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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:49 AM
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Poll question: Are you glad Hussein has been captured? Gut reactions here.
Somebody had to do this poll . . .

We are just talking about the capture--no other issues. You know what Freepervillains are saying about our feelings on the matter; let's have the truth out right here.

There is no "Other" for a reason--like I said, I want gut reactions on this single issue only.
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:50 AM
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1. There are at least two completely insane people here
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 11:52 AM by snoochie
I'm HOPING those saying they're sorry Saddam was captured (WTF?!!!!) are freeper interlopers.

Also I'd like to say I voted that I'm glad, for the sake of our troops who will hopefully suffer fewer attacks, and for those Iraqis who suffered under his regime.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:51 AM
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Nope, those are the same Freepers who vote for Bush in other polls
We'll always have those Freepers on these polls.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:58 AM
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13. What if a DUer thought they felt sorry?
You've just accused DUers of being freepers and that is uncalled for by DU's own rules, and people have had posts deleted in the past for even slightly implying that.

Saddam's gone, I could care less. There's a bigger threat sitting in the Oval Office, and he'll re-start his mouthing off about North Korea and the "pygmy" leader any day now (good way to show you're a man of peace, George :eyes: ), goading them, rigging a situation and waiting to nuke the country when the chance comes.

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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:01 PM
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22. Read it again
I didn't 'accuse them' of being freepers -- I said I HOPED they were. Because to have Democrats saying they're sorry he's been captured would lead me to advise them to check their heads.
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ErasureAcer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:05 PM
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27. you should check your head
let's say Dennis Kucinich is president...would we want someone attacking us and instating their government just because they disagreed that we had weapons of mass destruction(which I believe Iraq didn't have)?

Of course not.

We should show the same respect to the rest of the world and Saddam Hussein.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:27 PM
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:00 PM
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41. Let me try to say this more calmly
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 02:08 PM by snoochie
The capture of Saddam was the result of an illegal invasion I did not agree with and still belive was wrong and immoral.

HOWEVER, look at it this way.

Say a thief breaking into a house catches a man trying to murder his wife and stops him and helps the wife contact authorities. Should we not be glad the murderer was caught, simply because he was caught by another criminal? Yes, this is a stretch because the theif probably wouldn't be a part of reporting it to the police, but I hope you get the drift.

A tyrant has been captured and that is a good thing. Dennis Kucinich will cheer his capture as well. Justice is justice.

This does not justify the invasion, but the invasion does not make his capture unjust.
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ErasureAcer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:03 PM
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25. you just called me a freeper when I support the same candidate as you
If you have any respect for international law, you'd be against Saddam's capture. He may be an evil man but he should be allowed to run his country the way he wishes to run it.

If you're happy about his capture...you are pretty much happy that we had the war(we wouldn't have captured him otherwise).

There is NO good from this war...only suffering.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:29 PM
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:55 PM
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37. dupe
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 12:57 PM by Uzybone
dupe
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:56 PM
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38. Good strong liberal you are
He may be an evil man but he should be allowed to run his country the way he wishes to run it.

First of he was an evil man so lets get that fact right. And you really believe that its ok for any dictator to run "thier" country anyway the feel like.

Newsflash international law has already been broken and is still being violated. Capturing Saddam has no effect on that. The horse has long left the barn.
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:05 PM
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44. I did not call you a freeper
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 02:09 PM by snoochie
I said no such thing. I said I HOPED those people would be freepers, because it pains me to see such ridiculous sentiments posted by Democratic people.

International Law is great, but so is Saddam being captured.

"If you're happy about his capture...you are pretty much happy that we had the war(we wouldn't have captured him otherwise)."

I disagree. To use the example I gave above, I would not be happy that the thief broke into the house, but I would be happy that he ws no longer a threat to his wife.

"There is NO good from this war...only suffering."

Are you so desperate to believe that that you resent the capture of someone as evil as Saddam?

I really can't believe that people on this board are talking about him being 'demonized'. He's not a good guy, folks. Just because we're against bush that does not mean we're for Saddam.

Or at least that's what I believed... maybe all those right wing talking heads were more right than I thought! :(

I think many, many Iraqis and even other Arabs in the region would disagree that this is not a good thing.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:50 AM
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2. It's great!
Now we need to capture his enablers like Reagan, Cheney, Rumsfield, and Poppy.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:58 PM
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39. Capturing Reagan at this point would be useless
Let the poor old bastard die in peace - Or what little peace you can have when your brain turns to mush. Alzheimer's isn't a pretty way to go. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (and Ronnie ranks fairly high on that list).

Besides, eternity in Hell still waits for him.

Now Poppy, on the other hand - he should be Saddam's cellmate.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:51 AM
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3. I'm sorry because
The Iraqi people had to live under Husseine and now they are worse off with Bush. I'm sorry for the American people who have to live under Bush. I'm pissed.
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:54 AM
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5. I disagree strongly
They're not worse off with Bush. No way, no how.

Saddam only represented a small fraction of the people there. The rest he could care less about.

Bush may be evil in the eyes of a lot of people here, but he is no Saddam. You're embarassing yourselves.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:58 AM
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15. Your crazy
And welcome to DU. This place isa perfect for you! :dem:
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:52 AM
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4. Glad. This is my honest gut reaction.
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 11:54 AM by cindyw
I hope that it means a beginning to the end of the attacks on our soldiers. I'm afraid it will not though.

edited to add word GLAD. As if you guys know how I voted.:bounce:
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:54 AM
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6. I'm glad.
But really this is a lot like the "Master's Appresntice" sequence in "Fantasia," where the brooms get out of Mickey's control...This Asshole never should have been enabled by our Govt. in the first place to take power. Great, the brooms are back in the closet. Now what have we learned?
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:54 AM
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7. I am glad
Hussein was captured, but my tinfoil hat is asking, "How long has he been in that hole and who put him there?
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:55 AM
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8. who are you, Judy Woodruff?
trying to catch democrats at being unpatriotic?

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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:55 AM
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9. Of course
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 11:56 AM by quinnox
and I have to say it is mainly for selfish reasons involving the stock market, as well as the noble reasons.
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jonoboy Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:56 AM
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10. and you are living in the realms of fantasy
if you think that the entire Iraqi nation is going to give up their efforts to evict the US invaders from their land. These people have nothing to lose and everything to gain..if anything this is a disaster for the US army. To see Saddam loOking almost pitiful ( I said looking not IS)will just empower them even more
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:01 PM
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21. Those people are not necessarily his people
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 12:01 PM by Independent429
Any nation who is occupied by a foreign nation will try to overthrow their occupiers. The USofA did it to Britain with a largely guerilla war.

on edit: spelling
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:57 AM
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11. getting Saddam is good, and I'm happy... but Bush still sucks
... Bush could cure cancer and I'd still hate him.
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:59 AM
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17. Unless you or a loved one had cancer
:)
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:01 PM
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23. That would be a case of loving the science
but hating the scientist.

:evilgrin:
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:57 AM
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12. Now the BFEE will have to "fish or cut bait" for a new Bogeyman.
How they gonna keep the Faithful whipped up now that they have taken their bogeyman out of circulation?
Will the focus now turn to Osama-WHO?

I'm GLAD they got Hussein. You folks who say "well, he wasn't any threat to ME..." are missing the point slightly. Saddam Hussein enabled the BFEE to keep this country whipped up with a big throbber for WAR.
Who are they gonna scare us with now that Saddam's on ice? I'll bet Krystol and the rest of his PNAC circle-jerkers never thought THIS one through, either.
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a_lil_wall_fly Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:58 AM
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14. I'm glad but with grave reservations about it....
This has giving the talking house plant some serious ammunition here at home. Now that SH is captured--the acceleration of the war-profitteering will cripple the Iraqi people.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:59 AM
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:05 PM
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26. You're WAY missing the point
The question is not 'who thinks this justified the invasion'.

"I won't cry for you when you're being bombed."

Are you sure you're supporting the right candidate? :wow:
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ErasureAcer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:12 PM
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29. Yes we're supporting the same candidate
Dennis Kucinich. A man who respects international law and doesn't think we should be capturing leaders to other nations.

If you're happy Saddam is caught...obviously you're happy the war took place. We wouldn't have captured him otherwise.

I think you should support John "I'm PROUD we caught Saddam" Kerry.

He wanted to capture Saddam too.

It is tough to cry for people when they promote hate. Just like Saddam...I'm not crying for him either. But I don't think he deserved to be attacked.

You on the otherhand...happy that we've invaded a nation and took their leader capture. Well, when the terrorists come to get you...I won't shed a tear. How can I feel sorry for you when you cheered the outcome of you doing it to someone else?

Hypocrisy in its finest form.

There is no good from capturing Saddam...he was never a threat to us or our allies. I can not take pleasure in his capture because of this. If you disagree with this...you are supporting the wrong candidate.
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:33 PM
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34. This is sickening
I can't wait to hear Kucinich's response.

Your insistence that anyone who is glad Saddam was caught therefore supports the war is ridiculous.

You sit there and accuse me of being happy we invaded... clueless... absolutely clueless.

"How can I feel sorry for you when you cheered the outcome of you doing it to someone else?"

Dude, you're reeeally treading thin ice. Kucinich is about peace. If you sit there and say that people deserve to be bombed or killed for any reason: YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT.

Think about what you're saying.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:59 AM
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18. I'm more surprised than anything
This still begs the question about why we invaded in the first place. Conquering the country, killing Iraqis, capturing Saddam--it all only has meaning because the Bushies tell us so. By what authority do we invade and occupy another country and arrest its citizens?

The American media will never ask this or any other of the right questions.
He was never a threat to me or any other American (at least until the Bush GOPNAC Cabal invaded), so his capture is inconsequential. I'll go about my family and holiday activities today as usual.

This is so early in the camapign that htey'll need to "capture" Osama sometime in the late summer next year.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:00 PM
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19. "Mission Accomplished". Chimpy flys to Baghdad to slap on the handcuffs,
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 12:04 PM by oasis
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AG78 Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:00 PM
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20. How could you not be glad
But his capture doesn't make too much difference. The global game will continue with or without Hussain.
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Astarho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:02 PM
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24. I feel neither sad nor happy
I really don't feel anything about this. It does not effect my life (other than the shit I have watch on TV and see Dumbass's approval ratings shoot up).

As for another gut reaction, it tells me that his capture was not worth the thousands of dead Iraqis and the hudreds of US dead and thousands of US wounded.

However, this will not stop the resistance, like I said from the beginning, they are not fighting for Saddam, they are fighting against us!
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:06 PM
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28. I'm glad as hell that he was captured.
I wish that they'd gotten him in April.
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ErasureAcer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:20 PM
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30. kick
because I'm owning Snoochie in our debate.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:30 PM
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33. I'm happy and very sad
I'm happythat Saddam is finally caught (even though he wasn't much of a threat in a hole in Tikrit.).

I'm sad that the news media is going to saturate us with Sadam news and history.

I'm sad bush will prop up Sadam as a trophy while still ignoring Bin Laden.

I'm sad that the war in Iraqi is going to be labeled "
mission accomplished" even though the already high death toll is going to rise (and for what purpose to find Santa in a hole?).

I'm sad that the news media will drool all over the pictures of Sadam getting his teeth checked and ignore domestic situations in America which are actually important.

I'm sad that Sadam wasn't sitting in the hole with the WMD.
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:47 PM
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35. I'm happy because it ends 1 phase of this war - the search for Saddam
but I'd be happier if I thought the troops would be coming home or the killing would stop...I think we could now enter the next phase of this conflict where Iraqis redouble their efforts to get rid of US.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:51 PM
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36. How can anyone be sorry
that Saddam is captured??? I understand indifference as disgusting as that is, but I cant understand why anyone would regret that Saddam is toast. Can anyone who feels sorry that he has been captured explain why?
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:00 PM
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40. My reaction
I am: (1) surprised Saddam is still alive, (2) ashamed that the U.S. supported him for years, (3) sad about all the death and destruction, (4) sickened by the hypocrisy and lies, (5) angry at the stupidity of what I'm hearing on TV right now the people who are sucking it up, and (6) disgusted at the prospect of the trial and how it will be used.

In sum, I hate George Bush more than I hated him yesterday.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:01 PM
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42. It kinda feels like I dont care
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 02:03 PM by Kamika
Does ppl honestly care.. Its like:

hes captured.. great.. now lets talk about MJ


Understand how I'm feeling here its hardly what I'd feel if it had been 1945 and we had captured Hitler.. its just a big "bleh" feeling.

This is a guy we most likely would have kept supporting if he had been our "ally".
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:03 PM
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43. I don't care
It's nice he's been caught.
He was an evil man in a sea of evil men.
He was no threat to the US.
He wasn't worth wasting one life to capture.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:06 PM
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45. One less excuse for the administration.
Why Iraq continues to be a hell hole.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:20 PM
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46. Oh right. Like we care what the freepers think!
We don't even allow them here to express their vile thoughts and now we should care what they think?

I'm just glad I'm still a natural Brunette.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:21 PM
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47. I don't care one way or the other, but...
that's not really the whole story.

I am glad they didn't just shoot him.

I still don't see why WE had to go in there and destroy the country to get him.

I hope they don't Noriega him and he has his day in a proper court for proper justice.

I can't decide whether 24 hours of Saddam is better or worse than 24 hours of Michael Jackson.

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