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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:32 PM
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Randi's making a crapload of $$ for Bev Harris
A few minutes ago Randi told all of her listeners to donate $5 to Bev Harris so that she can fund an audit of the debacle on Tuesday.

I just tried to log on and can't -- so I assume that the site is overwhelmed.

Anyway, to spread the word, please go to: blackboxvoting.org
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:36 PM
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1. REMEMBER!!!! "We are ".ORG." BlackBoxVoting".COM" is a deceptively
NOTE:
We are ".ORG."
BlackBoxVoting".COM"
is a deceptively
designed site,
not affiliated
with Bev Harris,
nor with
Black Box Voting Inc.

DONATE ONLY AT Bev Harris' -- blackboxvoting.org!!! --- ".ORG."
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:38 PM
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2. We??
Who are you Zinfandel?
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:41 PM
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3. Zin is part of the BBV team .....
Like many other DUers ....
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Bozos for Bush Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 09:53 PM
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6. Why do you lie?
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 09:54 PM by Bozos for Bush
While I agree that the issue of blackbox voting is critical to turning things around and defeating this fascist enemy of ours, why do you lie about things like "blackbox.com is a deceptively designed site?

Black Box dot-com was created in January 2003 and Bev was affiliated with it.
Black Box dot-org was created in July 2003.


I mean, the dot-com site doesn't blast you guys and say that you're deceptive, etc. The guy merely lets people know that his site is not affiliated (anymore) with Bev. But your site goes out of its way to put his site down. And another thing - his site has the unabridged version of a book, and your site has an abridged version.

Now I have nothing to do with either of you - I wandered into this soap opera last week and found it fascinating. But the truth is, while part of me wants to donate a few hundred, another part of me doesn't trust you guys - because you lie. Whether it is a small lie or a big lie, you lie - right there, on your website.

Crusading should never be under false pretenses. People should crusade because it is their calling. We need you guys to fight for us in the ways you know how, just like I am part of a small group that is fighting as well each day behind the scenes in a different way - all towards the common goal of destroying this monster that is taking over our nation. If showboating is what your site is all about, it's not for me. Notice that it hasn't been updated in three days - thousands of DU people wonder how your efforts are going, and millions of good, decent folks deserve better than the election results they got, and when we go to your site, it looks just like it did early Wednesday morning.

Certainly all those people donating deserve to be kept informed?

John
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 10:05 PM
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9. bah, people's front of judea!
I can't take sides on the BBV infighting threads, but I agree that the players look amateur and a little deranged.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:40 PM
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15. Splitter!! thanks for making me laugh
Great movie.

I was actually humming "always look on the bright side of life" after we lost the election, thinking of all the people whistling it while being strung up on crosses.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:57 PM
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20. Nailed up
you mean... <s>
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:28 PM
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23. You know, I think your term "deceptively designed site" is
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 09:31 PM by Eloriel
unfair and unnecessarily provocative and inflammatory.

Let's be clear: bbv.org and bbv.com WERE once upon a time VERY allied. Yes, there was a falling out and there are bad feelings between the two camps. But it's not like David Allen was "deceptive" about anything regarding his website. To my knowledge, that's how it's looked for as long as he's had the site (which goes back to when he and Bev WERE working together).

Further, just out of curiousity, I typed blackboxvoting.com into my browser window, and guess what is right there, with the headline in HUGE type, on the very front page -- this message:


Important!
We are NOT affiliated with Bev Harris!!!

The Black Box Voting Project, Plan Nine Publishing and David Allen are no longer affiliated with Bev Harris, nor she with us. Though we continue to make the BBV book available and David Allen''s name appears on the book, any donation here is used to defray our expenses, not hers or her foundation. If you wish to help Bev out, please go to her web site, www.blackboxvoting.ORG .

As Harris is currently solicting funds and there has been some confusion, we have removed our PayPal buttons to avoid any problem. If you wish to contribute to us, send me an email for instructions, otherwise go to :

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/donate.html

-------------------

So, please. Stop with the unnecessary and unnecessarily divisive smears, 'kay?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:42 PM
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4. Excellent! Way to go Randi!
-----------------------------------------------------------
FIGHT! Take this country back one town and state at a time!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/electionreform...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 09:33 PM
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5. Kick for Bev and the Gang!
:kick:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 09:56 PM
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7. Randi said that
the site keeps crashing so do a Snail Mail to the following addy:
Black Box Voting
P.O. Box25562
Seattle, Wa

also she said to send a fax to Ralph Nader at (202)265-0092
Address letter to Nader.....saying "yes, please challenge the election results in New Hampshire"...sign your name and state "Black Box Voting Activist".

Spread it!
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 09:59 PM
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8. yeah, nader will save the day
:eyes:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:27 PM
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10. Did he do it in time? Seems to me there was but an hour left when
someone got the idea to do this.
-----------------------------------------------------------
FIGHT! Take this country back one town and state at a time!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/electionreform...
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 07:50 PM
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11. Actually, I just got a call from Nader's office
They were a little annoyed. It would have been much more helpful if you had FAXed the NH AG or the SoS instead of taking their FAX lines out asking them to do something they said they were going to do. They wanted me tell folks to stop FAXing them.

I explained this was Bev's (or at least Andy Stephenson's) idea and they needed to contact them.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:06 PM
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12. Wasn't it Ida_Briggs's idea?
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:12 PM
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13. So do we need to fax the NH Secretary Of
State now?
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:32 PM
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14. Yes, I am getting ready to post this in the GD forum
I got a call from Ralph's assistant who expressed their displeasure at having their FAX lines taken out with thousands of FAXes demanding they do something that had already announced they were doing, i.e. challenging the New Hampshire election results.

I talked with Kevin Zeese, spokesman for Nader's campaign and he said Ralph intends to pursue the recount and that they will needs financial support and any data showing discrepancies in vote totals in New Hampshire.

If you would like to contribute to Nader's effort for a recount (which will require $80,000) you can contribute here.

To let the Secretary of State for New Hampshire know of your support for the recount, you can email him at:

Elections@sos.state.nh.us

The NH attorney general can be FAXed at :

(603) 271-2110

Tell these people to let the recount happen!
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:01 PM
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21. Done.
Thanks!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:41 PM
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16. I donated through paypal fine this weekend - but -
However, I do not think it's gone too well via paypal. They only had a (47) next to their user name. Normally, that means how many times they have used Paypal, I think?

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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:48 PM
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17. What is the correct PO Box number
On Malloy's show he said it was PO Box 25552.
:shrug:
I hope it 25552 cuz that's the one I used.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:56 PM
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19. Contact info here
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/donate.html

Mail to:
Black Box Voting
PO Box 25552
Seattle, WA 98165
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:07 PM
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22. Whew okay then I used the correct address
Another post above said the PO Box was 25562.

Good thing too. It's already in the mail :thumbsup:
Thanks Plan9 for confirming :toast:
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:34 PM
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24. NO!! NO MORE FAXES TO NADER -- he's already agreed,
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 09:37 PM by Eloriel
already made the recount request (within a minute of last Friday's deadline) and any more faxes will be annoying.

Edit -- sorry, I see David Allen already covered it. (blush)
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:54 PM
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18. I kicked in $5.00 the other day.
Wish I could've given more, but my only credit card is close to being maxxed out. :eyes:
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