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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 10:34 PM
Original message
14 house, senate races won by computer fraud in 2002, and more...
Edited on Wed Apr-20-05 10:39 PM by Amaryllis
"FACT: In the 2002 midterm election, there were fourteen House and Senate races across the U.S. where Democratic candidates were leading in the last pre-election polls by margins of 4 to 10 points. The votes in all those races were counted on either ES&S or Diebold optical scan or touchscreen systems. In all fourteen races the Republican candidate won by 3-7 percentage points. Republican control of the House and Senate were decided by these races. In the case of Senator Max Cleland of Georgia who was defeated by Saxy Chambliss, it took a sixteen point swing."

Good article; much we already know but I learned some new things. Well worth reading.

Computers Threw the Vote to Bush
by G Mustain

Dear Bart,

In my original e-mail I asked a favor to which you graciously ssented. The favor I asked was that you allow me the opportunity to make a written argument to you that: 1. Kerry won this election and it was stolen from the American people; and 2. that computerized vote recording and counting is the single most important issue in the survival of American democracy.

The argument is below. It has been reduced from an original draft that ran 32 pages. Before proceeding to the argument, however, there are two preliminary matters to be dealt with.

The first of these is to answer the question: Why am I making this argument to you? You are an opinion leader of growing influence on the web, and an important part of the new alternative media which is our last best hope of preserving this nation as a functioning democracy. You have a growing audience of readers and listeners who tend towards activism and who are, like most on the left now, groping for a handle on what to do next, and how to explain the election results. You are one of the leaders to whom they are looking to tell them what to do next. It is my hope that, after reading my argument, you will lead
them to focus on the right target. It is no longer about getting rid of Bush. It is about defending against an all-out assault on our right as a people to chart our own destiny and our ability to oust those leaders who fail us.

Second, Ive learned over the years that an argument without a frame is an inherently unstable structure vulnerable to all sorts of rhetorical undermining. So I would like to preface the argument with the frame.

I am NOT attempting to PROVE my dual premise in a court of law. It will take the resources of a state attorney general or more to uncover much of the actual physical evidence which I am convinced exists. My preference would be that you read my argument from the viewpoint of a member of a Grand Jury being presented with a summary set of facts. You are being asked to decide whether or not they indicate enough of a possibility of wrong doing to warrant issuing an indictment and conducting a full and thorough official and public investigation. It seems to me that if you find my argument for the first premise convincing enough to vote for an indictment, the truth of the second premise follows automatically.

Much more
http://www.bartcop.com/110904votes.htm
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R. A. Fuqua Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 10:43 PM
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1. this should be
required reading! nominated.
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 03:24 PM
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59. HERE IS A 2002 PROBABILITY ANALYSIS ON JUST THIS.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 10:51 PM
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2. Excellent - recommended!
May they all fry in rancid oil.
:grr:
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 10:54 PM
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3. Additional more direct support for his case
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 10:56 PM
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5. where is the list of the races swung in 2002?
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:19 PM
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6. Don't know. I know Hagel and Chambliss, and I think Norm Coleman
Edited on Wed Apr-20-05 11:23 PM by Amaryllis
but don't know the others. Undoubtably Katherine Harris. Anyone else know? You could probably take a look at legislators who seem to be oblivious to their constituents who are from states with paperless DREs and figure it out that way.
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:23 PM
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7. don't think Harris was one of them; close but Scneider not ahead in poll
Edited on Wed Apr-20-05 11:24 PM by berniew1
One was Missouri Senate race

Barnes(Ga. Gov) was one ousted by fraud apparently,
far ahead in polls
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:34 PM
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10. Also Alabama governor, and Jeb.
Edited on Wed Apr-20-05 11:35 PM by Amaryllis
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 12:01 AM
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35. Definitely COLEMAN.
Mondale was leading by 6 points...everyone was turning out after Wellstone died...

why not ask our REPUBLICAN secretary of state Mary Kiffmeyer? Her idol is Katherine Harris, by her own admission.

We use optiscan ballots here, by the way.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 02:12 PM
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52. Asked you this before, but still not clear. How did they rig it for Norm,
in your opionion; do you have central tabulators? Do you think that's where they did it?
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:33 PM
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9. Here's more:
* As many as 7 U.S. Senate races also had suspicious outcomes in 2004. "In close Senate races, changes between the exit poll results and the final tallies cost Democrats anticipated seats in Kentucky (a 13% swing to the GOP), Alaska (9%), North Carolina (9%), Florida, Oklahoma, South Dakota and possibly Pennsylvania -- as well as enough House seats to retake control of the chamber."

1516" target="_blank">http://valleyadvocate.com/gbase/News/content?oid=oid :91...
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:33 AM
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13. DU Link Repair




Did Bush Get Lucky? Or Were the Odds Stacked in His Favor?

Presidential candidate John Kerry conceded Nov. 3, and the mainstream media declared election fraud a non-story. But some sources too authoritative to ignore say the results of the vote are suspect.

by Alan Waldman - November 25, 2004


http://tinyurl.com/8guxa
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:33 PM
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20. Thanks, Wilms. What is it with DU links?
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:52 PM
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22. Seriously! What is with that!
I've seen that happen before, where the url get's mangled and an icon placed in the middle of the mess sticks it's tongue out.

:grr: :)
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Chi Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:17 PM
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23. looks like :9 brings up that smiley
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 06:19 PM by Chi
I would think it should need a space on either side to do that.
To common in web addy's.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:56 PM
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26. OMG! a BUG built into the source code of DU programs!
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 10:55 PM
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4. Thanks for the important post , Amaryllis! n/t
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:32 PM
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8. This happened in other states too.
South Carolina primaries also and elsewhere right? The state results are all posted online and in every case the other party won.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:45 PM
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11. Never seen it laid out so clearly...
this is good.
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alpaca Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:50 PM
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12. Wow
Incredible stuff, keep it coming!
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 01:06 AM
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14. Double Wow.
Thank you Amaryllis... Twas a refreshing, concise, well laid out read.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:18 AM
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15. Good for you, Amaryllis. 2002 is a decent question to ask. n/t
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Chomp Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 07:16 AM
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16. Fair enough...
...definitely some interesting stuff, but several of this chap's "facts" are actually opinions and/or circumstantial theories.

I only say this as it seems to me that if you were to present this to the non-believers as part of your fraud argument, phrases like "the Bush crime family" will hardly be persuasive.

Think of Biden at the hearing on Bolton yesterday: by sheer weight of real facts and hard evidence (corroborated testimony, patterns of provable behaviour, examples of undiplomatic behaviour) he eventually bludgeoned the enemy into submission: they couldn't hide from the overwhelming, unvarnished truth. Biden boxed clever.

If he'd started talking about "the Bush crime family", Bolton would already be on his way to New York.
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Chi Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:04 AM
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17. Thats a quote of Mike Malloy...
"FACT: (Quoted from Air America Radios Mike Malloy in his November 3, 2004 program): "The American vote count is controlled
by three major corporate players, Diebold, ESS, Sequoia, and a fourth, SAIC, Science Applications International. All four are
hard-wired into the Bush power structure, the Bush crime family..."

But your welcome to pick something else you don't like.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:41 PM
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21. Agree; I don't ever use inflamatory terms unless I'm talking to us. I
really like the way Chuck Herrin frames the issue; very non-partisan and I don't think we can afford to alienate potential allies by using inflamatory language.
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:04 AM
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18. Probability Repubs stole the senate, based on final poll deviations
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 07:07 PM
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24. Pretty amazing...
And due to voter fraud no doubt!!! Say these whackos who run our elections.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 07:42 PM
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25. Was the House win in TX Delay, by chance? I would be so surprised. :)
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:06 PM
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27. Nah its showing TRMPAC...
paid to get Tommy Delay elected using rigged voting and total postal system manipulation.

Tom Delay should have a postcard sent at his resignation party that has this on it:

"In god we trust: Elected by Fraud"
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:37 PM
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30. Postal system manipulation? And, my question was if Tommy was
elected thru e-voting fraud, and seems you are verifying that? Would certainly explain why he is SO responsive to his constituents, and SO concerned about the ethics charges against him, wouldn't it? That's the scariest part, is they can do whatever they please when they know they don't have to answer to constituents any longer since they can keep getting themselves re-elected no matter what.
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:45 AM
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37. Check below my link about him.
Voinovich and several others were elected the same way, if only one of them would defect we could nail a written testimony.

http://www.cronos.com
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 10:26 AM
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39. That is all we need; one of them to defect...that could upset the whole
house of cards.
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 06:01 PM
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42. Can't say for sure, but Voinovich is a prime target.......
He's getting harassed by the freepers now intent on crucifying him as a sacrafice to the dominionists, just check this four part staged campaign.

http://www.moveamericaforward.com

If someone got say, a collection of 10,000 letters or so and flooded Voinovich's office.....calling for his testimony, he might blow the whistle on the Diebold election scheme that got him and Faircloth elected.

Faircloth ran against John Edwards, and was set to win except the CNP board of thugs decided against it...Faircloth lost the seat to Edwards.

They all have been in this game, where a religious leader claimed "only christians should be allowed to vote" and other strange statements that were uttered more than 3 years ago.....
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BillyDoc Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 03:42 PM
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19. The MOST important part
G. Mustain has a great article there, but for me it is "preaching to the choir" because I have been convinced that the last three elections were fraud for a long time now. But the most important part of Mustain's article is the warning in his quote from Online Journal (http://onlinejournal.com/evoting/110504Chin/110504chin.... )

The US political and economic system, exemplified by Bush-Cheney, is deeply criminalized. It is designed to profit by killing things.
It thrives on war and oppression. It is sustained by collusion, fraud, lies, and cover-up, and the indoctrination and manipulation of minds.
It does not, and never has, represented its people. Its operatives heed no laws. They "make" law...Criminals do not obey laws.
Criminals do not believe in "democracy." Criminals do not "permit" elections...When you hear people saying, 'take a deep breath,
we will pull through this,' 'we need to work harder,' 'we need to organize'no. We will not. It's over...Unless electronic vote
tabulation is history, and these companies are driven out of business, it's their country. Not ours...The last thing rational people
in this country need right now is this whistling-past-the-graveyard horse hockey. Nothing is going to happen; it's going to get worse.
There will never again be a legitimate election in this county. Until we get rid of the machines...

The message is clear: if we don't get off of our collective asses and start taking control of this situation . . . we are toast. How? You may ask. Check out the ideas here: http://electionfraudbounty.org/Two%20simple%20election%... or maybe this approach will float your boat: http://breakthelink.org but DO SOMETHING POSITIVE AND STOP ALL THE WHINING! Get out and WORK the problem.
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:15 PM
Response to Reply #19
28. And throw the surviving machines into the river...
Along with all the arnold schwartzanagger movies.

:popcorn:
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:39 PM
Response to Reply #19
31. I am spending vast hours each week working on the problem, not
whining. I come here for down time, for a break, to relax from working on reform.
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BillyDoc Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 10:07 AM
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38. My sincere apologies Amaryllis
I guess I'm a little disappointed in the large majority of my fellow Americans and want to give them a sharp "kick in the butt" to wake them up. I have been working this problem very hard lately, and taking a large portion of grief because of it. My problem, not yours.

But, you force me to realize that it's people like you that make the fight worthwhile, and I appreciate the mere fact of your existence more than you can imagine. I am very, very sorry if I irritated you! If it were not for people like you I would be out of this country in a heartbeat and never look back.

Now, if only there were a few more of us . . .
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #38
53. You didn't irritate me, and thanks for the apology anyway. :) Easy
for misunderstandings to occur with these messages.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:24 PM
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29. Great! Lets prove they've been stealing it all along. They're all...
...going down!

Check this out: www.recallthecongress.com

Take action guys!

Recall the Congress!
Dismantle the PNAC!
Impeach Bush and Cheney!
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:11 PM
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32. kick n/t
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karmadude Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:34 PM
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33. how about these races?
I know that davis, cleland, and probably daschle were screwed by these systems, does anyone know about either of these?
Betty Castor had a tight race with Mel Martinez (Cuban American ties)
and Jeanne Shaheen lost to Sununu...and mainly I just dont' trust Sununu...

I'm not a newbie...but I retired my last ID...not much of a loss and more anonymous now

-karma
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. At least one of those rings a bell.
Perhaps add Janet Reno.

Please. Google.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 10:29 AM
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40. Who's in now who ran against Davis? And is Sununu suspect? I only
knew for sure about Castor, Cleland. Hagel for sure and Norm Coleman looks pretty fishy, and just assumed Delay.
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 10:35 PM
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49. Sununu is definately one they think was stolen
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 10:31 AM
Response to Reply #33
41. Anyone have a list of all the most likely, pretty fishy races?
Who won and who they beat?
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:43 AM
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36. Remember the TRMPAC Gubernational race with Tom Delay?
Dig in deep because it was most likely a setup just like Voinovich's election and many other represenatives.....

http://houseofscandal.org

The albatross takes flight.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 06:29 PM
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43. does anyone know who Mr. Mustain is? He also says the source code of ESS
and Diebold tabulating machines are the same.

He is also pointing to the GEMS source code and hidden "fun stuff" found evaluated and released in 2003 Dec. I know Avi Rubin and the Iowa Univ. analyzed this one in 2003.

Does any one know if these in fact remained the same in 2004 Nov?

I tried to get the original information source on this.

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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #43
44. Who was saying this.
I'd like to read it myself.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 06:44 PM
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45. the link above
http://www.bartcop.com/110904votes.htm

I found
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/10/1172/9052

and

http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/voting/dieboldftp.html

that the author must be referring to. But I truly wonder after all the bad publicity if they kept the source code as is. But then again, I would not be surprised on their boldness.
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 06:51 PM
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46. Thanks for that..
It sounds like they kept it the same, and only changed the way passwords work.

For proof just see http://www.blackboxvoting.org hack the newest ones, in about twice the amount of time, on a real election (about 5 minutes)

Yeah not everyone trusts them but their report is correct...so the source code, once divested, will likely look the same.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 06:57 PM
Response to Reply #46
47. I would love for Clint Curtis to take a look at the codes and get his
input. And who was Feeny running against?
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:46 AM
Response to Reply #47
50. Martinez it looks like, twice. n/t
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #45
54. I would especially like verification that the code is the same for Diebold
and ES & S. There is more info out there about Diebold than any of the others. It would make it easier in educating people (particurly election officials, which is what I am currently working with) to be able to say it's the same. I haven't found info on the criminal backgrounds of software designers except for Diebold but if they all use the same stuff, that would take care of it.
Anyone have any more on that?

See this:

ES&S's forerunner, American Information Systems, was founded by Bob and Todd Urosevich. The Urosevich brothers were pioneers in the development of software and hardware used in electronic voting.6 They continue to exercise enormous influence in the industry. Bob Urosevich now serves as President of Diebold Election Systems (see below) and Todd continues to serve as a top executive at ES&S.

from http://www.publicaccountability.org/election.html

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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 07:06 PM
Response to Reply #43
48. It appears Mr. Mustain is Vietnam Vet and now a writer/poet
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:46 AM
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51. Not discounting the article, but if Cleland's internals showed him up 7...
He should've sued the state for election fraud. When it's a one point race Diebold can EASILY turn it the other way. 7 points is a different animal if the candidate is actually willing to do something about it.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #51
55. Governor of GA lost by even more of a swing that Cleland on Diebold
machines in 2002.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:07 PM
Response to Reply #55
57. Barnes should've done an investigation
If the Secretary of State (who is a dem BTW) is using Diebold machines to rig the votes then the Governor should be able to find out.
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 11:11 PM
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56. Does anyone have an official final list of the 14 swings on DREs
that were inconsistent with the exit polls; pre election polls?

I think not? who's going to compile the list?
It would be useful to have a list of the official results vs the
exit poll result and pre election polls.



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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #56
61. No but go here for a good summary
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beammeup Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #56
62. See the 2002 fraud details at Scoop (New Zealand):
In an article entitled
"American Coup: Mid-Term Election Polls vs Actuals"

they compare the results of 19 2002 races to pre-election poll results. Here is their summary:

Scoops analysis shows that - according to the polls - the Republican Party experienced a pronounced last minute swing in its favour of between 4 and 16 points. Remarkably this last minute swing appears to have been concentrated in its effects in critical Senate races (Georgia and Minnesota) where it secured it's complete control of Congress.


http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0211/S00078.htm

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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 03:03 PM
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58. I don't think the swing in the Cleland race was 16 points, more like
12-13 points, but when you get to that level, what difference does it make? It's like saying there's a 95% likelihood the victim's blood matches the type discovered in your car as opposed to a 99.9% likelihood. Either way and there's no jury that would fail to convict.

I'm glad to get that number. I suspected there were a large number of Repubs voted in by fraud. The MN race was the most interesting to me. I thought at the time there's no way Coleman beats Mondale in a fair election. And I suspected several other places as well.

I think 2002 was the year democracy died in the US, courtesy Diebold, ES&S, et al.

God knows what will happen before we get it back, if we ever do.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:37 PM
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60. 12 Cleland, 14 Barnes. Here:
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040816&s=dugger
How they could steal the election this time by Ronnie Dugger
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nightfire Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 09:31 PM
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63. Also worth a look
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 09:33 PM by nightfire
"Tin Foil Hats, the MSM and Election Mischief"

http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_4.1/main.htm


"Swat squads of Republican ?challengers? pestered likely Democrats (the tip-off usually being skin hue) at polling places so as to extend their voting ordeals; citizens were herded into wrong precinct lines in the right buildings, lifelong Democrats were purged from voting lists (mostly for not voting in two previous elections or changing their addresses, which the less affluent do more often). In Ohio?s Warren County furtive officials expelled independent observers from the vote count by claiming, ludicrously, that the FBI warned them of imminent terrorist attack. In short, every demented trick that superannuated frat rat Republican cretins could dream up was dragged slimily out. Why? In a crucial national election, with Democratic registration way up and Independents and undecided voters likely to break for Kerry (as they did), Republicans could win only if they disenfranchise a goodly slice of opponents.<10> All that is at stake, after all, is hundreds of billions of public dollars, all those cool Pentagon playthings, and control of the law enforcement (or law flouting) apparatus of the nation. A quick scan of Conyer?s Committee 102 page report covers many of the insidious gags the Republicans pulled off.<11>

Yet the single most disturbing electoral element in 2004 remains the role of eccentric, to say the least, electronic voting devices recording 30% of the US vote (versus 13 per cent in 2000) and, in addition, tallying 80 per cent of nationwide ballots in central tabulators minded by partisan pro-Bush private firms. The software ?source codes? are, serendipitously, proprietary information. Your electoral system , in case you didn?t know it, is virtually privatized. Why should anyone get excited about such irrelevant details? The MSM were extremely annoyed, and indeed baffled,.by the internet outcry. Republicans ? even when displaying ample motive, means and opportunity (not to mention, sleazy history) ? wouldn?t try to exploit this frightfully advantageous situation, would they?<12> Perish the thought. Get over it. Pop another Prozac..
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WeHoldTheseTruths Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 08:11 AM
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64. Kick!
Excellent report.
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