Bush's popular vote margin now barely 3 million

[NewYorkerfromMass]

and he is well below 51% (at 50.75). I don't know how many more absentees are being counted and how many states have yet to finalize their tallies, but I am looking forward to the continued erosion of any sort of "mandate" claim, and the possiblility that Bush will go below 50.5% and denied the "rounding" of his percentage up to 51%. (I believe that will take about a 650,000 vote change in the margin.)

Anyway, here's to small victories!

on edit: The fucking press keeps repeating the 3.5 million number!!! :mad:

"...Few mainstream politicians dispute Bush's victory, and the incumbent's 3.5 million-vote margin nationwide was wider than any of the reported problems, which included insufficient or incomplete provisional ballots and, in some places, brazen partisan shenanigans."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/wire/sns-ap-unsettled-election,1,7786618.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines

[Patsy Stone]

Can we get

him below 50%. :) Pleeeeeeze?

[NewYorkerfromMass]

6. No. It would take an add of almost 2 million votes

to the other candidates. Bush is at 61.9 million votes now and double that is about 124 million total votes. Right now the total turnout is a phenomenal 122 million.

http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/national.php?year=2004&f=1

[Patsy Stone]

12. But when

you take away all the votes he received which should have gone to Kerry, or add the true votes that Kerry received in discarded absentee and provisional ballots, I think we're close. :)

I was just tryin' to be funny.

[kerry2win]

13. everytime I see over 60 mil. unbelievable

no way thats proof right there of fraud. I don't know anyone that voted for goer in 2000 voting for b**h but there were quite a few that voted for the chimp in 2000 that switched to Kerry ( for 1st time voted dem.) 10 million new votes and the msm goes on as if nothings wrong.

[berniew1]

18. There are a lot of irregularities proven but not contested in Red States

Also, it appears likely that Kerry won several of the close states- like Ohio, New Mexico, Nevada, Iowa; if a serious recount with full investigation was done. There is a lot of evidence of irregularities and fraud. Ohio or Florida alone, where there is also serious question, or a combination of the others would give Kerry the win. The election was close, but the total margin was inflated because the Dems couldn't afford to campaign in the Red states, while the Repubs could. There was a huge differential in money between the parties overall.

[oscar111]

19. YES! since bbv's "counted" 80% of nat'l votes, and they are

total mysteries, as to their insides. Could have added massive millions to Bush tally.

Eighty percent of tally is totally IN DOUBT!

Abundant reason for

NEW ELECTIONS NOW!

"Republican vote machines" is great meme. Those eighty percent of votes, are recorded on machines made by two repub-owned companies.

the link gives the percent of nat'l vote by BBV gizmos.

http://www.solarbus.org/stealyourelection/articles/20things.html Changed:7:27 AM on Tuesday, December 14, 2004

we need,

NEW ELECTIONS NOW

use that as a meme to "reframe the debate". We should repeat it till Joe Citizen recalls it easily.

[aquart]

1. Still not believable.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

2. WHAT??? NO MANDATE???

[Patsy Stone]

4. I've posted this before

But I think it bears repeating -- from Randi:

"That man couldn't get a mandate if he stood in the middle of the West Village in chaps -- buttless chaps." :)

[RaulVB]

3. Wait until the 5 millions of his "extra votes" are taken back (n/t)

[LSparkle]

5. I just read today that his Hispanic support wasn't as high

as originally reported ... The "mandate" erodes as quickly as the dollar falls. And what about all the military votes? Have those FINALLY been counted? (You'd think those numbers would be all over the news if they were available.)

[Kellis]

7. Here's to small victories!

:toast:

I think I will send out a 'few' emails to the media about this little 'victory'.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

9. We should because they keep reporting the 3.5 million number

and that just gets me :mad:

[WI_DEM]

8. When the challenger can get 58,901,264 votes and 48.3% of the vote

there is no way in hell that the winner can claim a mandate. It was one of the closest elections in US history. Heck, everybody always says Carter-Ford was close in '76, and this is about as close as that election was. The media should (but won't) be truthful and say there is no mandate.

[Karenca]

10. kick nt

[momzno1]

11. can we please call it a "faux vote margin"

Since every time we confirm the MSM's bullshit, we frame it their way and it reinforces it. There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY that Bush won the popular vote - didn't happen.

[Kellis]

14. sure

no problem-Faux Margin,Faux Mandate...or just "Mandate my ASS!".

People we need to be demanding that the media report the news and not the propaganda!!

NO MANDATE

:kick:

[NewYorkerfromMass]

15. Update: Lead down to 3,018,672

50.75% to 48.27%. :)
http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/national.php?year=2004&f=0

[rehema]

16. The real message is 60,186,328 and counting voted against Bush

[genieroze]

17. Just like they kept on reporting that Gore lost Florida.

Even after independent recounts showed he really won.

[texpatriot2004]

20. His faux margin is down to what exactly?

[NewYorkerfromMass]

21. Update: Bush up a bit to 3,025,000

damn!!!
http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/national.php?year=2004&f=1

[McCamy Taylor]

22. In Bush speak "mandate" = "slimmest of margins"

[NewYorkerfromMass]

23. Bush now by 3,012,625

Bush . 62,040,237 50.73%
Kerry 59,027,612 48.27% http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/national.php?year=2004&f=1