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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:28 PM
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"Where to start?" Here's where...

Why don't you do your own thread on election fraud, make your case, provide examples and not mention a single thing about the NEP' and SEP's. Seriously, I have no idea what your position is. Do this and I'll come on over and kick/recommend it if you position is pro-Democrat and absent the attacks on TIA.

Maybe I missed something but all I see you do here, since the first time I ran into you, is trash the NEP analysis and hector TIA. Do something productive and you won't look like a Republican enabler (didn't say you were a Republican, just that your position was consistent with support for them by deflecting legitimate challenges to the elections; something you do with passion on TIA threads).
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mgr Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 11:54 AM
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1. My position has been there in front of you for quite a while
The problem is that many cannot follow my reasoning or accept my point of view. The fact that it accords with the DNC findings gives me some sense of vindication.

What is good work on this site, I have promoted; what is bad I critique and challenge. I don't chime in with 'kick'. The projects I am in or helping with have not come to fruition yet; and it is not my place to announce ahead of time what I am doing. With the necessary QA/QC it will come. There is a reason my icon is the mule--I do the heavy tedious work needed that no one else can or will do; and I do not need or want the credit.

My one failure so far is prodding any of you to a closer evaluation of what your assumptions are, and why they may not follow from reasoning but by emotions. I think Bush was unlawfully elected, but need to sift through all the arguments and evidence before I conclude that he was unlawfully elected. You have concluded that he was unlawfully elected, there are a lot of hidden assumptions and inconsistent positions in that leap of faith; and, it also leaves you vulnerable to any charletan's speculation, and hurts all of us when you take it as fact. Just because you believe you are right does not make you right--you really should read that William Carlos Williams poem--The Crowd At the Ballgame (http://eir.library.utoronto.ca/rpo/display/poem2310.htm... ). and see if you can figure out why I think it relates to this overall discussion.

Mike
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