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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 05:19 PM Original message |
Election Fraud Tip; The Doomsday Device for Democracy -- A How To |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. Thank you, Land Shark! I have to sit with this for a while to make sure |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 05:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. you're welcome. That's really the best, honored to have your thoughts! |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 10:55 AM Response to Reply #2 |
62. Franken is refering to the Hout study of Florida and Ohio |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 07:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. I burned a sauce over Landshark's post. DU is dangerous at dinnertime! |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 08:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I'm sorry, I'll have to make you some sauce to replace |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Sorry, I'm a vegetarian. My sauce had my first crop of fresh basil |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 09:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Even better, there's probably some DUers that can finish the other sauce |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
3. REC. "I am autorank and I endorse this message..stronly." More later. |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 08:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
112. I'm with Autorank! I totally endorse this message! |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 03:28 AM Response to Reply #112 |
130. Finally, for once I'm in good company;) |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
4. You so rock Landshark! rec'd. |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
5. Computers count the votes so no one can see, they claim **** won |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 11:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
35. The only way we can prove it, is to have several independent |
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Ellipsis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 02:05 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. My little understanding on the hash table thing is |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 08:15 AM Response to Reply #35 |
59. That would be nice |
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reprehensor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
6. "Election Theft Denial" |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
7. Does he mean the MIT Professors funded by right-wing thinktanks? |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 06:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Nick & Land Shark are a TAG TEAM |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 08:02 AM Response to Reply #8 |
57. Thanks. Isn't it amazing what one can find with a little digging? |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 06:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. There's more. Rebecca Mercuri rebuts MIT/CalTech voting systems analysis: |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 08:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
60. Also: CalTech/MIT VTP Anonymous report REFUTED by CalTech Dean |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
10. Brilliant. Proud to know you man. K & R nt for now |
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AtLiberty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
11. I heard the interview on AAR by Al Franken... |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
12. One of the best threads I ever read - |
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understandinglife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
13. "Beware those who would deny you information. For in their heart, they ... |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 09:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Thanks UL that would be great. I don't have any rolodex of blog contacts |
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understandinglife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 09:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. If you re-write it, as you indicate ... |
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Sinti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
15. Excellent Post! |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 08:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Thanks Sinti! And Welcome to DU !!!! |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
17. This is why conspiracy and coincidence theorists alike should agree: |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
19. Runaway Train is exactly right, but I would make the allegory a lot... |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-16-06 11:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
174. Good story! This should be animated or done in comic strip form. |
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Stevepol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
20. K&R. I heard the AAR interview too. Somebody needs to confront Al |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 09:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. I'll clean up a couple typos and send it via express mail to Franken |
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Votergater (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
25. Other than a whistleblowing vendor CEO or programmer |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 09:28 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Well, now that is the $3.8 billion question. HAVA 'nother good one? |
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Votergater (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 09:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Exactly the problem. |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 09:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Well, in the Ukraine they used exit polls, as does most of the civilized |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 12:47 AM Response to Reply #25 |
121. Darn goog question! A really good audit procedure is about the only |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 05:23 AM Response to Reply #121 |
132. At least an audit procedure will... |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 02:01 PM Response to Reply #132 |
143. maybe instead of jumping thru all these hoops, we should just get rid |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #143 |
144. OR and VT use OpScan. |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 03:03 PM Response to Reply #144 |
147. Oh gawd, more luddite "blame the machines" garbage. |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #147 |
148. And your suggestion is...? |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 03:44 PM Response to Reply #148 |
150. Simple: |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 08:02 PM Response to Reply #144 |
154. Yes, OR uses opscans to count the ballots. AND one of the main |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
30. K & R EXCELLENT!!! |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
31. K & R..... |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 03:42 AM Response to Reply #31 |
49. We've Been Doing That. The Press Ignores It. Nobody Notices. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 04:06 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I fully understand, but we got to stop tv/press as determining The Real |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 12:48 AM Response to Reply #50 |
122. So what kinda events, then? |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 07:39 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. I'm not talking just marching.... |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 01:41 PM Response to Reply #54 |
73. That's Why They are Moving Towards a Theocracy. |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 02:28 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Israel...70 C.E. nt |
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rumpel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
32. Great post, yet again. |
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vanboggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
33. Excellent approach to take with the naysayers |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
34. Great post. Government has NEVER been about TRUST. It's about |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-31-06 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
36. Let me guess the comedian that said this |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 12:40 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Franken gets up to the fork in the road and he CAN'T GET PAST IT |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 01:08 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. As Stevepol said up thread |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 02:38 AM Response to Reply #37 |
126. I'm sorry, I don't get |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 02:56 AM Response to Reply #126 |
127. The calculation is that it's safer to do what he does, plus |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
38. Great post! Will have to read again tomorrow when I am not so tired, but |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 01:37 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. and, without transparency, THERE'S NO FEEDBACK MECHANISMS |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
40. Excellent Post. |
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Ellipsis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
42. A couple of things |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 02:18 AM Response to Original message |
44. K&R! |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
45. Underneath every DECEPTION scheme is contempt. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
46. Thank You! |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 02:57 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. You're Welcome, come by and post even more next time ; ) |
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GuvWurld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 03:42 AM Response to Original message |
48. This post is very insightful into meta-framing |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 05:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
99. Youre right about the meta framing. He is so skilled at picking up |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 05:57 AM Response to Original message |
51. Yes, transparency is even more important than accuracy |
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livvy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 06:48 AM Response to Original message |
52. Nice post! K&R. |
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stellanoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
53. great analysis Land Shark & not to derail (no pun intended) |
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Votergater (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
55. There have always been 'backdoors' in America's voting systems |
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acmejack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
56. This is one of the finest threads on DU yet! |
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mom cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
58. Great post Land Shark! the only possible explanation for the |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
61. Here's a link for the controversial CalTech/MIT report re: 2004 election. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
63. Good analysis Land Shark |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
64. I hope MANY eyes see this. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 12:31 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Thank you, troubleinwinter, acmejack, and everyone else that's posted |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
66. Important insights that need to be shared widely. K & R!!! |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
67. How to get the Proof on the other foot? |
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Chi (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
68. Oh Hell Yes!! Very nicely done Land Shark. K&R |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
69. I dont think Franken fits in with all the other AAR hosts Randi, Malloy, |
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freedomfries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. doomsday devices: "glitches," and ... yes, TYPOS! |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 01:33 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. quite true freedomfries, future post may be on pollbook fraud tips |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
72. Thanks LandShark |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
74. Human nature has quite a track record.... |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
75. The possibility of fraud in these machines in astounding |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. yes, manuals from vendors confirm that ballots WILL be lost onpowerdown |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
77. K & R -- facsinating post, nice allegory |
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livvy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
79. Just read through one or two of these sets of directions. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 02:40 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. here is the exact text on what happens on power lost |
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livvy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 02:47 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Just another "innocent" mistake. n/t |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
80. Kicked and recommended and bookmarked.. |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
83. This is superb. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
84. incredible !!!!!!!!!!! this is the best piece i have seen on vote stealing |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 03:30 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. kickin for the truth to power by LS |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
86. Random collection here. I don't understand how Franken |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. a couple quick responses |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. I'm very familiar with that "who the hell are you" situation, lol. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 04:31 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. Madame of grammar, yes, kindly glitch off |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 12:53 AM Response to Reply #88 |
123. She's right, LS! I got hung up the same way on that sentence. :) . |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 01:15 AM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Nobody said she was wrong. Just said "glitch off" is all, To explain |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 11:29 AM Response to Reply #124 |
139. You rendered speechless? I didn' t think that ever happened! :) |
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JudyM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
89. Fear of being discredited or criticized is poison to dem leaders. |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
90. Kicked, recommended and bookmarked |
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greatauntoftriplets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
91. It is nice to see Andy Stephenson's legacy live on.... |
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SOteric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
92. Amazing post, LS. Kicked & Recommended! |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
94. My favorite part of this is your last sentence |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 04:53 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Thanks TFC, my response is as follows |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
95. As with murder, the safest theft looks like perfectly plausible ACCIDENT. |
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Rainscents (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
97. OMG Land Shark, this is great!!! |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
98. Land Shark, you continue to impress me with your ability to cut to the |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
100. Well reasoned and argued. K & R! |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
101. I can't say enough about how grateful I am to Land Shark, Truth is All, |
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fooj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
102. DANGER AHEAD... |
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CornField (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
103. Kicking it and wish I could recommend it too. |
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fooj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
104. California's runaway train... |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 07:49 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. i can't see that there is any problem with internal polling at all, |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
105. nice |
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shenmue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
107. Of course it's a fraud |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 08:00 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. You'll have to prove that. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 08:10 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. It's simple and brilliant. nt |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 11:26 PM Response to Reply #108 |
118. although you CAN talk about evidence of fraud LATER ON |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
109. Yes! If I hear one more person talk about "getting the vote out" |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 08:46 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. 82 votes for greatest, not too shabby...... |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 08:54 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. Thanks for the good post, Land Shark. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 09:57 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. ya know BEN thats a good idea |
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Cookie wookie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 11:24 AM Response to Reply #113 |
137. For anyone wondering "what do we do?" |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-03-06 09:41 PM Response to Reply #137 |
162. Great suggestions, but votetrustusa.org is the correct website |
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Cookie wookie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-03-06 10:00 PM Response to Reply #162 |
163. Thanks for the correction! n/t |
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Melissa G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
114. The real trick of the' how to' steal an election |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
116. WOW, land shark...just WOW!!! |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 11:30 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. First let's go to the local watering hole, i've not had a drink in 3 weeks |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 02:56 AM Response to Reply #119 |
128. Pick me up at 8! |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 02:59 AM Response to Reply #128 |
129. ok, it's a long drive to rural NC from WA, are the crickets singing yet? |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
117. Excellent post. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-01-06 11:32 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. Is she on TV? (we don't have tv); Looks like a good investigator tho |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 02:22 AM Response to Reply #120 |
125. She's a fictional TV detective from the BBC |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 10:35 AM Response to Reply #117 |
134. i'm a huge fan of that series as well! |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 04:20 AM Response to Original message |
131. Excellent post, Land Shark.. |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
133. About those innocent “glitches” -- Doesn’t it help the case |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 11:25 AM Response to Reply #133 |
138. Well, no it doesn't help "the case" in the Original Post above |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 12:16 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. Let's face it, LS. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 01:27 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. Oh, I'm facing that, head-on. The question is whether we can face |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 02:38 PM Response to Reply #141 |
146. I take it you're suggesting it stressful to admonish partisanship. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #146 |
149. For democracy there is no truth, it's only a process |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 03:56 PM Response to Reply #149 |
151. Then perhaps it's semantics. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 08:14 PM Response to Reply #151 |
155. truth is indispensable, but |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 10:11 PM Response to Reply #155 |
157. I am evaluating whether I'm succeeding or failing in this regard |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 10:20 PM Response to Reply #157 |
158. Believe US "IS" the only democracy? Won't stay that way UNdefended |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 08:47 PM Response to Reply #141 |
156. Which is exactly why I started this thread. If we frame it as a partisan |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-03-06 07:36 AM Response to Reply #138 |
160. I dunno. That’s a pretty idealized world you’re envisioning, Land Shark. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-03-06 08:51 AM Response to Reply #160 |
161. it's an appeal to pragmatism and democracy, with best chance success |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-05-06 09:11 PM Response to Reply #161 |
169. It's the framing thing again. How do you frame it so you bring the most |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
135. don't forget that these 'glitches', when added to |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
136. Outstanding post! |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
142. We need to make vote fraud a death penalty offense.... |
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Wrinkle_In_Time (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
145. Excellent! K&R. One other idea for "Doomsday riggers"... |
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Crazy Guggenheim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
152. Wonderful! Sorry I couldn't Rec. since it's over 24 hrs. As an IT person |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
153. Wooooodamn whooo Landshark! Too late to recommend damn it! |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-02-06 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
159. I agree . |
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Lostnote06 (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-04-06 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
164. "Equal Amendment Clause"......throw it back in their faces |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-04-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #164 |
165. Not sure what you mean, can you explain? eom |
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Lostnote06 (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-04-06 09:07 PM Response to Reply #165 |
166. I'm Not Sure As Well...lol |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-05-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #166 |
167. Makes sense, that's another way of saying there's no basis for confidence |
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Lostnote06 (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-05-06 06:04 PM Response to Reply #167 |
168. and w/o a Title Of British Nobility in front of my name..lol |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-06-06 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
170. Hear the now infamous radio interview here::::> |
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emlev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-08-06 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
171. Thoughts on the whole "can't prove it, nyah, nyah" attitude |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-08-06 08:50 PM Response to Reply #171 |
172. Hmm, not sure they are quite that strong and efficient |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-16-06 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
173. When Blackwell tried to ban exit pollsters in election morning.... |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-17-06 06:35 AM Response to Reply #173 |
175. problems with this |
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