?art...


Pastor with anti-gay stance accused of soliciting male prostitute

Associated Press
Jan. 4, 2006 04:46 PM

OKLAHOMA CITY - A leader of the Southern Baptist Convention has been arrested in Oklahoma City on a lewdness complaint for allegedly propositioning a plainclothes policeman.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0104pastor-arres...


Southern Baptist leader arrested for soliticing policeman
Minister says he was in the area ministering to people
Jan 4, 7:20 PM

An executive committee member of the Southern Baptist Convention was arrested on a lewdness charge for propositioning a plainclothes policeman outside a hotel, police said.
http://www.washblade.com/thelatest/thelatest.cfm?blog_i...


Anti-Gay Pastor Busted For Trying To Pick Up Male Prostitute Decoy
by The Associated Press
Posted: January 4, 2006 - 9:00 pm ET
(Oklahoma City, Oklahoma) An executive committee member of the Southern Baptist Convention was arrested on a lewdness charge for propositioning a male plainclothes policeman outside a hotel, police said.
http://www.365gay.com/Newscon06/01/010406lewdPastor.htm

Baptist Leader Solicits Male Prostitute
http://www.shortnews.com/shownews.cfm?id=52086

Anti-Gay Preacher Arrested for Soliciting Sex from Male Undercover Cop
http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?sectionid=1&id=6698


Also, here is a series about the hotel where the pastor was arrested:


Art Miller
Habana Series
ATM Gallery
511 West 20th Street
Chelsea
March 25-April 24, 2005

Cowpokes After Hours
Art Miller documents a homoeroticism burning beneath the highways neon glare


Art Millers Habana Series closed this past weekend at ATM Gallerys new Chelsea space, but the exhibitions photographs can still be found on the gallerys Web site at atmgallery.com and in its in-house portfolio of images.

ATM Gallery recently relocated to West 20th Street in Chelsea from its former home in the East Village, a refreshing change because in this new small gallery the focus is on the art, not the gallerys architecture. I just happened to walk by and noticed five mysterious black and white photographs that lured me inside.

The images are strangely revealing and unfold very slowly. At first, they appear as documentary-styled photographs of ultra-masculine cowboys on the road, bedding down at a cheap motel. But gradually we realize that more is going on than just sleep. It seems that we are witnessing something hidden, something unspoken, something anonymousand something as ancient as time.

Miller visited the Habana Inn, a motel in Oklahoma City, over a period of 17 months. By setting up a 35 mm camera inside his rented room he proceeded to capture the underground sexual charge of this otherwise anonymous motel. At night, rooms are rented by your cowboy next-door, curtains pulled back and doors wide open. Sitting in your room you can observe and be observed by men passing by as they stroll the common sidewalk around the balcony. The glass of the rooms window, which heightens the effect of anonymity, obscures the images, creating an effect reminiscent of the red-light district in Amsterdam where hookers stand in shop windows to be purchased. After dark the cruise is on.

More:
http://www.atmgallery.com/artwork/press/miller.html
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:53 AM
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99. Lonnie Latham has a Wikipedia entry already
Lonnie Latham
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Dr. Lonnie Latham serves as the senior pastor of South Tulsa Baptist Church, in Tulsa, Oklahoma, a post he has held since 2002. Latham also serves on the executive committee of the Southern Baptist Convention, one of four such members from Oklahoma.


History in the Tulsa Baptist Association

Lonnie Latham was elected director of missions for the Tulsa Baptist Association during their November 13-14, 2000 meeting. The meeting also saw the controversial adoption of the 2000 Baptist Faith and Message, a pivotal document in the Southern Baptist Convention's "Conservative Resurgance." According to one report, Latham has spoken out against expansion of tribal gaming in Oklahoma, as well as against homosexuality. In the latter vein, he supported the SBC's adoption of a policy encouraging Baptists to befriend gays and lesbians and "convert" them to a heterosexual lifestyle.

The September 16, 2001 edition of Tulsa World describes Latham as executive director of the Tulsa Metro Baptist Association. Clergy see spiritual rebirth as downcast Americans ask why (PDF).

More:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonnie_Latham
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 07:01 PM
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105. But the preacher would have been forgiven afterward, right?
So that makes it ok!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 07:03 PM
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106. Who would Jesus sex up?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:05 AM
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107. Rev. Lonnie Latham--Another Victim of the Southern Baptist Lie
Rev. Lonnie Latham--Another Victim of the Southern Baptist Lie Regarding Homosexuality
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 09:15 AM
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108. GAY Republican hypocrite? I'm shocked. SHOCKED!
Now, the good pastor COULD have used his energy helping the poor, the down-trodden, the anti-war activists.
But noooooo; Goood ole LONNIE, here, chose as his cause the anti-gay crusade, in the guise of "helping" them.

Next time, Lonnie, try focusing on something Jesus spoke about.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:21 PM
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109. Collection of Lonnie Latham threads on DU
Edited on Sun Jan-08-06 05:24 PM by IanDB1
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