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WiseFawn Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 09:57 AM
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Blackwell's office had secret slush funds and Perry County lawsuit
~"New affidavits point to possible criminal activity by top Ohio election officials, raising yet more questions about the 2004 vote. Rhonda J. Frazier, a former employee of the Ohio Secretary of State's office, has confirmed in an affidavit taken by Cynthia Butler, working with freepress.org, that the Office had secret slush funds. Frazier says it also failed to comply with the requirements of "The Voting Reform Grant" that required all the voting machines in Ohio to be inventoried and tagged for security reasons.

"I was routinely told to violate the bidded contracts to order supplies from other companies for all 17 Secretary of State offices throughout the State which were cheaper vendors, leaving a cash surplus differential in the budget," Frazier states, "After complaining about the office's repeated practices of violating grants and contracts I was fired."

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/99...

~"Citing voting irregularities, Democrat Bill Crane is asking the courts to overturn Republican Larry Householders election last month to the Perry County auditors office.

Crane filed a lawsuit Thursday in Common Pleas Court against the outgoing Ohio House Speaker and the Perry County Board of Elections, alleging that the number of votes exceeded the number of people who signed voting books in at least 11 of 46 precincts."

http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.php?story=dispatch/2...
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BlueDog2u Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 10:04 AM
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1. uhu
You go, John Conyers! Catch these crooks and put them in jail.
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 10:07 AM
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2. Whistleblowers keep popping up...good news.
When they see what * is doing with his "mandate", how can they NOT come forward.
I wouldn't want this on MY conscience!
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 10:11 AM
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4. Soon there won't be enough thugs to go around.
If enough people step forward, the intimidation squad is going to have their hands full. I wonder how many makes a critical mass where they just can't threaten everyone.

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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 02:09 PM
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24. So why hasn't Blackwell been indicted??
All it takes is one person reading this to take this info to a grand jury.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 03:55 PM
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34. The DNC should file charges here
This is really right time and place
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 03:46 PM
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32. This is a really good point...
The more whistle-blowers, the safer they are.
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 10:08 AM
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3. Does this freepress have anything to do with the
freepers that I read about all the time on here?
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 10:16 AM
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5. Nothing to do with them. Freepers (i.e. Freeptards, Freeps, Hitler Youth)
are all part of freerepublic.com. These are Nazis who adore the Chimp and incite violence on anyone who underminds or questions the Chimp's authority. They love the fascism that is on the rise in America and are dumb as a box of rocks. Freepress.com has nothing to do with them.
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 10:19 AM
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7. You're FAST, TexasChick! LOL
good mornin'
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 10:23 AM
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9. Hey, and a big 'ol Texas good morning to you too!
:hi:
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 10:34 AM
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10. How correct you are................
(notice I didn't say "right", a horrible insult to you). I find it very telling that people with less that a high school diploma voted for "*" over Kerry by at least 12%. I'm also convinced that those very same people make up the majority of RimJob's minions on FR.
The more education, the more apt one is to see through all of the neo-con's propaganda.
"Stupid is as stupid does". It SO exemplifies the rabid right.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 10:39 AM
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11. ClintonTyree, LOL!! Thanks for not telling me how "right" I am! LOL! n/
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BreakForNews Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:16 AM
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13. Got Smarts?
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 06:17 PM
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41. I would love a t-shirt with your wagkingdom.com visual on it!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:21 AM
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14. Could that be why the bushco admin really doesn't care about
funding education? Keep the masses stupid and you can control them and convinence them of anything. Once they are educated, they will start to think for themselves and ask questions and then the "power is doomed". :freak:


Note: Repuke govs are not funding education (Mississippi) and they are controlling the college boards and trying to do away with liberal professors. :argh:
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:51 AM
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19. they have been doing it for years
education funding never really recovered from ronnie times. esp. california higher ed, thanks to gov ron.
my 11-3 comments- looks like a generation of thug slashing of education funding has finally paid off.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 05:01 PM
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40. Please don't assume that....
People without a high school diploma aren't intelligent!

one I know --> 136 IQ, 334 GED score, voted for Kerry

:o
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 10:17 AM
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6. nope
freepers=free republic site
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WiseFawn Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 10:20 AM
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8. NO!
The Free Press started a lot of this! In Ohio,anyway. It's Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman.
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 10:45 AM
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12. The FreePress
are heros for democracy
:yourock: FreePress
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:23 AM
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15. Secret slush funds?
Could they use this to pay off the technicians and other "workers" that fudged the records? hmmmmmmm :think:
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:26 AM
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16. Thank you!
I'm forwarding this!
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:39 AM
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17. great article. I MAILED TO 7 DEMS and LOTS of Media
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:47 AM
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18. Oh boy.
Just when I think that this story can't twist & turn anymore...
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:52 AM
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20. I want it to keeping twisting for the truth


We must get this right before January 1st.

I keep dreaming that this will play out like they best movie ever.

The good guys win.

Please don't wake me up with negatives. : )
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Farmgirl Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:59 AM
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21. My favorite line of the freepress article is this...
"The presidential election of 2004 is by no means over."

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/99...

You betcha... :kick:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 12:01 PM
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22. Great article. Thanks for posting.
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lizzieforkerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:08 PM
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23. Yipee!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 02:13 PM
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25. What is a "slush" fund??
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 03:17 PM
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28. Here's a definition of it, proudtobeadem:
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 08:23 PM
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43. Thank you texas chick! :) nt
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 03:11 PM
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26. Slush funds, election fraud and NO embarrassed republicans...
Freepress :yourock:
So looking forward to the next legal twist for our side!
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 03:14 PM
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27. Again, "more votes than voters"
THEY MUST, MUST, MUST get those pollbooks and analyze those against the counts. That's where the evidence is and that's why Blackwell locked down the records.
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 03:32 PM
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29. The freepress link give me a "page cannot be displayed" message.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 03:37 PM
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30. me, too, must be busy, alt link anyone?
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Hamoth Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 03:44 PM
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31. same here -nt
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EMunster Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 03:50 PM
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33. Still down...and story no longer found through google news...


one probably explains the other...wish it was cached


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EMunster Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 04:08 PM
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37. me wrong -- found through google news...but still no access n/t
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 03:57 PM
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35. Still down
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EMunster Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 04:03 PM
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36. Copy exists over at Kos....link...

better copy it over to here, too. In case...well...you know...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/18/11403/131#57





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EMunster Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 04:14 PM
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38. link working again
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EMunster Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 04:29 PM
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39. Interesting: a "Rhonda Frazier" was a plantiff in first suit but dropped..
Edited on Sat Dec-18-04 05:04 PM by EMunster

...from the second.

Must mean Arnebeck knows something about her. Haven't read it through, but maybe her charges are in the refiling...

will go see

edit: Frazier charges not in refile.

Freepress link to both filings:
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/99...


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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 08:05 PM
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42. Rhonda Frazier is listed as a plaintiff in the second filing as well.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:19 PM
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44. kick
.
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dlaliberte Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 02:45 AM
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45. Intimidation in Summit County
Here is a report from the Summit County recount. (I'd create a new thread if I could.) I've got numbers for each precinct too, which includes overvotes and undervotes. But I don't think the table will transfer here very well. PM me if you are interested.



The Summit County Recount started officially with an opening session of the Board of Elections on Tuesday, December 14. 2004. At this time I asked how the random selection of the 3% handcount would proceed and was told that earlier in the day (Tuesday), the Director and Deputy Director took the cards of the 475 precincts in Summit County and randomly drew the precincts. Two other Board employees were present as witnesses, one of them being an IT specialist who was charged with tabulating votes to ensure that 3% of the vote was counted. Overall 14 precincts were selected.

I was then given a tour of the space in which the recount would take place, and inquired with the Director of the Board of Elections, Bryan Williams, as to where the observers would be able to monitor the recount. I was told that the observers would view the recount from the chairs set alongside the wall, roughly three to four feet from the tables. I followed up with the difficulties that would arise from being able to observe the ballots from that distance, and was told that this what the Board does for any recount procedure.

Thanks to George Taylor and Candice Hoke, I was given ORC statute and opinion that in a Presidential candidate requested recount that we as observers were within our legal right to be able to have full view of the ballots while being counted. In route to the Board of Elections on Wednesday morning, December 15. 2004, I called and spoke to the Directors assistant, Steve (did not catch last name) and told him of our statutory right to be able to stand at the table to be able to view the ballot. After a few minutes of being put on hold, I was told that it would be determined as to where the observers would be placed when I arrived.

At 8:00 a.m. the observers were told that there would be no food and drink allowed, to park our coffee cups on the counter and once in the room we would be given further directions. The last comment made by Bryan Williams was that we would have access to the tables where the recount would take place.

The directions were given to us by John Schmidt, Deputy Director of the Board of Elections; we as observers would be allowed to stand at the head of the table where the workers would be doing the recount, and that we were not to utter a word, that the room would be in complete silence for the duration of the recount. We were not to interfere in the recount process, we would not be able to ask to have the ballot inspection go according to our tempo, that we were discouraged to challenge or dispute a ballot, and again a strong emphasis on that we were to be silent throughout the process. I asked for clarification on how then it would be that we as observers would be able to contest a ballot or to request without that ballot being lost in the pile since again we were told to keep silent, and the response was that we could get the attention of one of the line supervisors to make our point.

The ballots were brought out, already in bins, the canvas bag was presented at the table, and we were off to the races!! I felt bewilderment in that no one was clear in how to communicate under gag order, that many of the tables placed the ballot book on the opposite side of the table so that it was difficult at best to determine the rotation of the candidates for that particular precinct to watch for ballot irregularities.
Stalwart we proceeded. Many of us were continually told to back away from the tables where the count was taking place. One observer noted, John Schmidt was as antagonistic as he could be as though his job was to make the day as difficult as possible; he asked us to stand away from the tables so we took a position at the end of the table. He drew a line on the floor with tape even though the volunteers were behind it the whole time. He even threatened to throw me out because he said I was too close. When he put the tape down, it was obvious that we were behind his imaginary line.

Another observer commented, John Schmidt asked me to step back from the line. There was no line, told me it was the line of the table. I was behind it. He made me take two steps back and was fairly rude and difficult. It seemed as though he was trying to make an example of me and two others. He took masking tape and laid it on the carpet and said we must stay behind the tape. The thing was the tables werent lined up evenly so while I was behind the table I was monitoring, I was in front of the table line to my left. It seemed to me this guy just wanted to bully someone. There was no mention of staying behind lines before we took our places.

I was also threatened with removal from the premises if my lips moved, the deputy director was very determined that there was not to be a single whisper in the room from anyone. I was walking around to some of the volunteers who looked bewildered to say in my quietest of voices just to observe and write down anything that would document the moment. I can appreciate the notion of wanting silence, but the vigilance at which we were scrutinized and admonished was absurd.

I did step outside to seek counsel on the matter of being pushed away from the table and contacted Donald McTigue who advised me that we as observers should have the opportunity to be looking over the shoulders of the workers if we so desired. It was also stated that we were within our right to set the pace of the ballot count and that we had the right to dispute or challenge a ballot. This would be difficult to do I told him since no one is able to communicate with the table counters, nor were we to utter a single word while observing. He suggested that he call the BOE, and I concurred that they should be made aware that we were requesting was within reason within the law.

The pace of the recount was extremely fast; all ballot counting was done by 1:10 p.m. Two of the precincts came back out for a second round of hand count because the initial run of the machine count did not match the hand count, those precincts being Stow 1-F, and Akron 3-K. It took the complete time of the recount to hand reconcile Akron 5-D. This precinct it seemed during the hand count refused to match the official machine count that was given on election night. An observer also noted that there was some discrepancy with both Springfield township precincts A and B. After the double hand recounts at Springfield A, the tallies did not appear to match with the computer generated count. BOE official then recounted the ballots, primarily stacks #6 and #8, but it appeared that it was #6 that did not match the machine printout. The officials then went to table Springfield B to count that table, perhaps to see if a ballot was mixed up between A and B precincts.

Another observer commented that one of the workers was shielding her count from the observers in what could be perceived as deliberate. Team #7, Bernie, kept the ballots hidden by holding her contrast (yellow) sheet over them so I couldnt see the holes. She held the yellow sheet in her left hand and as she moved one ballot from in front of her with her right and into the line of sight, she covered it with the yellow sheet.

When there was a discrepancy, it was nearly impossible to hear what the line supervisor determined the ballot should be counted as since voices were kept to a minimum by the employees and we were not allowed to lean in to hear what the discrepancy was. This happened a number of times throughout the recount process.

Four observers were allowed to view the machine tabulation of the ballots that had been hand counted, one to represent each of the presidential candidates, and not for the write in candidate. I was told by one of our observers that when the process commenced that the directions would be given once and only once to expedite the process. We did have two of the observers that were trained under me in the machine room, and there were no complaints from either that they did not understand the process. Attached with this report is a full count spreadsheet supplied by one of our observers of his tabulations.

I requested the opportunity to review the rejected provisional and absentee ballots and was denied that request. As well I requested that we view the signature books that corresponded to the ballots being hand counted, and again the request was denied. I did have a conversation later in the day with the director, Bryan Williams, and was told that the BOE was unable to accommodate our request today, and they would be happy to allow us to view these materials over the next few days.

The machine tally for the rest of the ballots in Summit County will take place on Thursday, December 16, beginning at 8:00 a.m. We are told that the process will take a few hours.




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