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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 01:41 AM
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Discrepancies found in 35 percent of Miami-Dade precincts
Jessica M. Walker
Daily Business Review 06 May 2005

In the latest South Florida election mishap, workers in 35 percent of Miami-Dade County's 749 polling places last November filed counts of voter signatures that differed from the number of ballots cast on the touch-screen voting machines, a new analysis has found.

On Nov. 2, election workers in 260 polling places submitted data to the Miami-Dade Supervisor of Elections office that did not match up with the total number of touch-screen ballots reported by the canvassing board, according to a study conducted by the Miami-Dade Election Reform Coalition, a nonpartisan watchdog group.

Out of those 260 polling places, 23 submitted totals that were off by more than 50 voters, while 68 submitted totals that were off by more than 10 voters. In one polling place, the difference was 1,284. That polling place was one of five that showed very large discrepancies. The coalition is studying those five for possible clerical errors.

full article:

http://www.votersunite.org/article.asp?id=5354
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 01:45 AM
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1. Clerical errors. I bet.
Edited on Sat May-07-05 01:45 AM by Carolab
/sarcasm
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 01:52 AM
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2. 1,284 discrepancy in one precinct ?!?!?!?!?
Why do I feel like guessing that the discrepancy was more votes than voters (not less)?

Could it be someone we have seen before....

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 01:56 AM
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4. Discrepancies up to 34 PERCENT?
"Not including those five polling places, the percentage difference between the reported signature totals and the machine ballot counts varied from less than 1 percent to 34 percent. The differences included polling places where there were more reported signatures than ballots cast, and others where ballots cast exceeded reported signatures.

A Daily Business Review inspection of voter logs showed that in some polling places where there were discrepancies, the totals reported by election workers equaled the total number of voters in the precinct, including absentee and early voters. But the county reporting form for signature totals, Certificate No. 2, asks workers to fill in the total of polling place signatures only, not the total of absentee voters."

LOTS of PE votes.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 01:54 AM
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3. That was an amazing read.
Is this the first we're hearing about this problem?
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 02:08 AM
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6. as far as I know
it is new information

it makes me think of Avi Ruben's famous line, where he says that a 15 year old kid with a basic knowledge of computers could manufacture 'smart cards' that enable multiple voting.

they were probably handing out these "smart cards" at various "functions" before the election.

Or maybe it was the work of



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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 02:25 AM
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7. P of the E is perfectly creepy.
Or smart cards that dump votes. Or smart cards that dump their brains and become, well, dumb cards.

This kind of story makes me suspect:

a. Fraud



b. Machine Malfunction


c. Inadequately trained officials/poll workers



Item c, especially.

Among the "thousands of cuts" are these, too.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 01:59 AM
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5. Is this woman NUTS?
Miami-Dade County Commissioner Katy Sorenson, who served on the canvassing board in the 2004 elections, declined to comment on the discrepancies, saying she was not familiar with the coalition's study. "Things can happen where people decide not to vote, they can sign in and leave, so I don't really know if that's a problem," she said.

WHO would have bothered to come to vote, stand in line, sign in, etc. and then just LEAVE?

That's gotta be a VERY small number.

What a total SHILL.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 02:26 AM
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8. Don't underestimate the power of ignorance. n/t
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rightfoot Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 03:26 PM
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9. This is a great article.
Im looking for exactly this kind of stuff. Thanks.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 08:42 PM
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10. Wonder if Connie Kaplan was aware of this before she resigned?
AND we in Miami thought it was because of the "inconsistencies" in our little casino election on March where there were 900 "undervotes". In other words, over 900 people got into their cars, waited in traffic, got into line and when given one question and answering either yes or no, they decided not to vote.
My guess is our Ms. Connie had a pretty good idea that this was eventually going to come out into the open.

Those of us who have been involved in election rigging activism since 2002 are not the least bit surprised and know that while this is an excellent article, it only skims the surface of what really went on in Florida and around the country.
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adolfo Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 01:11 PM
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11. Miami-Dade Precinct Results
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 04:47 PM
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12. If there are signatures and no votes that's happened in Balt.
I told you that my precinct was jammed pack all day, I had to wait
2 hours to vote, yet the machine says that only 944 people voted there the entire day. Well, we all know that anyone who waits to vote for 2 hours will then sign the book and leave.
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