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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:02 PM
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Rigged Aggregator Codes revealed: how the election was stolen
"How Rigged Aggregators have compromised our elections"

http://rigged-aggregators.blogspot.com /


In auditing the tabulators, it is absolutely crucial we expose the rigged aggregator code. Spread the message to every blog you can find....

This happened in every single precinct it seems there is which had record turnout registration, leaving only two explanations that could EVER account for this result


A) In every single PRECINCT, of every state in the USA, specifically the swing states, at every local level race, the exit poll takers polled the WRONG VOTER AREAS across the entire board. The result of this happening whether it be 50, 100, or 200 precincts across the U.S.A and regardless of denomination, is in the odds of less than .000000001 percent, it has the possibility of happening if lightning strikes the same place TWICE in the same exact minute.


B) The exit poll results have been cooked, and voters purged. The probability of this is more than 45%, over 1000 times higher than the previous explanation.


In fact, thanks to legalized aggregators deployed into every single precinct across the U.S.A, the chances of this happening are now much higher than 50% because it was not done by humans it was done by machines tabulating results.


I bring you evidence of Accenture, legalizing the use of its aggregators for just about all of the elections.




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Calvinist Basset Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:09 PM
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1. Incredible . . .
I mean it. Incredible. It sounds like some ridiculous plot for a bad movie. And yet, I clutch my gut in pain to say it . . . it's real life.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:12 PM
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2. great ...our SOS just tied into Accenture in Nevada ...
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:16 PM
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3. Accenture = Arthur Anderson Consulting....
http://rigged-aggregators.blogspot.com /

Accenture would have been out of sight if it wasn't for the truth that it is not just a technology firm. It's known as Arthur Anderson Consulting and employs many of the largest aggregator programmers including chief technologist Nick Chalko.

Arthur Anderson Consulting were the crimelords behind ENRON. Arthur Anderson has shady relationships with Adnan Khashoggi, Tom Delay, all of the privateers.

Thanks to full frontal aggregators, specific precinct biases down to the lowest level of denomination can be explained. The product line here has been issued as late back as early 1999 in the company records. The official line is,Accenture and the other folks deny all knowledge of caging lists and fraud.

Of course, they are waist deep in it to this date. All problems are compounded by the fact these tabulated cooked results are determined by aggregators. In essence, ChoicePoint and Accenture know everything about your real identity, name, drivers liscence and can at any time one chooses create a shell identity.

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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:18 PM
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5. & Cliff Arnbeck (OH election attny) turned this up:
Clifford Arnebeck retrieved this hard copy of an entire full record of bogus, aggregator created voter lists.

"No Registration Found 040304265 information number] < A > No Registration Found 040302811 ABDULLAHI MOHAMED
3511
PROVIDENCE GLEN DR COLUMBUS OH 43219 No Registration Found 040303822
ADKINS
JESSICA 5386 RIFLE DR CANAL WINCHESTER OH 43110 No Registration Found
040303243
ALLEN ALBERTA 1046 CALDWELL PL COLUMBUS OH 43203 No Registration
Found 040302928
ALLEN TAWANDA R 396 E WHITTIER ST COLUMBUS OH 43206 No
Registration Found
040303253 ANDERSON GEORGE L 1151 S CHAMPION AVE COLUMBUS
OH 43206 No
Registration Found 040303685 ARMSTRONG WILLIE 624 HARMON AVE
COLUMBUS OH 43223
No Registration Found 040304215 ASCHE MARKUS J 6677
CHRISTOPHER PARK LN CANAL
WINCHESTER OH 43110 No Registration Found
040303048 AUSTIN JOSEPH 6978
SPRINGHOUSE LN COLUMBUS OH 43229 No
Registration Found 040303339 AZEEZ
OLUWASHEYI 4676 ROCKCASTLE DR COLUMBUS OH
43229 No Registration Found 040302902
BAKER JENNIFER 4714 GOODMAN ST GROVE
CITY OH 43123 "

http://ohioelection2004.com/DatabaseHost/franklincoregv...
http://tinyurl.com/62jck


You say then why on earth would that many voters be tossed in who are probably bogus, and if you haven't noticed its because data aggregators have mined their identities out of nowhere even on the internet and transported them into their central file.

Its very easy for an automated data aggregator to do all of this.

So at the same time thousands lose their registrations allowing them to vote, thousands others are replaced by bogus votes which show up on the BOE database as "no votes" yet their selection is already cast. 99% of them defaulted to one candidate. Your private information is now floating out there somewhere, thanks to insecure data aggregators. Welcome to the 21st century.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:16 PM
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4. Oh my, more joy.
There is an infinite variety in the ways to cheat.
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:21 PM
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6. on Nick Chalko: the cheaters & methods can be identified
http://rigged-aggregators.blogspot.com /


Apparently the correct answer was Nick Chalko had been involved with quite a group of colorful people as shown in the blogs above. Most of them, intentionally working for the GOP. Most of them if not all, expected the president's re-election. Why was this election so expected and anticipated? Because to be qualitatively frank, they already knew it was finalized.

Not only was Chalko working with them, he had been hired on as a chief build technologist for Accenture Limited as far back as 2003.(And into 2004)

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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:23 PM
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7. I've asked rigged aggregator guy re: danger of straight ticket voting
.....he seemed to be implying that a straight ticket was the most easily manipulatable re: 'making it disappear.'
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 04:28 AM
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21. Chalko--from www.nick.chalko.com
Edited on Sun Mar-20-05 04:45 AM by Carolab



Here's his biography and resume:

http://nick.chalko.com/index.html
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 06:02 PM
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8. Have you posted this at the Election 2004 Discussion board? If not, please
do... thanks!
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 06:34 PM
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9. F*** Schiavo! This is the REAL problem
:kick: :kick: :kick:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 06:59 PM
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10. Please help me send this out.
I can get it out to 5K if you make it more civilian legible.

Thanks,
Beth
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 07:42 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. I agree--I took several stats classes at the graduate level, and this
Edited on Sat Mar-19-05 07:46 PM by mistertrickster
seems to be a lot more opaque than it needs to be. Okay, I checked the original site, and it's so rambling and convoluted, I can't make heads or tails out of it.

Somebody needs to wade through all this chaff and see if there're any grains of truth there.

It's NOT gonna be me, heh.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. Oh, I know it's true. It's just that my translator is working another
gig right now. Limited RAM, you know :)

Much obliged,
B.
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. "Opaque" doesn't do it justice.
This is textbook dementia. There may be something buried underneath all this, but the source is as tinfoil hat as it gets.
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 06:37 AM
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23. He is a programmer.
He is a programmer with as much need for an editor as Wayne Madsen.

I guess its not shocking to find out most grass roots bloggers can not even afford an editor.

But I think it will become real clear.

Its saying basically this, they used the aggregator lines the databases which pull the voter information in and out.

Those aggregators are joined with every tabulator, to disseminate the voters who register. There shouldn't be any problem except for the fact these aggregators have shown clear evidence of abuse, and are utilizing already staged biases.

If this is how it was setup in most states, then we have seen just how bad it is. Programmers right under our noses have been working with the GOP.

I also have to note that when they update next time, there is supposed to be a full page article relating to the House of Represenatives and some shocking facts.

If all this materializes, I can't see why we can not demand congressional action.
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #23
28. I'm a programmer, too.
Edited on Sun Mar-20-05 10:40 AM by kevsand
That's not the problem here. The problem is that he never shows anything resembling hard and fast evidence. I've looked through it again, and it's a hopeless jumble of innuendo, free association, and speculation. It's not even circumstantial. No smoking gun, just smoking pot.

What you say about the aggregators might be true, but there's no proof of it here that I can see. Show me something that'll stand up in court, and I'll shout it from the rooftops...
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 10:20 AM
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30. How Would One GET That Hard Data? Serious Question Here.
Edited on Sun Mar-20-05 10:21 AM by cryingshame
Also, would the method being described here be as likely a method for stealing/manipulating votes?


I am not even really sure what aggregators ARE... but assume it means quantifying data that's put into systems and adding it together????
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 11:01 AM
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31. There are only two ways I can think of
to get the hard stuff. Either someone on the inside has to come out with verifiable docs and trails, or someone on the outside needs to have strong enough inferences to get a court order. As far as I can tell, we don't have either yet in regards to aggregators.

As to the aggregators, they basically collect info from a variety of sources. In this case, he seems to be suggesting that this is used to build a demographic profile of each voter, so that only voters they like get their results added to the tabulators. He also seems to suggest that voters with "good" profiles are brought into precincts they don't belong. I'm not at all sure why they'd want to go to that much trouble.

The level of complexity and artifice here really bothers me. It would be so much easier to just rig the tabulators, without having to add a whole new level of apps to the process. I thought that there were real leads to follow in Ohio in this regard. I suggest that those are potentially much more productive in the long run.

People should dig deeper on this aggregator thing if they think it's promising, but for now I think it fails the "simplest theory" test.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 11:14 AM
Response to Reply #31
32. Which Is Easiest To Either Miss Or Hide? Code Regarding Tabulators
or Aggregators?
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 11:35 AM
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33. It's hard to say definitively
without the actual systems to review. My best guess is that the aggregators, because they would require at least the temporary storage of additional data, and because they are an additional level of activity, would probably leave more of a trail than simply rigging the tabulators.

IMHO, what we really need is full transparency of the systems, such as we would get with open source, as opposed to this proprietary crap. That way any changes should be fully subject to audit. But that's for the future. Prying the lid off the past is gonna be tough...
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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 01:43 AM
Response to Reply #30
41. GETTING THE DATA.. Lawsuits for Open Records
I am likely to be doing a lawsuit in Georgia to ask for the Open records of the CD that comprises the Diebold software and MS access database that comprises not only the ballots but the way the software generates the data for certain kinds of summary reports..

keep your fingers crossed that the ACLU takes my case.. will know in about 2 weeks...

that's how you get the actual data.. you sue till you get it... pretty simple really..... now lets pray for democrat judges in GA will you all....??? please pray hard... even if you're an atheist pray for democrat judges....
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 04:47 AM
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48. Wow good luck!
I'll tell them all about it. They want to just get the manager of TrueVoteMD to figure it out, because those people just seized a tabulator in Maryland.

The only way it was done was through lawsuits. Guess you have to do it in several states.
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 04:21 AM
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46. Good.
Then its easier for you to just talk directly to him.

I can barely understand how it works and grasp it and all of that.

He always updates the site so just click email and email him. Since he never shows everything, all the evidence at one time because of the amount of things there are, its easier to ask on what you want.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #23
34. Try again
Edited on Sun Mar-20-05 11:50 AM by sandnsea
"they used the aggregator lines the databases which pull the voter information in and out.

Those aggregators are joined with every tabulator, to disseminate the voters who register. There shouldn't be any problem except for the fact these aggregators have shown clear evidence of abuse, and are utilizing already staged biases.

If this is how it was setup in most states, then we have seen just how bad it is. Programmers right under our noses have been working with the GOP."

You've got to be kidding me. I'm not stupid, have been following this in lurk mode since 2003, and have absolutely no clue what this means. If you're going to convince people something happened, it's got to be explained in simpler terms than this.
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 04:15 AM
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45. Listen I am the worst.
I am the basic worst at trying to explain this stuff.

I didn't even understand what I typed, I copied it trying to use my own words.


Really, you guys need to just talk to the author for yourself. He always updates the site rigged-aggregators and people can email him.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 04:32 AM
Response to Reply #45
47. Wish you'd mentioned sooner
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 07:07 PM
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11. IMO this is extremely important -- that "3 million" winningmargin
is here/ This is quite possibly the whole, overlooked, silent, invisible crux of the matter.

It's not that the other matters (vote suppression, the damned computerized machines, etc., etc.) aren't terribly importnat, they are. They ARE. But THIS has the potential to override and render moot virtually all that -- invisibly, for all practical purposes.
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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 01:49 AM
Response to Reply #11
42. HITTING NAIL ON THE HEAD
THe disenfranchisement problem could be 100% fixed....
and we could still have 80% of our votes manipulated/rigged by
this problem....

and the DNC is spending 500K on Ohio and NOT ONE SINGLE PENNY ANYWHERE ELSE...it's a huge strategic error for Dean/DNC/Brazile to work only in Ohio and nowhere else... huge problem that they have DRE SUBCOMMITTEE, meaning subservient, less resources, etc. than the fucking disenfrachisement problem... pardon me, I hate disenfranchisement, I despise Georgia's senate passing a law saying you need a driver's license to vote.. I hate going back since before Jim Crowe laws.. but I"m firmly convinced we have a bigger problem.

secret vote counting
Privatized elections....

the disenfranchisement will take many years to correct (and almost entirely a legislative battle to get the laws on the books), secret vote tampering is already on the lawbooks as a felony... meaning we have faster legal recourse to put elections officials in jail for 10 years if we can prove it... that's the point... disenfranchisement is litigating for laws yet to be passed... aggregator/rigging problems are laws that are already here.... I don't see why this isn't clear to the Brazile and company folks.. DNC is so lost on this one....

the bottom line.... the aggregator problem, or more correctly secret vote tabulation by the DRE vendors is THE BIGGEST and most crucial problem to fix now..

you fix that and all their stupid little 'disenfranchisement' tactics, which really piss me off.. still cannot suppress enough votes to ever elect a single republican again for 2 decades.. their party has turned away so many moderates it's not even funny...


this problem is everything... good damn post..... great observation eloriel...
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 07:09 PM
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12. Please repost this
because with the protest and Shiavo discussions, it dropped too fast.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 07:43 PM
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14. ummm, so what? elected dems don't care about all this stuff do they??
all the stuff that shows up on DU about fraud, statistics like TIA and his crowd, data basing, aggregating, all this stuff. now that you guys point it out and it sounds like fairy tales etc....so what is the point if the official establishments are not gonna use this info to make serious changes....no practical application of the information.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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sacxtra Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 08:07 PM
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16. CALL THE COPS. FILE A COMPLAINT LOCALLY. n/t
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 08:13 PM
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17. bump
wanna see where this goes
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 01:08 AM
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19. I agree--this is SERIOUS
Here's the question--are we too late? Is the coup complete, and no one bothered to tell us?

Dark days, feels like Berlin, '37.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 01:22 AM
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20. OMG!!!! DID YOU SEE THIS?
Edited on Sun Mar-20-05 01:35 AM by Carolab
"Alan Gutierrez worked with them indirectly. Here's his website. http://tinyurl.com/4ecch

In regards to registration, just what was Gutierrez proclaiming exactly? In an update we will explore that more. Gutierrez has an outside relationship to the Gutierrez family who rigged elections in the year 2000. He, a sworn "liberal activist" developed the Michigan voter aggregator Publius."

***********

Do you guys remember Jeff Fisher's information about Alan Gutierrez and Red Hat Linux at Ann Arbor? Dr. Piotr Blass's information about Gutierrez being involved? The Baypoint Schools? The Cybernet connection?

Do you remember the long, long thread about this and how we got the connection to the Gutierrez family in Florida? The ones who were involved in the Elian Gonzales Cuban refugee case that effectively mobilized the Cubans against Gore in Florida?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 05:55 AM
Response to Reply #20
22. Very interesting time Carolab
Edited on Sun Mar-20-05 06:00 AM by seemslikeadream
Very interesting time indeed. Note all the tombstones in that thread. The very reason for the warning at the top of the page in 2004 Election Results and Discussion. It was a difficult time. Thanks for never giving up. It was all too hard for me. That thread was just one of many in that war. How many times did Bozo come back as someone else?
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Last Lemming Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 06:54 AM
Response to Reply #22
24. I followed the thread from Cyberlab
was excited and confused--something was there and then just. . .nothing...I was new to this website and new to the concept of message boards and blogging so I wan't sure if I had been had or not but. . .but that Cybernet stuff was horrendously strange and it always stayed with me--a sudden suicide--a disappearing wife. . .does that tie back to central tabulators?
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #24
29. there was so much to read in that Cybernet thread
I too couldn't determine if the Cybernet stuff was a hoax, a distraction, or the real thing. If there was any substance to the Cybernet story, or any fraud story, I figured Keith Olbermann would discuss it on his show.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 08:40 AM
Response to Reply #22
26. Here's your chance to have a memento from those exciting times...
The highs! The lows! Thrills and spills... Intrigue, drama, espionage, suicide, and betrayal...Never forget the rollicking good time we had back in November, 2004!

Own a piece of the DU CyberNET Experience!

Cyberco Holdings CYBERNET Auction to be held upon order of the US Bankruptcy Court. TWO DAY ONLINE AUCTION ONLY. March 23 & 25 from 8 AM to 8 PM held at www.1800lastbid.com . Auction includes hundreds of items of fine office furniture, collectibles, and equipment, possibly some vehicles, computer equipment, artwork, etc too much too list

According to the Grand Rapids Press, there is "a lot of crystal".....
http://www.mlive.com/search/index.ssf?/base/news-20/111...





I'm holding out for a CyberNET mousepad...
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 10:13 AM
Response to Reply #26
27. Thanks for the smile eowyn_of_rohan
I followed the Cybernet saga in LBN for some time. Not much interest but at least it seemed safe there!!

Scared but still here and posting





Creditors fight over CyberNET Group toys



Feds look to former CyberNET executive for help
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Ex-partner: CyberNET books long were cooked
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

CyberNET Group CEO killed during standoff
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

CyberNET widow was 'enforcer'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

FBI investigating widow of CyberNET Group CEO


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


Something to see here and I'll be moving along

I'm so glad to have met you eowyn_of_rohan, learned a bit more about myself.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 07:40 AM
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25. .
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 05:05 PM
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35. ..
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jdog Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 05:55 PM
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36. gotta kick it n/t
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 07:44 PM
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37. Another story put up today...
The hidden truth behind 2000 and 2004 Elections

Sunday, March 20, 2005

Hidden engagements. Deals for the people's identity

This is going to be a two part update. The first part of the update will be to illustrate the precise relationship that the head programmers of PeopleAggregator had with the U.S. government.

The next part of the update will include screenshots and additional sources that, in fact document their connection with this to provide widespread networking arrays that collect people's personal information.

-snip/more-

http://rigged-aggregators.blogspot.com/2005/03/hidden-e...
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:17 AM
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40. Wow. Connecting it to Curtis-Feeney-Bush (and Gutierrez and Blass)?
If Karl Rove wanted to steal the entire election, would he resort to such crude tactics as hiring a few people who would surely be caught in each state? Or would he, knowing the power of US government, engage the operation in a much more subtle way. By securing contracts through the Dept of Agriculture to datamine identities, and let a few people running the BOE log in and out corrupting the aggregators.

Each aggregator has a login time, a date timestamp, and goes through a lib file parser thread. When the PA was online, I could actually secure a login name and use a password to view the registrar. Since they took it offline, I can no longer do so. However the lib parser is corrupt. It can easily delete data due to sabatoged XML.

Connecting the dots of this crime goes back to the formula these programmers basically used, Momento-XML, a free form XML with no real parser limits of data delivery. And if you can see the shady deal in action here now, and get a disgruntled feeling....It may be time to rip into the Department of Agriculture's archived contract reports.

I am not a hacker and wouldn't suggest to anyone to hack their database. However, surely a lawyer or someone who wants this resolved could simply log in and just check the contracts. If they have not covered their tracks, the contracts for the aggregators are still intact. And that means hard evidence which could bring down the whole operation if we take the initiative.

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KOTJ Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 09:11 PM
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38. Bump. PLEASE POST IN 2004 ELECTION DISCUSSION
Edited on Sun Mar-20-05 09:12 PM by KOTJ
it really belongs in there.
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 09:18 PM
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39. Welcome to DU KOTJ! (A future moderator no doubt!)
Yeah you won't have to explain who Cliff Arnebeck is on that forum!
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 02:15 AM
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43. KOTJ
Welcome to DU :hi:
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 02:17 AM
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44. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 07:02 AM
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49. A MESSAGE FROM THE AUTHOR
He has asked me to inform everybody to:

Please click on his profile to contact him.
http://rigged-aggregators.blogspot.com /


From: code_breaker_z
To: chicanopwr
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:42:22 -0800 (PST)
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Oh for gods sake, I need your help on some damage control.

Go to Democratic Underground under your regular name, and post in the aggregator thread to just have people click my profile to contact me.

Post saying that "LatePeriduct" is just going to confuse everybody, and that you were told to state this clearly.

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RubyCat Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 07:41 AM
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50. LatePeriduct IS Rodney from the blog. He's also the original "Auditors"
and I suspect he's really Jeff Fisher.

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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 01:21 PM
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51. How do you know?
:hi: Mr. Fisher
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RubyCat Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 03:09 PM
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53. Just ask him.
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 11:52 AM
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55.  I did
From: Rodney
To: XicanoPwr
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:54:58 -0800 (PST)
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Nope. He's totally confused and I've never heard of that nonsense.

Also inform him that I have nothing to do with Jeff Fisher and that whoever has been telling him this, likely has the same thing mixed up because of Bozos for Bush.

Correct him on his comments and inform him that I have never talked to "Auditor".

-Rodney
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RubyCat Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 12:33 PM
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57. What a tangled web we weave...
Edited on Wed Mar-23-05 12:36 PM by RubyCat
Rodney, the author of the blog, claims "he's never heard of that nonsense", yet he brings up BozosForBush when no one even mentioned him.

I suggest you do a search for "CyberNet", in the weeks following the November election, and you'll know what I mean. His posts are easily recognizable in their breathless handwaving.

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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 07:02 PM
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59. I am beginning to see the light
the web is very tangled up.
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 04:53 AM
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54. LOOK
I AM NOT RODNEY. I AM NOT AUDITOR. I AM NOT JACK FISHER.


Look, my name is Schools Out alright that's who I am. I barely even knew the original "auditor" and I sure as hell didn't agree with him.

I ain't anything other than a private research investigator. I don't program, I don't do taxes, I don't belong to congress, I'm not on the board of education, and I don't know what anybody is talking about!

For the last time! My name is SO, ok, and I am telling you bozos for bush is full of it and my name is on hotmail.

systemsinline@hotmail.com, don't make me say it twice.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 02:26 PM
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52. kick
:kick:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 11:57 AM
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56. what a fungus
i knew election nite was stolen. as did a lot on this board. and people across the nation. so many pissed at kerry for conceding. see how deep, so much to find. but it is coming out. maybe soon it will be cracked and exposed. but reading this, i so see why kerry couldnt say fraud. so much we didnt know. look at all that has been found. has taken 5 months. more to find
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 06:16 PM
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58. WOW, this is interesting and scary
:kick:
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