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Northwestmom4Kerry Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:38 PM
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Jeff Fisher going on the radio airwaves in 20 minutes!
go to his website for a link to listen live....

http://www.jefffisherforcongress.com/
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life_long_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:51 PM
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1. Thanks for the info.
I look forward to hearing what he has to say.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:58 PM
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2. Thanks, I'm waiting. Two minutes. n/t
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YellowDoginthehouse Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:04 AM
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3. I couldn't get it-what did he say?
n/t
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:05 AM
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4. I'm waitin' but this DJ sounds like Captain Video
I think he is about to give the weather forecast for Mars.
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:08 AM
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5. LMAO I thought so too!! n/t
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:09 AM
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6. Jeff Fisher is on now
hard to understand
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:15 AM
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11. We're sorry, you've reached a station that is unavailable at this time
Please try again later.

For someone who was supposed to have the real scoop and evidence on voter fraud in Fla, I'd say this is a pretty piss poor way of communicating. Based on this, I would probably vote for the other guy.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:12 AM
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8. Sounds like a ham radio with a bad speaker
The bad modulation is giving me a headache. So far Fisher is repeating the well known allegations about Fla and Ohio but nothing whatsoever about his claim of evidence.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:09 AM
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7. I can't make the sound work so pls report-thanks
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Northwestmom4Kerry Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:13 AM
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9. What a station....
It says it has reached it's maximum number of listeners!

So Jeff Fischer has the biggest story since watergate, and this is the only forum he can find?

Guess I should have tuned in first before I let everyone else know! ....lol
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Northwestmom4Kerry Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:14 AM
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10. Maybe we should e-mail him and have him contact Randi Rhodes
then we can all listen!
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ramblin_dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:15 AM
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12. Program failure - repeating message
We're sorry, you've reached a station that is unavailable at this time, please try again later...
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:18 AM
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14. The DJ
says they're going to post the segment after the show in case you missed it. He's very excited about all the traffic, but it's like a bad cell phone connection. "Can you hear me now?"
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:20 AM
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17. He is saying that Kerry is not being a coward, but he knew if he
went to court right away he would be ridiculed, so he is waiting. then he said the DNC sent legal counsel - and it went out.
He is talking about FBI, it is too hard too understand
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:18 AM
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13. It started off ok and it became an "Unavailable Station"
How strange. Anyone have a way to email over there? What a shame and I wonder if it's accidental? (Don't mean to sound like a conspiracy theorist)..

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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:20 AM
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16. Fisher
believes Kerry is "going to come out in a week or so" because he's watching what's happening "real closely"?
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:19 AM
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15. OK, based on this I have come to a conclusion
As much as I would like to think that a bunch of juvenile delinquents in a detention home were forced to hack into voting computers and change the vote nationwide, as Fisher has previously suggested, I do not think advocating such an idea would be wise.

Better I think would be to suggest that Fisher arrived on Earth from the planet Tinfoil.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:34 AM
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30. Sadly, his story about juvenile delinquents sounds
completely crazy.
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 07:20 PM
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60. This has been discussed before on DU--his case is reasonable
People in Florida who knew a number of the names in he's mentioned and are familiar with what really goes on in Florida juvenile detention centers found that his story actually added up very well.
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MinneapolisMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:25 AM
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18. It's 11:25 pm
and it's still on here (MN).

Ugh, it's really hard to understand what he is saying. (My advice: if you ever go on a live radio program, DO NOT use a cell phone. It sounds like crap.)

The radio host did mention it will be available in their archives eventually...and hopefully a transcript will be too.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:25 AM
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19. Has alot of detail....
either A well thought story or crazy ring of truth.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:26 AM
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21. Just lost him again
Maybe Ashcroft finally caught up to Fisher.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:27 AM
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22. A Rovian trap. A lightning rod to divert the media from the real stuff
like what Bev Harris is digging up.

This is something custom-designed to allow the media to flaunt and laugh at those crazy conspiracy theorists.

Jeff Fisher may not know it, but I suspect it is a setup.
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Copperred Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:35 AM
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33. cynic...

i agree...this seems odd... but maybe i have become the ultimate cynic....

and that trippy christian right music...wat was that...h
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 07:13 PM
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59. I'm beginning to agree.
Hide a nugget of truth (election fraud) in a crazy implausible story told by an unreliable person (which, I don't know, he may or may not be) to TOTALLY sink the story.

Remember "Fortunate Son"?

Remember the CBS debacle -- basically the truth hidden in a dubious memo, so the whole things goes down in flames?

Let's put a little distance between the issue and this guy.
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wantkerryin Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:26 AM
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20. sounds like...
a woman? this guy is missing testosterone!!
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:27 AM
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23. But you can't deny
he has some balls
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wantkerryin Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:29 AM
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24. he does, and he's using them well! n/t
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:30 AM
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26. fisher says
been contaced by mainstream media and i think he said bill maher
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wantkerryin Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:34 AM
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28. yes and also pallossi, mike moore's pr....
this station is kinda crappy i think i just lost the feed
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:29 AM
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25. He says the FBI is definitely doing something and he won't speculate
on whether they are in cahoots with Bush admin. or not. Bill Mahre contacted him he said
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:31 AM
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27. he sounds like
woody allen
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:34 AM
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29. what did he say about
robert trent jones?
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wantkerryin Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:35 AM
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31. that he's in touch with them in accordance to the evidence
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:39 AM
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36. He is talking about how there are many places where there are
more votes than voters but I do not think he has any new information on or conclusive information done electronically. Tim Russert is wary wants to come forward with parties from both side. the host said that not fisher
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donachiel Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:35 AM
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32. Still on as of 12:35 am EST
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donachiel Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:39 AM
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37. Sounds very clear now
I'm on DSL though. Talking about Diebold - 100,000s of votes before polls opened in Florida. Constant overages across Florida. Tim Russert wanting to come forward with information.

Speaking about Diebold's source code.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:36 AM
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34. What happens next....?
Not saying I belive it yet but what happens if it turns out to be true?
How do they prove it and prove who was involved?
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:38 AM
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35. DJ is saying
that there is a rumour that Tim Russert is looking into fraud
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:41 AM
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38. The more he rambles the less I belive him.
Starting to sound a little looney.
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donachiel Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:41 AM
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39. Talking about DES
DJ is saying Rove is like an attack dog and suggests to Jeff go ahead hard and strong.

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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:42 AM
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41. The commentator said there is a rumor that Tim Russert (NBC )
is wary or suspicious . He suggested he may come out with this on his show in the next few weeks. Jeff Fisher couldn't confirm.
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wantkerryin Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:42 AM
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40. I don't think he should be dropping names like this...
What if the wrong people are listening??? I'm scared now. I hope this doesn't turn over against Kerry. :{
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Copperred Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:44 AM
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42. PRECEDANT???

WHEN HAS THERE BEEN A NATIONAL REVOTE FOR PRESIDENT????
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GDoyle Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:50 AM
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43. Here is a biography of Fisher
Look, I hate to say it, but this guy sounds a bit loony. He talks wildly about all these conspiracies he's unconvered, but to date I have seen no hard evidence.

And he's apparently run for Congress twice and I haven't heard a thing about him until AFTER the election. And I'm a political junkie by the way.

By his own biography he does not mention one single job he's ever held. He mentions some volunteering and the like, which is commendable. But what makes this guy think he's qualified to do anything? Serve in Congress? Investigate major crimes? I see no evidence of that either.

http://www.jefffisherforcongress.com/indexenglish.html

Sorry folks, unless proven otherwise, Fisher is a kook. I really hope I'm wrong.

GDoyle
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:52 AM
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44. he has a job
Currently, Jeff Fisher is employed in the Neurodiagnostic Industry.
His educational background consists of an Associates of Science in accountancy with a concentration in economics and international affairs. He also attended an photography school in Rhode Island where he met his wife of 16 years and graduated their two year program with honors also.
Since moving to Florida over four years ago, Jeff Fisher has not served on any political committees for the sole purpose of devoting his spare time to listening and remaining involved on a personal level across the entire State of Florida regarding medical care, civil liberties, taxation, restoration of the Everglades, law enforcement, prison reform and the loss of individual Voting Rights since November 2000.
Although Mr. Fisher has spent 31 years as a Activist in the political arena promoting other candidates, he has gravitas in connecting with voters and issues that reflects his District.

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GDoyle Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:56 AM
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47. His campaign manager mentions that...
The part he wrote mentions nothing of any work experience. You'd think he'd mention that. And no further details are provided relative to his work history/experience other than the industry he is currently in. One throwaway line on his entire website about his work and work history.

I mean, come on.

Gdoyle
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GDoyle Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:59 AM
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49. and why.....????
It mentions a degree he holds. But it DOES NOT SAY WHERE FROM? WHAT COLLEGES? WHAT YEARS?

Isn't that basic resume info for someone who wants to serve in Congress? How can we verify his job, education, qualifications etc. if he just makes blanket assertions with no details to be checked?

No college or school names. No employer names. No specific job titles. Just a vague "industry" That is pure bullshit.

What specifically makes this guy credible? Is there anything anyone can point to?

GDoyle
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Copperred Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:53 AM
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45. He ain't my lawyer........

AGREED FISHER IS NOT THE LEAD ON THIS..... HE SHOULD NOT BE REPRESENTING ANYONE BUT HIMSELF IMO
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:56 AM
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46. but the guy sounds very persistent
Edited on Wed Nov-17-04 12:57 AM by RagingInMiami
which might force the feds of the mainstream media to look into it.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:57 AM
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48. Read his letter of complaint - it was posted here a few days ago
It doesn't make sense.
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Ronbrynaert Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:00 AM
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51. Learn to Google
Jeff Fisher is a former accountant from Wellington.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/photos/k...

But he might still be a kook.
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GDoyle Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:03 AM
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52. Well fine...
But he didn't put it on his own website, that was my point. I find that a bit odd.

GDoyle
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Ronbrynaert Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:28 AM
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55. Sorry
I shouldn't have been mean about it.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:59 AM
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50. First post on this subject
I've been avoiding it like the plague.

I'll only jump in here to say that my bullshit buzzer is buzzing.

I don't trust this guy at all.
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badc0der Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:09 AM
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53. Too much tin-foil
In the 40 minutes or so before I got booted I heard him talking about the Bay Point school, how bad Diebold's source and CEO are, and how he is talking to Nader...
But not one mention of the hard physical evidence that the BBV crew pulled today. IMO someone who leads the with conspiracy theories that, as yet, have no hard public evidence and neglects the mounting factual evidence of fraud should not be taking the lead on this.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 06:23 PM
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56. Hi badc0der!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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TexanDem Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:26 AM
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54. Olbermann mentions Fisher in his blog today.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240 /

I got in at the end of the program, but the radio host said he would archive tonight's program and would write up an article about it probably in the morning. You might want to get on the radio's mailing list.

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 06:23 PM
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57. Hi TexanDem!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 06:38 PM
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58. Exerpt from KO's blog re: Fisher
The purported linking of failed Florida congressional candidate Jeff Fisher and Ralph Nader, trumpeted on Fishers website, is news to Naders spokesman Kevin Zeese.

Thats particularly troublesome for Mr. Fisher because it is to Zeese that the connection is attributed:

Kevin Zeese, the Fisher site reads, officially announced that Presidential Candidate Ralph Nader will be consulting with Jeff Fisher and Jan Schneider regarding the investigation of voter fraud and a statewide recount for the state of Florida.

When the nose-to-the-grindstone Countdown staff (as opposed to me, vacation boy) contacted Zeese, he said it was the first hed heard of any official announcement. Zeese acknowledges hed spoken to Fisher, and surmises, correctly I think, that Fisher (he lost in the Florida 16th) and Schneider (she lost in the 13th, to Katherine Harris) were trying to increase their credibility by tying their efforts to the Nader campaign. Given the pounding Naders gotten for four years, Zeese laughed out loud at the irony.

Fisher has been cited in many places as claiming he has firm evidence of deliberate computer-hacking in the Florida vote, and was awaiting FBI agents with whom he was to share it. Not to dismiss him or his claims, but the shows contact with him was not encouraging. He spoke vaguely of sources and whispered a lot.

Hell, Deep Throat from Watergate whispered a lot.

Then again, so does the guy who wanders around Columbus Circle claiming the government caused the Red Sox to win the World Series.

Well reserve judgment on Mr. Fishers claims and keep them out of this space until and unless they have stronger legs. But the consulting role with Nader isnt the case, and bodes ill for Fishers other assertions.

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I don't think I would put too much stock in Mr. Fisher. I hope he doesn't end up hurting the cause.

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