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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 09:57 PM
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THE WHISPERING CAMPAIGN - Stealth Activism To Wake Up The Nation
Edited on Thu Jan-01-04 10:45 PM by LunaC
With the New Year rolling in, the countdown to The Big Election ticking away and the Fate of the World hanging in the balance, it's time to wonder "Anybody think it's time to expose who Bush really is? It's time to ask What are you doing to make a difference? It's time to calmly, quietly and surreptitiously unite our collective energies towards a common goal. It's time to fight the Darkness with Truth.

This is the Whispering Campaign - an opportunity to become ACTIVELY involved in waking up the American public without drawing attention to yourself. This is a game of Political "Gossip" where the story of our Government's deception and betrayal gets passed from one villager to another until the jungle drums of discontent, rage and fury become a never-ending cacophony in the background that the media can't ignore. Anyone can play. The rules are simple: make ten copies of the rest of this post and leave it in a public place where someone else will find it and read it. Ideal locations for maximum exposure include book stores, copy shops, libraries and train stations. Buses, taxis, laundromats, and check-out lines at the grocery store. Hair salons, rest rooms, gas stations and convenience stores. Anywhere you happen to be will work just fine. Do this every week from now until November. Start the "buzz" that ends the Bush Administration......there's no excuse NOT to!

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George W. Bush constantly reminds the nation about the threat of terrorism that began with 911 but he leaves out a few important details that you should know.........

In June 1997, the Plan for a New American Century (PNAC) was born. Populated by influential Movers of industry and Shakers of public opinion, the PNAC is an organization united in the vision for a global U.S. empire - "Pax Americana" - through coercion and military domination. Their philosophy can be simply summarized:

  • There are countries to plunder and fortunes to be made. You have it, we want it. Do as we say or suffer the consequences.

  • The U.S. already has a powerful military but we plan to nurture and grow it until it's massive and we are indominable. Resistance is futile. We are.......


Dick Cheney, Jeb Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Steve Forbes, William J. Bennett, Frank Gaffney, and I. Lewis Libby, signator's - among others - of the PNAC's "Statement of Principles".

"We need to...challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values."

"We need to increase defense spending significantly if we are to carry out our global responsibilities today and modernize our armed forces for the future."

"It is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge."
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples...


JANUARY 1998 - The PNAC knew that he who owns the oil also owns the world so they sent a letter to President Clinton urging him to attack Iraq and remove Saddam Hussein from power since he put "a significant portion of the world's supply of oil at hazard". Clinton didn't grant them their wish and the PNAC was disheartened that they couldn't manipulate the military while outside of the White House power structure.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm


MARCH - APRIL 1999 - In an effort to capture and control the castle and all its warriors and weapons, the PNAC offered up members Steve Forbes, Dan Quayle and Gary Bauer to run as Republican candidates in the upcoming Presidential election.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/election/profile.htm


JUNE 1999 - Ever persistent and determined to maximize their potential for success in the Presidential campaign, the PNAC exercised their power of nepotism and member-Jeb Bush's brother George stepped up to the plate to join the race.


SPRING 2000 - The PNAC may have felt confident with their candidate's chances for winning the White House but they were absolutely smug over what they saw as a possible Fallback Plan...electronic voting machines with severe security flaws that
included hidden backdoors, erasable audit trails and multiple vote totals with the potential to propel vote tampering to new heights through the magic of remote access.

How To Rig An Election In The United States
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00065.htm

Can the votes be changed?
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/access-diebold.htm

Bettter yet, Chuck Hagel - a fellow Republican loyalist - owned the ES&S voting machine company that counted 60% of all U.S. votes. He had already won one election and was part of the U.S. Senate power team in Washington.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0301/S00166.htm

Assured that the White House would soon be theirs, the PNAC debuted their 76-page blueprint to achieve world domination. "Rebuilding America's Defenses" became the PNAC's manifesto, detailing the ideal level of military power to specifically eliminate the hostile regimes of Iraq, Iran, Syria and North Korea and it endorsed pre-emptive strikes against them, tradition be damned. Iraq was given star billing as Control Central for their Mideast base of operations.

At present the United States faces no global rival. Americas grand strategy should aim to preserve and extend this advantageous position as far into the future as possible."

"American landpower is the essential link in the chain that translates U.S. military supremacy into American geopolitical preeminence.

"We cannot allow North Korea, Iran, Iraq or similar states to undermine American leadership."

"While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein."

What is particularly foreboding and chilling in view of events to later unfold, is this statement bemoaning the lengthy process of rebuilding the existing U.S. military according to the heightened standards and specifications the PNAC aspired to.

...the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor."
http://cryptome.org/rad.htm


NOVEMBER 2000 - Saddam may have sensed an ill wind in the air when he made the first strike, turned his back on the U.S. Dollar and accepted only Euros as payment for his oil. This had the potential of seriously destabilizing the U.S. economy and
the PNAC considered this an hostile act of aggression towards their personal and business interests. The heat was on for them to make their first move.

http://www.rferl.org/nca/features/2000/11/0111200016084...


DECEMBER 2000 - In a highly contentious Presidential vote battle on the home turf of PNAC-Jeb Bush, the Supreme Court decided that George Bush was the new President.

How George W. Bush Won the 2004 Presidential Election
http://www.infernalpress.com/Columns/election.html

Bush now had the green light to seamlessly merge members of the PNAC into his Administration with no one the wiser. PNAC members elevated to the Bush hierarchy include, among others:

  • Donald Rumsfeld - Secretary of Defense

  • Paul Wolfowitz - Deputy Secretary of Defense

  • Elliott Abrams - Member of the National Security Council

  • John Bolton - Undersecretary for Arms Control and InternationalSecurity

  • Richard Perle - Chairman of the advisory Defense Policy Board

  • Richard Armitage - Deputy Secretary of State

  • John Bolton - Undersecretary of State for Disarmament

  • Zalmay Khalilzad - White House liaison to the Iraqi opposition


An Honorable Mention was awarded to Condoleezza Rice - National Security Advisor - who is a former oil-company consultant having been on the board of directors of Chevron as its main expert on Kazakhstan.

The PNAC agenda had now passed "Go". The most powerful military machine in the world stood at their ready and Saddam was in the crosshair.


"It is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge." - PNAC Statement of Principles

In May 2001 the U.S. State Department met with Iran, German and Italian officials to discuss Afghanistan. It was decided that the ruling Taliban would be toppled and a "broad-based government" would control the country so a gas pipeline could be built there.

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/7969.pdf .
http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/features/fex20867.htm


Even as plans were being made to remove the Taliban rulers from power, Colin Powell announced a $43 million "gift" to Afghanistan.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-09170...
http://www.cato.org/dailys/08-02-02.html


In July 2001, the private plot formulated in May for toppling the Taliban was divulged during the G8 summit in Genoa, Italy. Immediately after the conference, American, Russian, German and Pakistani officials secretly met in Berlin to finalize the strategy for military strikes against the Taliban, scheduled to begin before mid-October 2001

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1550366.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,55...


In September 2001 the "catastrophic and catalyzing" modern-day Pearl Harbor envisioned years earlier by the PNAC came to pass when the WTC and Pentagon were attacked. The finger of blame was pointed at Osama bin Laden, a former CIA operative with ties to Afghanistan. Suddenly, the U.S. "gift" of $43 million to the Taliban in May was cast in a new light. Coincidentally, Pakistan had participated in the plan to attack Afghanistan and the chief of Pakistan's Inter Service Intelligence agency was later linked to a 911hijacker after wiring him $100,00 just days before the WTC fell.

http://cryptome.org/rad.htm
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO109C.html
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/...

The PNAC had scored a home run with the bases loaded with the 911 event: shock, horror and fear gripped the nation, the war on "terrorism" had been established in no uncertain terms, attacking Afghanistan with public approval was a foregone conclusion and the stage was set for building a public case against Saddam.

Not one to let a good attack go to waste, Defense Secretary and PNAC-member Donald H. Rumsfeld sprung into action.

  • He told his aides to come up with plans for striking Iraq, even though Saddam wasn't linked to the attacks.

  • PNAC-James Woolsey, former CIA director, was dispatched to London to look for and 'firm up' evidence of Iraqi involvement in the 911 attacks.

  • PNAC-member and Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz was authorized to create the Office of Special Plans.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/04/september11/m...


"It is important to shape circumstances..........."- PNAC Statement of Principles

The Office of Special Plans (OSP) was a secret group of analysts and policy advisors with no status in the intelligence community who reported directly to the White House and National Security office with cherry-picked intelligence from questionable sources to support the case for invading Iraq. The OSP circumvented formal, well-established oversight procedures, ignored intelligence that didn't further their agenda, expanded the intelligence on weapons beyond what was justified and over-emphasized the national security risk. They became more influential than the C.I.A. or the Defense Intelligence Agency who didn't even know the ultra-secret OSP existed for at least a year.

Because they were based in the Pentagon, it was assumed that the OSP was an intelligence-gathering agency that was second-guessing the C.I.A. but in actuality it was the White House Military Marketing Machine charged with the task of writing the PNAC's "Get Saddam" sales pitch for the public. Shading and bending reality to suit their own purpose, it wasn't important for the OSP's stories about Saddam to be factual, only that the average American believed them to be - in true Hollywood fashion.

http://www.newyorker.com/printable/?fact/030512fa_fact

While the nation was stripped to the emotional bone and painfully vulnerable, the White House capitalized on the opportunity to reshape public perceptions and responses to conform with the PNAC's new American agenda. Rather than buoy the "can do" American spirit with optimism and hope for the future as Presidents before him had done in times of crisis, Bush spoke with an alarmist and pessimistic tone that served to perpetuate the high anxiety, excitability and fear in the populace.

To hear him speak, the world was a dark, evil and dangerous place....terrorism was here to stay....it would be a long struggle....America was helpless without the military might of the Government to keep the nation safe. The intent was to create a psychologically broken, weary and docile populace that would be easier to lead into war.

Fear became the Administration's strategic tactic for reprogramming the public into accepting the PNAC's militaristic designs. Still shell-shocked and exhausted from the enormity of the WTC and Pentagon tragedies, the public's panic shifted into frenzied over-drive when anthrax-laced envelopes arrived in government and media offices, killing five people. A perpetrator was never identified but the investigation eventually centered around the Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, one of the nation's main anthrax research centers.

Using classic "operant learning" techniques from the realm of consumer psychology, the public was purposely kept on High Alert and continually "shaped" with ominous sound bites on the nightly news and "Level Orange Terror Alerts" at regularly scheduled but discrete intervals.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/130534_focusecond...
http://www.consumerpsychologist.com/#Perception

In October 2001, with flags waving, crowds cheering, and anthems playing, the "War On Terror" and the hunt for Osama began when Afghanistan was attacked right on schedule of July's secret meeting

Immediately afterwards the PNAC and White House collaboration of "GET SADDAM" played relentlessly on televisions and in newspapers across the nation and the World as the "War on Terror" waged on and the litany of lies began.


The only terrorists we have to fear are those that occupy the White House.


VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE IN 2004



(For an on-line version of this document please visit http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... )
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 10:03 PM
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1. Uhm....wow. Thank you.
Edited on Thu Jan-01-04 10:06 PM by Atman
Excellent resource for debunking Bushista propaganda to republican apologists. Fantastic. Thanks!

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 10:15 PM
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2. Hey, a very nice post, with many good links to follow. Thanks! n/t
n/t
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 10:18 PM
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3. What I find so interesting is the
strange marriage between the neoconservative architects of PNAC and the Christian Reconstructionists who believe that the Constitution should be replaced by the Old Testament as law of the land. It looks like a brokered deal. One group can rule America, the other the world.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 12:20 AM
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9. It's been on my mind, too.
The Straussians, operating beyond morality, do what's required to build the empire, and at home the Christian Right dictate the moral order required to rule the masses.

A brokered deal.
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 10:30 PM
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4. Excellent!!
Thanks for putting in the time and sharing it.
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 10:32 PM
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5. Thank you and a suggestion
Thank you for this LunaC.

I'd like to suggest to anybody that distributes this fact sheet -- it might be useful to add to the top of the flyer a short link to the on-line version of of all these important data and links.

I tried to imagine some poor soul typing the links into the Address box of her/his browser by hand and I thought, "We have to make this easier to do!"

Maybe give them a link to this thread?

Anyway, with that in mind, it may not hurt to include an invitation to also check out the rest of Dem Underground where Freedom Still Rings!

Thanks Again LunaC!

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Timbuk3 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 10:38 PM
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6. Good suggestion, LunaC
{I'd like to suggest to anybody that distributes this fact sheet -- it might be useful to add to the top of the flyer a short link to the on-line version of of all these important data and links.}

Unless I hear an objection from someone (I'll check back, so I'll see it if there is one), I'll put a link to this thread on the fliers that leave to be found.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 10:47 PM
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7. Your wish is my command
I added the link to this page to the bottom of the post.

Good suggestion....thanks!
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 11:40 PM
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8. Great summary, great idea...shine the light of TRUTH...
We know the FACTS will lead to the TRUTH...

We already have enough in our arsenal to sink BushCo...many times over.

Now we must get it out there.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 02:36 AM
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10. "I just don't trust him."
pass it on
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PretzelzRule Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 02:39 AM
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11. Great Idea!
I've already cut-and-pasted this into Word and printed it out. You can be sure that I'll be leaving copies around town on a regular basis, not to mention keep a few on hand when the topic comes up in general conversation.

You're absolutely right, there's virtually no reason lots of us couldn't be doing this regularly....and I'm going to!

:kick:
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 06:48 AM
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12. Yes! Yes! Yes!
Thank you! This is the reaction/sentiment I was hoping for! Now how do we get more people on board? Particularly the ones who whine "But what could I possibly do?"

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PretzelzRule Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 05:50 PM
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37. Another Kick
:kick:

I handed this out to a colleague at work yesterday, who is going to 'run with it' by posting it to some other newsgroups and forums...I think this could really snowball into something very effective!

I am going to edit my Word version to add a headline. I am also going to tweak it a little by adding another link I found on another thread; it's from a conservative source, but one that is also hostile to PNAC, http://www.amconmag.com/02_24_03/cover.html . I think it may help sway some conservatives who may pick up the flyer, that they should be as concerned as we all are!

Glad to see this thread has been getting such positive responses! :hi:
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 08:24 AM
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13. If you are going to "whisper" keep it simple or few will pay attention
I like the idea with the links, but I think the narrative needs to be put into more concise, simple statements.

Like: "Plans to invade Iraq preceded 9/11 attack"
"Bush and his neocon controllers lied to American public and the Congress about WMDs"

"Bush lied and continues to lie about weapons inspectors being thrown out of Iraq. That was simply not true."

But anyone who can print up one-pagers of facts with links should do so and pass them out as suggested. Most of us know the kind of people we live around so the messages can be tailored accordingly but they message must be factual and linked to reputable sources.

GO FOR IT!!! This is one very effective way to counter the millions in lobbyist funds that Bush has added to his coffers.

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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 10:46 AM
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15. Feel free to make modifications
Tailor the piece to your own liking. The main point is to get the Truth out there.....get people wondering, asking questions, talking, arguing, debating. The name of the game is to generate "buzz".

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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 08:35 AM
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14. This is a good idea
But I would say that it will have only a slight impact and only on those that are leaning.
My guess is that the fundamentalist Christian to whom Bush has the majority of support would read the first paragraph and their eyes would glaze over. They are not used to dealing with facts of such complexity. With them KISS is essential.
I think the most effective way is to get down and dirty with them because they are going to do it to our candidate.
I would have some pamphlet titled soothing like Has Satan come to power in the US and leave it in Churches and other public places. And the pamphlet would link Bush with the satanic ritual of Scull and Bones and suggest his family had a long association with it and describe the ritual around the scull of Geronimo and how Bush Grandfather dug it up for the society.
Now this is probably beneath most of us who feel like fighting fair, but it is not beneath them to do the same against our man. And I predict they will do it and never flinch.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:00 AM
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17. Interesting angle
Are you intereasted in perhaps expanding your ideas for the Bible-belt crowd? Seriously, we could have a series of "Whisper Campaign" topics for distribution according to socio-economic-geographic background. A little something for everyone....but I'm beat after this piece and I'm hoping more people will jump in and run with the idea. So are you game to whip something up in your spare time?



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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:42 PM
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22. Yes
I could because thee is a wealth of info available. And I think we should attack his base support, just like he will attack ours.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 08:34 PM
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26. Excellent!
Having occasionally frequented right-slanted discussion groups, there's a definite need for the religious "hit" to Bush's credibility. If you could put something together, that would be great!
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 12:23 PM
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18. That's an Interesting Point
And also an unsavory thought -- to have to resort to exploiting the rampant superstition of American citizens in order to save them from themselves.

Zeemike, would you be willing to post some text for an anti-Bush Christian tract?

I have recently begun to think that these are desperate times indeed.



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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:48 PM
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23. It is not all that unsavory
And much of it is probably true in the spiritual sense. I would do my part, although I am not the best of writers, I do know a lot about the bible and spiritual things. And it would also have more impact if it came from a minister or preacher, if we could enlist them to sponsor it.
I would like to see some progressive churches get into it but I can understand how the truly religious would hate doing that.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 03:44 PM
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36. YES! I had exactly the same idea in picturing a video..
Edited on Sat Jan-03-04 03:46 PM by lostnfound
with hooded, robed men following hooded, robed Bush into burning oil fields.. carrying candles, dramatic music, etc.

Voice over..
"Thou shall have no other gods before me."

Attack him at his base constituencies.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 10:59 AM
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16. Great research and a great idea
Thanks for all you work here. Only one bone to pick, it is the "Project" for a New American Century, not "Plan" for a New American Century.

Easy enough to change after a cut and paste.

Thanks again!!
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 08:38 PM
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27. Gasp!
You're right! My anal-retentive self is blushing over the faux pas but grateful that you brought it to my attention.

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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 12:33 PM
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19. I do this often with articles I think are the most telling about this
vile regime. I will copy this one also and thanks.

BTW, don't forget to "rearrange" those Coulter,Bush at war,O'Really and Tucker Carlson rags as well as any of the other Right Wingers worthless words at your local bookstore.
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 01:18 PM
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20. freeway blogging, anyone?
In order to get out your message, you ought to consider this:

http://www.freewayblogger.com /

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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 08:55 PM
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28. Oh-oh......I'm in trouble now......
That's really a great site and it's given me an idea.......I may just start putting up signs that say "Ask Bush and his crew about the PNAC!" That will create (I'd think) a certain amount of puzzlement because nobody will know what in the hell PNAC is about. It's those "mysteries" that make people curious, including the media. I wonder what it would cost to rent a billboard next to a freeway for a month? Hmmmmmm.....if the homemade signs get attention, can you imagine the stir a mainstream, professionally-produced billboard could generate?
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 01:08 AM
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32. Yes! And you can get the signs for free!
Where I live here in texas, there are thousands of signs on the side of the road advertising all sorts of crap (you name it!). Well, these signs can only be up so long--they are supposed to be removed every Sunday. So, I am thinking about removing them myself, and painting them over and writing a progressive political message on them using a stencil set and some paint. Something anti-corporate power, anti neocon, pro-social safety net, pro-socialism, pro-voter solidarity, anti-globalist?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 01:33 PM
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21. Great compilation!
Would you please post a copy in the PNAC Links Archive in the Bush/Conservatives folder? Great stuff.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 09:24 PM
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29. Done!
Wow - that's an impressive collection of material! I definitely appreciate that you're keeping all this wonderful research/historical data all in one place.

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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:50 PM
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24. Here's the CNN story from 1998
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9802/20/iraq.war.presser /


February 20, 1998
Web posted at: 4:04 p.m. EST (2104 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A bipartisan group whose members are prominent in U.S. international policy circles called on President Clinton Friday to go beyond a military strike on Iraq and to help overthrow Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and replace his regime with a provisional government

----

While it's no secret the Clinton administration would welcome the removal of Hussein from power, it is against federal law for the U.S. government to assassinate a head of state.

In addition, the administration considers the proposal announced Friday as too expensive -- in military commitment and overall cost -- and too difficult to justify in international forums such as the United Nations.
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:55 PM
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25. Another PNACer in the Bush administration:
"Donald Rumsfeld - Secretary of Defense
Paul Wolfowitz - Deputy Secretary of Defense
Elliott Abrams - Member of the National Security Council
John Bolton - Undersecretary for Arms Control and InternationalSecurity
Richard Perle - Chairman of the advisory Defense Policy Board
Richard Armitage - Deputy Secretary of State
John Bolton - Undersecretary of State for Disarmament
Zalmay Khalilzad - White House liaison to the Iraqi opposition"

Don't forget I. Lewis Libby, Chief of Staff for the Vice President.

Nice article, I think using stuff like this is much more effective than just calling these people 'neocons.'
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plaguepuppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:15 PM
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30. Bump for the newcomers to DU and widespread PNAC
And by way of postdoctoral studies in conspiracy theory:

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/ericbart/index.html

http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/wtc7.html

http://www.wtc7.net /

http://home.comcast.net/~jeffrey.king2/wsb/html/view.cg...

Black box warning:

The views and or information found in these links probably don't represent those of the Democratic Party, Underground, DU mods etc.
May cause serious anhedonia or dearth. Read at your own risk.
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:22 AM
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31. I like the idea so much, I'm kicking it!
Kick, kick, kick
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 01:44 PM
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33. In fact, I think it should be pinned
So I'm kicking it again.
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plaguepuppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 02:46 PM
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34. And a kick to grow an inch!
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 02:54 PM
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35. I've been screaming it out loud...
I was a big hit at my buddy Bill's Christmas Party - I set out the whole case. By the end I had a house full of converts. They had never heard of PNAC, never thought about the oddities and unanswered questions of 9-11...

People will learn the truth, let's just hope it's sooner rather than later.

Time is of the essence...
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plaguepuppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 09:58 PM
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38. Time is of the essence...
One more kick just because the time really critical, and good information is so important...



Only more bear jumps until impeachment!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 10:18 PM
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39. Wow Luna!
Rock on! Great post, now added to my bookmarks.

:toast:

Julie
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 02:48 PM
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40. Let's keep this going
until there are thousands upon thousands of these copies floating around.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 03:34 PM
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41. This is perhaps the most powerful document showing
what I already thought to be true.

One more thing you could add: when was the Patriot Act first written? Wasn't it before 9/11? I'm trying to find links but have been unsuccessful.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 05:39 PM
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42. The first piece
I wrote included tons of additional criminal evidence, including the following paragraph about the Patriot Act:

October 2001 - Distracted by wall-to-wall coverage of Afghanistan and without Congressional debate, hearings, or public review, the Patriot Act was ram-rodded into law so quickly that many in Congress reacted with a knee-jerk vote of approval without reading the summaries, let alone the fine print. These are some of its dangerous provisions:

Non-citizens can be detained and deported if they provide "assistance" for lawful activities of any group the government chooses to call a terrorist organization. Under this provision the secretary of state can designate any group that has ever engaged in violent activity as a terrorist organization. Representative Patsy Mink notes that - in theory - supporters of Greenpeace could now be convicted for supporting terrorism.

Immigrants can be detained indefinitely, even if they are found to not have any links to terrorism. They can be detained indefinitely for immigration violations or if the attorney general decides their activities pose a danger to national security. They never need to be given a trial or even a hearing on their status.

Internet service providers can be ordered to reveal the web sites and e-mail addresses that a suspect has communicated to or visited. The FBI need only inform a judge that the information is relevant to an investigation.

It "lays the foundation for a domestic intelligence-gathering system of unprecedented scale and technological prowess." It allows the government to access confidential credit reports, school records, and other records, without consent or notification. All of this information can now be given to the CIA, in violation of the CIA's mandate prohibiting it from spying within the US.

Financial institutions are encouraged to disclose possible violations of law or "suspicious activities" by any client. The institution is prohibited from notifying the person involved that it made such a report. The term "suspicious" is not defined, so it is up to the financial institutions to determine when to send such a report.

Federal agents can easily obtain warrants to review a library patron's reading and computer habits (see also January 2002).

The government can refuse to reveal how evidence is collected against a suspected terrorist defendant.


http://www.unansweredquestions.net/timeline/main/timeli...

Essentially, due process was relinquished, criminal investigations became intertwined with aspects of immigration and foreign intelligence laws and the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendments were violated.


Unfortunately, the first piece was 20 pages long and too intimidating a tome for most people to tackle. So I shortened it to the excerpt posted above.

I don't know exactly when the Patriot Act was first hatched, but it's obvious that it was waiting in the wings long before 911.

While I'm at it, let me include another "tidbit" for October 2001:

Disturbingly, "there are indications that nukes may have been dropped on Afghanistan. According to Canada's Uranium Medical Research Center, tests conducted on Afghan civilians suggest that:

"Some form of uranium weapon had been used...The results were astounding:
the donors presented concentrations of toxic and radioactive uranium
isotopes between 100 and 400 times greater than in the Gulf War veterans
tested in 1999." www.umrc.net

"The results also confirmed that the toxic radiation was not attributable to
heavy metal' depleted uranium ammunition (DU was used abundantly during
Gulf War I), but to another unidentified form of uranium contamination."


http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO307C.html

Apparently the level of censure associated with weapons of mass destruction is directly contingent upon who is using them.


I'm thinking of writing a short piece that addresses the statement above.

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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:22 PM
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43. The draft rumors
for 2005 are perfect for a whispering campaign- draft is the "poison pill" for any Bush 2nd term hopes.
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General Discontent Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 07:47 PM
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44. Excellent work!
Kickety kick!


:kick:

DWolfman
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