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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:45 AM
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Hillary without the makeup WOW
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 11:48 AM by bigdarryl
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The Raw Story | A rational voice - Alternative news. She said the situation in Iraq is BREATHTAKING!!! and not getting better but worst
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:47 AM
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1. Could you post a pic of yourself after a hard days work?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:48 AM
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2. Would we dare make this kind of comment about a man?
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:50 AM
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5. I was just posting a pic of how much makeup can change a womans appearance ...
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 11:50 AM by bigdarryl
it's nothing to be ashame of
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:57 AM
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13. See response #11 below. n/t
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:59 AM
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15. You apparently resemble
Pinocchio..................And I'm not refering to your Johnson.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:59 AM
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16. Makeup? It's not just that. Take a pic of yourself w/a strong light from the side &
see how you look, BigD, when you've got strong shadows highlighting any imperfections you might have.

Shit, even I can't pass the light from the right test and come out looking perfect! :evilgrin:
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Buck Laser Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:00 PM
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17. I can't believe you'd overlook the msg to comment on looks...
She simply looks like a hard-working person. I carry no particular brief for Senator Clinton, but I do think stooping to comment on her appearance is about as snarky as can be.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:18 PM
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36. snarky and low...
but them some people have an agenda that is all too obvious...

we don't need the repukes to fight with - we have our very own circular firing squad that has reported for duty...
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:58 PM
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52. yah. thats the ticket.
:sarcasm:
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:48 AM
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3. She looks just fine to me. eom
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:18 PM
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37. me too...
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:57 PM
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51. She looks just fine. I don't get it.
Is she supposed to look like a Bratz doll or something? :shrug:
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:49 AM
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4. Horrible angle and lighting.......
not even a supermodel would pass that test.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:56 AM
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12. Exactly. The light is coming directly fromt the right, casting shadows
on every little bump and wrinkle, and she still looks alright.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:50 AM
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6. What a steaming pile of shit post. NT
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:52 AM
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7. I don't have a problem with the post.
She doesn't look good in that picture. Would you deny that?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:53 AM
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8. She looks fine. NT
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:55 AM
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11. What a surprise - Saturday morning and the
little men are on the internet. Go chop down a tree if you want to feel manly.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:00 PM
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20. I do. She looks fine. I'm tired of all the 40 going on 85 facelifted
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 12:08 PM by Benhurst
types.

While I may disagree with her on many issues (she's too DLC/pro-business for me), I think she looks fine. Distinguished, in fact.

On edit: ABC News has just reported Senator Clinton has said from Iraq that it is time to redeploy the troops home.

Go, Hillary! :bounce:

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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:46 PM
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45. Yep, I agree...
I think she looks fine...and distinguished.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:09 PM
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27. I will look for your reply on the next Condi or Pickles post
Come on, now.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:28 PM
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42. Their looks don't matter either. NT
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:54 AM
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9. I wonder what this has to do with her ability to lead??? n/t
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:55 AM
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10. eh?
First, why on earth is Senator Clinton's 'without makeup' appearance of interest? I am interested in her response to Dumbass's speech, I am not interested in how she looks.

Second, she looks fine to me as a woman in her late 50's who looks like a woman in her late 50s. Is she supposed to look 20? I find the botox and surgery and collogen disasters that the hollywood women in their 50's and beyond have done to themselves idiotic and grotesque. People who are comfortable with themselves and their age are far more attractive to me than those who desperately try to look like something that they cannot possibly be. I'll choose Meryl Streep over Melanie Griffith any day.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:17 PM
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34. thanks, Warren
I'm struck by how often I look at a Hollywood gal and instead of thinking she looks good, I'm thinking gawd why is she still trying to look like she's in her 20's? People lose the character in their face when they cannot smile or make a decent expression.....I'll take my wrinkles any day over a permanent look of surprise.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:49 PM
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47. Wrinkled and proud.
Us wrinkled folks have to stick together.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:58 AM
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14. DU's. Most. Sexist. Igorant. ASSED. Post. EVER!
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:01 PM
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22. This poster is one I will be
playing close attention to............... :argh:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:11 PM
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30. Have you ever seen any of the Laura or Condi pic posts here?
and was your response the same as it was to this one?

Just wondering
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:00 PM
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18. Why is that important?
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:00 PM
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19. Hillary is beautiful
the face lines that women develop as they age make them look more compellingly attractive. It shows wisdom, maturity, and character.

Yesterday, I told a friend i was 42 years old. She looked at me and said: you look younger, I thought you were in your 30s! Most women would have been flattered by that remark. I was not ... I really want face lines! :)

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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:01 PM
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21. Senator Clinton's views on Iraq - ignored in this post -
WOW - what a surprise....

Because after all, it's much more important what she LOOKS LIKE than what she's thinking. She's only a woman.

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:04 PM
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23. Why is this an issue?
Why should women "have" to wear makeup, "have" to "look young", "have" to have children (now I'm thinking of the repuke reaction to Boxer's remarks to Rice)? Isn't this buying into a sexual stereotype? I'm more interested in what she DOES than how she LOOKS.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:04 PM
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24. haha, BigD's taking heavies & some of DU's finest feminists havent even seen the thread yet
Wait until Morgana gets her eyes on your post. :evilgrin:

:popcorn:
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fairfaxvadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:06 PM
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25. that's an unusual shot of her
I've seen her 3 times in the past year, not from a distance but within 2 feet, and she doesn't look like that in person at all, or in most of her photographs. She's a lot more petite than she seems on tv or in photos, and she's always so well put together.

But to the substance of what she said, I'm glad she spoke out in this way. Ambitions or no, I don't think Hillary joins any choir of opinion until she is damn good and ready. And obviously, she is ready now.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:10 PM
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28. "She's a lot more petite than she seems on tv"
That's what surprised me so much a few years ago when my wife and I went to hear her speak in our area. She was so petite. She was also radiating in personality and looks when you got up close to her. After her talk, she stayed so everyone could come up and meet her if they wanted. Nice lady and way more personable than what people give her credit for.
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:09 PM
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26. I've question the OP's motives for a while now.
Freeperish
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:39 PM
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44. You and me both n/t
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MaryBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:10 PM
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29. WOW is right, if you are not interested in her ideas.
She looks thoughtful, caring, and attractive.

I love the overall response to this original message to date.

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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:12 PM
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31. That's what an intelligent hard-working woman looks like
It's beneath you to comment on her looks when she's trying to do a good job for her country.
I wonder what you would have said about Golda Meir?

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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:16 PM
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32. I wish I looked THAT good some mornings/days...
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 12:21 PM by TankLV
we should all be so "lucky"...

now, as to your agenda for posting this crap...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:17 PM
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33. Why am I not surprised? This is a post I expect in the Other Place.
Hillary isn't 21 and she's not trying to be.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:18 PM
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35. I think she looks good and remember she is 60 years old....
with no face lifts. She always looks good. She does look very tired in that photo. She is also being honest about the situation in Iraq.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:19 PM
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38. how refreshing compared to botoxed stepford pickles n/t
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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:25 PM
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39. She is reading the Iraq Study Group Report
I don't care what she looks like, I like the looks of what she is reading. Too bad the dim son couldn't read a book.

Beautiful, distinguished woman and a beautiful soul.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:26 PM
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40. She looks fine to me. n/t
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:27 PM
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41. she looks fine, and looks like she IS wearing makeup.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:38 PM
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43. This is a very fucked up misogynist OP
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 12:41 PM by ruggerson
not funny in the least, this kind of humor goes over with Freepers, not here.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:49 PM
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46. And your point is?
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:54 PM
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50. exactly
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 01:00 PM by senseandsensibility
The OP obviously isn't impressed with hillary's looks "without make-up". but he doesn't want to come out and say so. That must be because he realizes what a shallow, sexist opinion he really has. Too bad he didn't realize before posting that if you don't want to clearly explain your "point", there's probably something wrong with it.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:51 PM
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48. Holy crap! DUMBEST. POST. EVER.
:eyes:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:53 PM
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49. How does Bush look without makeup?
Don't you think Cheney needs to start working out?

I've heard Robert Gates has thick ankles.

Scooter Libby had horrible cuticles...
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 01:01 PM
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53. I'm not fond of Hillary, but damn it, who are you to judge her looks?
That is a superficial, sexist, immature post by someone who thinks that women have an obligation to be "pretty scenery" for him and that any woman who does not serve this function is to be ignored or ridiculed.

That's what you're really saying, isn't it, bigdarryl?

I see that mindset in a lot of different environments.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 01:14 PM
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54. Who here can cast the first stone?
Who here pushing 60 with no makeup, still hard at work thinks they could look better? If you do...I have a bridge to hit you over the head with and you are in for a rude awaking. That wasn't a very nice post for a fellow Democrat to post. Sorry if I offended you or hurt your feelings. I'm sure you were just trying to be funny...but it was hurtful and was needed to be said. I hope others are listening...me too because I know I have also said some unkind things about others...but I'm trying to learn not to be hypocritical....learning to change our ways is a bitch!

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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 01:15 PM
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55. I've said it before and I'll say it again...
All that is missing is a smile and if you expect Hillary or Nancy or any other member of Congress, male or female to be smiling anytime soon you are in for a long wait. I hope these people keep looking for the long needed solutions to this nations problems. While they are working on this I do not care what they look like. I know this has to be taking a physical toll on these folks. When I look at myself in the mirror I see it there as well. Peace on earth, Kim
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 01:22 PM
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56. IBTL
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 01:24 PM
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57. BigD, you have discovered The Secret Formula
in garnering overwhelming support on the Democratic Underground for Hillary Clinton.

I never thought I'd live to see the day when so many people on DU would show up on a single thread in such an outstanding showing of support for her. Here on this one thread alone, Hillary's received more sympathy and support than in all the previous threads over the last 2 years combined! You go, guy!!

:evilgrin:
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 01:25 PM
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58. Locking
Sexist flame-bait.
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