Did NSA help Bush hack the vote?

[IndyOp]

Did the NSA help Bush hack the vote?
Bob Fitrakis / The Free Press

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The Bush administration's utter contempt for the U.S. Constitution and the specific information we now know about its use of the National Security Agency (NSA) surveillance network should further call into question Bush 2004 'presidential election'. In a recent revelation, we have learned that the NSA shared the fruits of its illegal spying on behalf of Bush with other government agencies.

What are e-voting machines and central tabulators that pass the voting results over electronic networks from the internet to phone lines? No more than data easily spied on and tapped into. The Franklin County Board of Elections, for example, tells us that it was a 'transmission error' in Gahanna Ward 1B, where 638 people cast votes and Bush, the Wonder Boy, received 4258 votes. It's not magic, nor is it an accident or an act of God. If the vote total wasn't so hugely illogical, no one would have caught it.

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Would a president who believes he has spy powers, the right to torture, the ability to wage illegal wars based on bogus, manufactured intelligence reports, simply refuse to spy on Kerry and rig an election electronically? In Ohio, two burglaries occurred against the Democratic Party in Lucas County and Franklin County just prior to 2004 election involving computer theft.

Congress must investigate whether Bush used the NSA for partisan political gain during the 2004 election, and whether any NSA Bush operatives or other members of the security industrial complex had access to e-voting machines, central tabulators or the communication lines that delivered the voting results.

[NanceGreggs]

1. Oh, it's a tangled web they wove ...

... when first they deigned to follow Rove."

I think you're on to something ...

[IndyOp]

3. Mark Crispin Miller is tracking Abramoff money used for stealing elections

...now onto election theft and wiretapping.

Quite a web indeed... :grr:

[EFerrari]

15. Oh god. This is so much worse than even I thought. n/t

[NVMojo]

2. I have no trouble believing this ...

[Sadie5]

4. We always knew they were guilty of election theft

now we might have the proof we need. Throw in the spying and thats icing on the cake.

[FogerRox]

5. It may be that Having a few phone numbers would allow a small group of

Rovians- to hack the vote quite easliy, I'm not so sure they NEED the NSA to do this.

The NSA spying on Kerry would have allowed them to work with much more confidence, for sure.

[IndyOp]

7. Not sure they *need* NSA either - but damned handy, I would think.

Wouldn't you just LOVE to know what they had going on at Warren County, Ohio during "Election 2004" -- remember how the 'Homeland Security Alert' resulted in a lockdown?

:shrug:

[FogerRox]

8. Yes- handy indeed-- LOL

[kster]

6. K&R...nt

[f-bush]

9. I'd bet the house on it!!!

and if it gets proved, I'd bet both houses on it!!!

[nicknameless]

10. And:

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The recent revelations about hacking of Diebold voting machines and the findings of the General Accountability Office as to the insecurity of the e-voting networks cannot be separated from the president’s criminal use of the NSA to spy on American citizens. As much as we rejoice in the resignation of Diebold CEO Walden O’Dell and the pending lawsuits by shareholders against Diebold, it should not obscure the massive continued potential to hack the vote.

Both Popular Science and Popular Mechanics magazines ran November 2004 cover stories on how easy it is to hack the e-voting machines and their communication networks. In one famous cartoon, a teenage hacker was announced as the president.

This is precisely the type of game George W. and his He-man authoritarian boy’s club would engage in. Recently, Professor Steve Freeman of Penn spoke at a New York election reform forum and told the audience that a third of the Kerry voters who showed up in exit polls in rural Republican-dominated areas simply don’t show up in the actual vote tally. Not just in Ohio, but throughout the nation.

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Nominated

[OnTheOtherHand]

11. I doubt Freeman said that -- it isn't right

The exit poll discrepancies were actually lower on average in rural areas. (No stats have been made public on "rural Republican-dominated areas," whatever exactly those are.)

What Freeman probably said was that the average exit poll discrepancy in the precincts that were over 80% Bush was 10 points -- and so if you assume that Kerry officially got 10% of the vote in those precincts, you can estimate that he should have gotten 15% of the vote (a 10-point difference in margin), and so one third of his voters disappeared.

Freeman should not be saying that, either, because the average (official) Kerry vote in those precincts clearly is over 10%. Also, there are only 40 of them, and overall they don't really look a lot different than the rest of the sample. Four precincts with high discrepancies bump up the the average (mean) discrepancy -- the median is not very high. People can argue about what those four precincts mean, but they can't support inferences about "rural Republican-dominated areas... throughout the nation."

(EDIT -- omitted a word)

[Einsteinia]

12. Is Conyers on this?

n/t

[IndyOp]

16. I have no idea if Conyers has been aware/alerted to the possibility. (nt)

[Stevepol]

13. Kick!!

[kster]

14. kick.nt

[Einsteinia]

17. About pressuring Congress, has anyone

put together a petition in that regard. That guy at The Pen has been great. I'm swamped, but I would distribute a petition if someone got one together. My New Year's resolution is that for every revelation, we must have a bit sized action to start chipping away..