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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 01:30 AM
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Psychics predict election fraud scandal
Psychic Prediction Registry

Contributed by niblet on: Tuesday 03 August 2004 @ 11:12:59
http://www.prophecies.us/article.php?sid=408
"Yes, I feel he will be re-elected. But there is something not right and I believe it has to do with the vote count being manipulated by ultra-conservative supporters who have their own agenda. What they really are is ultra-conservative crooks. There will be another scandal, but this time it will concentrate on the makers of the electronic voting machines and more ballots that are "accidently" lost. Conspiracy theorists will have a field day, but at least Bush himself is completely blameless in this instance if that's any consolation. "



Friday 05 November 2004
http://www.prophecies.us/article.php?sid=566
"The exposure of electoral fraud will be too late to alter World events .... Bush will enter phase of extream personal crisis in Summer of 2005. Health problems, threats to his person, and extream danger. It is unclear if he survives or not. at present, it is 50/50. In any event, it is absolutely clear he will not survive in Office ... Most important of all, I feel that eventually, the Neocons will be greatly disgraced, and seen as almost treasonous, when a great secret scandle is finally revealed."

Another:
"There is a woman who will blow the whistle on the bush administration. She will expose the truth about election fraud. a small group of People close to the Rupublican administration turn redcoat, they will back up her claims. This will divide our nation even more, However, the truth will reveil itself in time, Key players will face doing time. The President is cluless, He believes he won fair and square. This will be a dark time in our country."

Another:
" I had a strong premonition of this early Thursday morning, 11/4/04. I was awakened by a psychic burst of energy that continued unabated for 3 1/2 hours. There was a person, very religious, struggling with his or her conscience about the Presidential election. After a while I could tell it was a woman in deep suffering. She knew the Presidential election was rigged and she knew she had to admit what she had done but was very afraid."

Predicted on August 4th 2004
"Bush will not win the election; however, he stays in the White House"
http://www.prophecies.us/article.php?sid=447










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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 01:35 AM
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1. I don't put much stock in psychics,
but we shall see...
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 01:55 AM
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5. just for fun and anything to get our hopes up can't hurt... n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 12:37 AM
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30. I do put my stock in psychics
I am one and knew if they didn't get rid of the machines shrub would "win".
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 12:44 AM
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31. I also feel
We have the internet on our side and though darker days may grace our doorsteps, they will be brief. Bush woke many a sleeping babe. The majority knows this election was stolen, and now are realizing the TV is lying to them. We live in extraordinary times.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 01:35 AM
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2. Say, has anyone seen Karen Hughes lately?
:evilgrin:
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 01:56 AM
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6. Didn't she tell Bush on election night that he had lost?
Things that make you go "Hmmm..."
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 01:56 AM
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7. are you thinking about that "religious woman whistleblower"??
that was my first thought too. isn't she the one who supposedly told Bush he lost on 11/2, as if she didn't know what was up?
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 02:05 AM
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10. I wonder about the depths of Hughes' integrity
versus the depths of her devotion to Bush.

Weigh them on a scale; which comes out on top?
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 03:37 AM
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15. Is she the woman 'near' the Admin. who tells all...as in prediction?
There aren't many "higher-up" Women close to the inner-circle. Except for Condi. And Pickles?
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 01:37 AM
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3. oh my..... the august ones are quite surprising.
"Bush will not win the election; however, he stays in the White House"


ain't that the truth....
(well, as far as we can gather, not what we can legally proove...)
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 01:42 AM
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4. One can dream...
But people generally prefer ignorance in the face of uncomfortable knowledge.
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 02:00 AM
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8. heh...interesting.
i don't think you need to be psychic to see that the neocons would steal the election tho. what i think is more interesting is the continuing theme of a deeply religious female whistleblower who will bring down the admin.

it's a nice dream, anyways, if nothing else. i'll be the first to admit that psychics have always believed that they could see the future, and were always wrong. but i also believe that there really are psychics in the world, people who can tap into something in their brain that enables them to see broader events.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 02:03 AM
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9. I could probably find 100+ people on DU who "predicted"
that Bush would steal the election. That's kind of a "duh" moment.

But the other stuff is a bit deeper.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 02:54 AM
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11. Speaking as someone who is psychic...
First - I have no control over it, more often than not I don't even understand it until it happens. 90% of them come through dreams, they are accurate but often isolated. For example I dreamed about the WTC 3 or 4 months before it happened but I couldn't even tell anything, for that I saw the plane hit on the TV I was watching when it happened. There were not enough references in the brief glimpse I got to tell me anything of import past that apparently I thought a plane hitting a building was going to be REALLY REALLY important. Not much help. Mind you, it didn't take any psychic abilities on that day to predict the draconian laws, the invasion of Iraq and even the rigging of the 2004 election. It was obvious Bush wasn't going to lose after 2000. That this administration would/will collapse on itself is also something that doesn't take a psychic, just how it's going to break. Though this is the kind of situation more psychics will notice because the poping of a 'bubble gum crisis' makes a more of a psychic impression. So they will be even more ready to predict when it should blow which can be seen from this administrations record to be 6 months to a year after every major F-up.

Second - There are a huge amount of fakers out there, it's hard to tell who's real or not anymore. I've met some who are just imaginative people who are grounded in reality and often are taking wild guesses. Far too often they are little more than blowhards looking for attention or social butterflies that think it brings them attention. The best way to listen to them is to thinkin that 30% of what they are sayingf is right and 70% is bullshit... just figure out which is which. ;)

Third - As for how it works, I suspect that it either is that the brain is capable of sensing quantum vibrations in certain people thus allowing them to follow 'more likely' paths of the future in a glimpse of our quantum universe's continuum. In simple terms, psychic phenom comes from a brain being able to percieve into a slightly broader spectrum in whatever direction that it developes. There are other people who aren't psychic, just very astute students of history and very observant toward patterns.

Here are pattern observations ob the bush administration that anyone can use if they think about it.

Major lies being 'uncovered' by the media - 6 - 8 months after 'conspiracy nuts' pointed out the lies.

For instance - Lies about Iraq, the media didn't start to cover until june/july over the state of the union address in any capacity. Even though it was 'soft toed'.

With the impressive amount of things backing up, much like the Nixon Administration, they are angering enough people who are employees in the government and who actually care that someone will finally break and spill something major. It's just a matter of guessing what will upset the American people enough to where the republicans will turn to cowardly sacks of jelly as they have in the past.

It's more of a matter of toss the dart and wonder which one will stick on a subject.

Voting Fraud being admitted to by a member of the administration's inner circle would be like putting a stick of dynamite under the presidency. Predicting Summer isn't hard either since Bush seems to have a much worse time in the news during the summer when all the big wigs are on their vacations.
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 03:53 PM
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25. yea, i understand where you're coming from.
i think i'm a touch prescient, but not enough to "see the future"...more like i get deja vu ALL THE TIME, and remember some sort of dream that i had (usually mundane, pointless things...)

there are a lot of fakers out there, as with anything i suppose: the majority of copycatters and fakers ruin something for the small percentage of people who are actually capable or believe something.

plus, there's the "analysis versus prediction" thing wherein an astute observer with a command of history and the right facts can make "predictions" that seem psychic in nature, but are simply the mind putting patterns together.

i'd say it's hard to be psychic, and not have anyone believe you, but at the same time i understand those people who are skeptics...its' kinda hard to believe that some people are naturally able to "read" the future.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 11:36 PM
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29. You ain't just whistling dixie
Edited on Sun Mar-06-05 11:57 PM by Selteri
I've made predictions and desperately tried to warn people when I felt or saw something and always get the same thing, people poo poo what I say even though I'm correct.

It doesn't matter what the subject is, I don't even have to mention the word psychic, I'm smart enough to be able to observe and comment on the trends in the stock market, politics, world events and their repercussions. Time and again I'm pretty much ignored as being just a blowhard, nut or accused of 'overanalizying a situation'. Like when I suggested to my mother to get out of Microsoft in Feb 99 and told my mom to get her stocks out of the market and put it into bonds and gold may of 99. That wasn't psychic though, that was seeing a pattern because of how the pre-elections were already being touted. Still, I was ignored solidly, march 2k rolled by and my mother was in a panic over her stock portfolio. 9-11 happened and she was almost in tears as her retirement disappeared into the stock Market.

I warned my other relatives at the same time and was given a unilateral, "You're just being paranoid, the stock market is fine. That's what the fed is for." My reply that the interest rates being so high meant it was due for a rebalancing crash because of impatience.

The fact is, the reason some parts of the future are probably so easy to predict is because people will go on believing what they want and not listen to common sense even if it's offered to them in a logical argument.

PS if someone wants my opinion it's to invest in the Japanese and European Stock markets as they are going to do much better than the American will in the near future (DUH again) The Dollar will be at 1.50 by the end of the year against the Euro if the trend continues, but that doesn't take a psychic either.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 03:15 AM
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12. something really weird happened as I posted this thread
this is really weird. when I was typing out the original post of this thread, I felt the ground shake. If I lived in CA that wouldn't mean much. But I'm in Vermont!

At first I thought it was the furnace, or maybe the dog was nearby scratching herself.

But it was enough to force me to get up and look around. The dog was nowhere to be seen, and I knew it wasn't the furnace because I was in a room of the house that's not connected to the furnace (it has a separate heating system).

So I looked it up and it turns out there was a 5.4 earthquake in Southern Canada. When I adjust for time zones, it appeared that the quake happened about 10 minutes before I felt movement here and it was maybe 150 miles away, just guesstimating on the map. I have no idea how fast earthquake ripples move...

But it was pretty weird to be sitting here typing about prophecies and to feel the ground shake. I didn't mention it when I first posted because that was before I found there actually was an earthquake tonight in S. Canada, and I was still trying to come up with another explanation.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 03:24 AM
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13. That's because there was a Canadian quake
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/usvhan.ht...


Magnitude 5.4
Date-Time Sunday, March 6, 2005 at 06:17:49 (UTC)
= Coordinated Universal Time
Sunday, March 6, 2005 at 1:17:49 AM
= local time at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
Location 47.750N, 69.730W
Depth 18 km (11.2 miles) set by location program
Region GASPE PENINSULA, CANADA
Distances 102 km (63 miles) WNW (303) from Fort Kent, ME
106 km (66 miles) SE (126) from La Baie, Qubec, Canada
114 km (71 miles) WNW (293) from Madawaska, ME
153 km (95 miles) NE (47) from Qubec, Qubec, Canada

Location Uncertainty Error estimate not available
Parameters Nst= 84, Nph= 84, Dmin=176.8 km, Rmss=0 sec, Gp= 47,
M-type="Nuttli" surface wave magnitude (MLg), Version=7
Source Geological Survey of Canada, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Event ID usvhan
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 03:31 AM
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14. Nostradamus - prediction about Bush
To a leader will be born an idiot heir,
Weak both in knowledge and in warfare.
The head of France is feared by his sister,
Battlefields divided, conceded to the military.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 03:46 AM
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16. Interesting - I also went and looked up a few more of the predictions from
"Niblet" and here's something else that person/psychic predicted:


Pope will die in March or early April. I tend to think close to March 20. South American likely the new pope.

Putin will have very harsh words for Bush about his meddling in Russias affairs. While weve already seen some at this latest meeting, it will be nothing compared to a speech Putin gives in May. It will stir up some fear of war between the US and Russia, but no such thing will occur. I almost think of it as a the emperor has no clothes type speech.

Attempted or actual terrorist attack late spring near Memorial Day. Train involved? (I need to meditate more on this one) The number 5 is prominently involved. Phoenix.trains, subways seen as well. Multiple locales?

I'm bookmarking this one...
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 04:40 AM
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17. Arab astrologer predicts Bush assassination
Arab astrologer predicts Bush assassination

WorldNetDaily December 28, 2004

A Tunisian astrologer who reportedly predicted the deaths of Princess Diana, Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and Yasser Arafat says President Bush will be killed by an assassin's bullet in 2005.

So seriously are Hassan al-Sharibi's predictions taken in the Arab world that a similar prophecy about Palestinian Liberation Organization leader Mahmoud Abbas has resulted in increased security around the candidate to replace Arafat as president of the Palestinian Authority.

-snip-

"The Middle East region will be sitting on a volcano in 2005, and the situation in Iraq will get even more dramatic as Saddam Hussein is expected to die suddenly before his trial even starts," Sharibi said, according to a report by United Press International.

-snip/more-

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=2633
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Chomp Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 08:48 AM
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20. Make no mistake...
...a Bush assassination would be such a complete and utter catastrophe for the planet that it hardly bares thinking about.

The world would do well to survive the ensuing turmoil. It would be very, very bad.

Not to mention Mount Rushmore.






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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 03:06 PM
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23. Damn straight !!!!!
I've been praying for * ever since I read that.!

I pray he'll live a very long life...behind bars.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 04:56 AM
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18. Concerning weird things happening during creepy/borderline creepy thoughts
...I had a dream several weeeks ago with creepy dead face flashes and a resounding "7 deadly sins in the background" as I was looking through a bathroo mmirror. The dream occured at about 2 in the morning following a 4.0 earthquake in a nearby city. I do live in southern california, so it wasn't much of a surprise, but being half asleep -waking me up from a creepy dream made me think it was satan.... or something; until in the morning i found out in my poli sci class it was an earthquake. =| Considering i live in southern cali, it shouldn't have taken me that long. But i find it kinda strange when earthquakes or someting happen during somewhat disturbing thoughts or "premonitions" haha.

Well I think the whole psychic/premonition crap is all but anything good for us, but it could certainly be adddicting! I hope each and every one of those predictions come true, but I don't see how killing our stupid, spoiled, rich leader will keep us from having a stupid, spoiled rich leader forever. People seem to not care even if they cheat their way right into office...
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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 08:04 AM
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19. Don't psychics have spellcheck?
"extream"
"scandle"
"reveil"
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:24 AM
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21. Too bad
That pretty much proves there won't be a scandal.
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 02:29 PM
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22. This one is easy to call. Doc. of fraud & systematic suppression -25 state
Reported touchscreen switching in 16 states; widespread systematic illegal dirty tricks in many counties of 25 states, other fraud and manipulation of registrations, ballots, ballot counting, absentees, and provisionals in 25 states.

http://www.flcv.com/ussumall.html

There's likely to be a scandal because the extent of the fraud, illegal actions, malfeasance, manipulation is so extensive and there is a paper trail- its just still waiting for someone to insist it be investigated- but the evidence is there and can't be covered up entirely.


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Mistwell Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 03:11 PM
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24. Are we not the party of science and rationality? [EOM}
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JD Lau Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 07:55 PM
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26. Interesting, but certainly not conclusive.
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 09:08 PM
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27. Boy! I believe!
I had a psychic tell me, before the election, that whoever was elected would not serve out the whole term. I don't know about you guys, but I will sleep GOOD tonight! Thanks!
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mbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 09:56 PM
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28. I could be Karen Hughes or maybe Mary Matlan who
will spill the beans!
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passy Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 01:16 AM
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32. I was sent this article before the election
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200410/s1231203.ht...

it refers to this article here http://www.iacfpa.org/p_news/nit/iacpa-archieve/2004/11...

" In my understanding Kerry will not only have an edge over his rival, but is likely to defeat Bush in the final verdict."

" Bushs bad times are not yet over. He should take care of his health health problems cannot be ruled out in coming months."

" The aftereffects of Kerrys win would prove highly beneficial to the U.S., as this will also bring peace in the rest of the world. The Middle East, Afghanistan and the South Asian subcontinent will have a congenial atmosphere."

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