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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 01:31 PM Original message |
100% ABSOLUTE PROOF: FINAL NEP OVERSTATED BUSH VOTE BY AT LEAST 2 MIL. |
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gWbush is Mabus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. that is not abolute proof |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-05 09:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
57. MAX % OF 2004 VOTERS WHO VOTED FOR BUSH IN 2000 = 41.26% (IF NONE DIED) |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-05 01:28 PM Response to Reply #57 |
73. According to the Final Exit Poll, Bush had 4.5 mm more 2000 votes... |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #57 |
75. Another way of proving the NEP is bogus and Kerry won.... |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. Nader & Buchanan |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Nader and Buchanan have nothing to do with this calculation. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 02:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Ah, I see what you're saying. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
3. Aren't There Some Actual Figures AT |
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Career Prole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
4. "SO HOW IS ANYONE TO BELIEVE?" |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
6. Keep hammering TIA...... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
7. Thanks, TIA. We'll never know who won |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. THE ELECTION WAS NOT A SQUEAKER. KERRY WON EASY by 52-47. |
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DELUSIONAL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
9. Kick |
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intensitymedia (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
11. This is clear enough for anyone to understand - ! n/t Thanks again TIA |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
12. BASED ON THE US. ANNUAL DEATH RATE OF 8.7 PER 1000... |
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LatePeriduct (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 08:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. That's alot of voters. |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 08:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. CONTINUED... |
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LatePeriduct (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-05 05:09 AM Response to Reply #14 |
55. How did it get those numbers |
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intensitymedia (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-05 04:00 AM Response to Reply #12 |
54. GO GO GO TIA!! |
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byronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
15. TIA: educate a newbie I beg of you. |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 09:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Here are some links. |
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byronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Thanks! Holy Cow! I'm gonna have nightmares tonight!! |
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Lizzie Borden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 10:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Welcome to DU byronious! |
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Melissa G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
18. recommended! n/t |
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oxbow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
19. You need to get your data independently verified |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 10:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. No verification is necessary. All the information is readily available. |
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piece sine (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
21. The beatles were right |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 10:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. You mean: Hello, Goodbye |
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piece sine (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-05 02:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
64. Hey-La |
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Colorado Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
24. Awesome post. The math seems logical, it just didn't |
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dzika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
25. Mitofsky has responded to emails in the past |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
26. Thanks for sticking with this TIA! |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
27. But Gore won the popular vote in 2000 by 500,000 votes |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 12:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. My numbers are exactly right - and so are yours. Here is the link. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
29. Here's your problem. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Response memory shift is indeed a problem - and a great fudge factor |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Wrong, papau... |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 02:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Sorry - I thought post election poll of who vote for who had higher |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 04:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. PERHAPS THIS WILL CLEAR IT UP. PLEASE RESPOND EITHER WAY. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 04:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Some comments |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 05:23 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Papau, please clarify this. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 06:02 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. More comments |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 07:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Here is the table of ANNUAL death rates... |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Quite an assumption. What about Dem voters? |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Get real? |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Yes, the RBR. I just edited the prior post. |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 02:44 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. You are sure doing some fancy footwork. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I misunderstood your intial argument |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 02:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Of course Kerry won. |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 02:53 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. You agree Kerry won, so you should also agree the exit poll was rigged. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 06:11 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. It is still just a smell test - the word rigged for the election is solid |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 07:19 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. No, papau, they changed the preliminary exit poll to match the vote. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 08:07 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I agree the changes stink - but making final changes is SOP for exit |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 10:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
50. To be precise... |
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fob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-05 02:57 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. TIA, I would like to thank you for your work on this as well. |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. MAX% OF 2004 VOTERS WHO COULD HAVE VOTED BUSH IN 2000=50.45/122.6=41.26% |
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fob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-05 11:01 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Thanks for the clarification, I didn't have the exact number at hand |
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keepthemhonest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
45. TIA your |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 06:46 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. An incumbant gets his may/June approval rating in NOv. |
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keepthemhonest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-05 05:57 PM Response to Reply #46 |
65. agreed |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-05 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
51. Kick..........n/t |
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berniew1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-05 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
52. write a version with documentation so it can get some analysis and |
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meatsack (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-05 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
58. Location of exit polls |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-05 09:58 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. You divert from the point of the post: 41% to 43% was IMPOSSIBLE |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-05 11:46 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. A brain ratlle question, TIA |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-05 12:21 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. The 613 is not the issue; they re-weighted the 13047. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-05 07:30 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. I grok that |
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bruised (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-05 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
63. Would like to agree , but... |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-05 12:49 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. No one forgets who they voted for last time. |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-05 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
67. 13660 |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-05 01:05 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. I remember reading about the initial 11719 |
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Chi (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-05 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
70. Out of curiousity... |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-05 09:45 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. My calcs |
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Chi (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. I'm sure it's me... |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 09:00 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Does this make sense? |
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berniew1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:08 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Do you know where Exit Poll data is available by precinct or county? |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:36 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. No info on that.. |
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Chi (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 10:50 AM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Thanks for your time TIA. ... n/t |
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