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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:43 PM
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Bushco stopped stealing votes after they had it in the bag.
Edited on Sat Jul-30-05 09:33 PM by TruthIsAll
Need more proof?
They had enough cookies.
So they took their bloody hands out of the jar and ran for cover.

Final 2-party Vote:
Bush 62,028,194 51.24%
Kerry 59,027,612 48.76%

Total 2-party Vote at 2am Nov. 3:
Bush 60,693,281 51.41%
Kerry 57,355,978 48.59%


Kerry won 55.60% of the final 3,006,547 2-party votes:
Kerry 1,671,634
Bush 1,334,913

That's 55.60% vs. the prior 48.59%. But Kerry won just 50.78% of the 2-party total votes in the West.

Can we assume the final votes came in equally distributed among the western states? Or must we assume, as the naysayers will surely claim, that they all came from CA?

I guess they stopped stealing votes after they had it in the bag.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:47 PM
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1. I have never doubted that they stole the election, scum all of them
:kick:
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:49 PM
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2. or the final votes where from the blue west coast states
Not that I don't think the machines were rigged.
Hell, I think they even have the machines in the House and Senate rigged now.
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 09:12 PM
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8. Kerry won just 50.78% of the votes in the West
Edited on Sat Jul-30-05 09:23 PM by TruthIsAll
So much for the Blue state argument.

    Bush	Pct	 Kerry	Pct
Wa 1304    46.35%	1510	53.65%
Ca 5509    44.96%	6745	55.04%
Or 866     47.89%	943	52.11%
Az 1104     55.28%	893	44.72%
Nv 418	      51.32%	397	48.68%
Ak 190	      63.23%	111	36.77%
Hi 194	      45.60%	231	54.40%
NM 376	      50.40%	370	49.60%
Wy 167	      70.31%	70	29.69%
Co 1101    52.37%	1001	47.63%
Ut 663	      73.35%	241	26.65%
Id 409	      69.32%	181	30.68%

Tot 12308	49.22%	12698 50.78%

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:49 PM
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3. TIA
Edited on Sat Jul-30-05 08:50 PM by Botany
Thanks!

I watched the vote come in on "secure"* computer lines in Cols., OH on 11/2
and 11/3 with the Kerry campaign about 11:00 PM it was like you flicked
a switch ...... the vote was coming in 70, 80, even 90% bush nationwide
no matter what state no matter what area .......

* our phone and and computer lines had been hacked so many times ....
I do not know what is true.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:50 PM
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4. And my lame assed Senator in a deep blue state. . .
when asked about the voting machines last summer said, "Well I'm sure that the people at Diebold will do the right thing now that they've been put on watch."

Yeah. . .right for who???

Yikes.

How can something be so blatantly wrong and lie totally under the radar of many. Drives me nuts.

Thanks again TIA.

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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 09:13 PM
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9. Sounds Like We're From the Same Blue State, stellanoir!
Nice, cutzi letters saying "blab, blab, blab..." locally all for BIG corporations, big corporate law firms w/huge group-ties throughout the state and not all are Repuks, either.

They fought (here) for paper-trail ballots. Repuk Gov. said no because it was not what the people wanted. Awww... he forgot to ask me and everyone else I know.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:52 PM
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5. It takes California a long time to count all their votes
New York too. I think that's a big explanation for that phenomenon, as well as the Democratic leanings of provisional ballots.
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 09:38 PM
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10. Republican vote-counting is a bigger explanation for the discrepancy.
Edited on Sat Jul-30-05 09:44 PM by TruthIsAll
Want to figure the odds in going from 48.59% in 118 mm votes to 55.60% in the next three million?

That's a 7% difference.
The MoE for 118 million votes is 0.0092%

Kerry went from 48.59% to 48.76%.
That 0.17% gain is almost 18.5 times the MoE.

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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:56 PM
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6. nomination #3 for TIA!
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:57 PM
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7.  Harper's Magazine August issue


Excellent article by Mark Crispin Miller


' None Dare Call It Stolen - Ohio, The Election, and America's Servile Press '

made my blood boil.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:58 AM
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11. That could've been it
This election was a very heated one. The 4pm exit polls had Kerry winning big time so they had to make it look believable. I could see that for sure. Also if you haven't visit pbs.org and watch their documentary on Karl Rove called "The Architect" and the first segment on the 2004 election.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 06:15 AM
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12. In addition to Clint Curtis
Why isn't there anyone else stepping forward to testify how the Bush administration flicked the switch to swing the election from Kerry to Bush? Obviously, something happened around 11 pm on election night, yet not one person has uttered a peep. Not to my knowldege anyway.

TIA - Thanks for all your research!
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jarnocan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:33 AM
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13. petition REALITY matters or it should...
of course they would just say - dems are lazy so they tend to vote later. We need the networks (and dem leaders), to tell the truth- here is a petition -you can comment, sort of relates. Reality is on our side! <http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/186574788 >
"We the undersigned, endorse the following petition:
Tell Network Execs to Get Real!
Target: Les Moonves CBS; Dawn Ostroff UPN; Jeff Zucker NBC; David Janollari WB; Peter Liguori FOX; Lloyd Braun ABC"

my comment-
The election fraud story is multifaceted, fascinating and very REAL. see <http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2005/13... >
also the life and death of voter's rights advocate Andy Stephenson is an American tragedy that relates, and also illustrates our flawed $$$$ 1st. health care system as well. There are many other interesing characters involved as well. http://Vvlobbydays.blogspot.com for more links, info and pics.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:49 PM
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14. They wouldn't do THAT
"What, are you crazy? You've lost all credibility with me."

So saith a good dem, a dem I think was Jewish. Sitting here now, pondering that reaction to our case, I see a little clearer just how Hitler #1 rose to power.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:53 PM
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15. TIA, would you please consider discussing how this ties in
with your East was the Beast findings?

Thanks, as ever.

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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:58 PM
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16. The beast devoured it's prey in the east; after gorging itself...
it laid down to rest in the west..
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 03:45 PM
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17. kick.nt
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 08:13 PM
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18. kick - In tribute to his tremendous contributions - WHY??? :( n/t
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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 08:33 PM
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19. KICK
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:39 PM
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20. Kicking for truth, justice, and TIA's invaluable work.
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:35 AM
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21. TIA
kick again! n/t
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 08:09 AM
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22. kick nt
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