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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:59 PM
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Democrat in place of Democratic?
Am I the only one who has noticed that during the past few years, the term "Democrat" is being used when the correct term should be "Democratic"? (Examples: "Democrat Party", "Democrat Minority") It sounds less respectful (not to mention that they can emphasize the "rat" part at the end) and bugs me whenever I hear it. Has anyone else noticed this?
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 05:02 PM
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1. It's Coming From The Republic Party
F*ckers.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 05:03 PM
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2. actually democrat is correct
and it makes me a little grinchy when i people use democratic rather than democrat. democrats are the democrat party not the democratic party -- it's not demeaning -- it's correct.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 05:05 PM
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9. No it is the Democratic Party and members are Democrats...that is correct
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 05:06 PM
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12. Uhh....
It's the Democratic National Committee
(www.democrats.org )

In my state, it's the Democratic Party of Wisconsin
(www.wisdems.org )

This is the Office of the Democratic Whip:
(http://democraticwhip.house.gov )

Is everyone wrong? :shrug:

"Democrat" is a noun.
"Democratic" is a verb.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 10:18 AM
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17. Oy. "Democratic" is an adjective.
Too late to edit.
:dunce:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 05:08 PM
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13. You are mistaken, xchrom
In fact, there was a time long-ago when the Busheviks were actually called the Republican Party. In those ancient days, they actually referred to it as the Democratic Party.

But that was back in the days when America was still spelled with a 'c' and the American People actually had a say in electing their National Leaders.
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 05:03 PM
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3. It's those darn "republics"
Someone from the dark side thought it would be cute to call Dems "democrats." Now all the idiot ditto-heads are snickering as they fall all over themselves to toe the company line.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 05:03 PM
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4. No, you're not the only one
They've been doing this on purpose for awhile. Even some news commentators are starting to do it (well, Fox commentators, anyway).

Bugs me, too. I complain when I hear it from someone who should know better.

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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 05:05 PM
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10. thanks for the welcome
I thought this was intentional (seemed to start around the time of Newt) but now at least I know it's also correct.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 05:21 PM
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16. Woodruff did it at the CNN debate
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 05:04 PM
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5. I think that's a sensitive point for most of us
I don't mind it actually, because it gives away the speakers proclivities and renders their psyops useless. Not that they would have succeeded anyway.

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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 05:04 PM
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6. Oh yes
It is one of my worst pet peeves. Republics ;-) have taken to doing this often, and I even see DUers making the same mistake. "Democrat" emphasizes the "rat" ending, while "Democratic" is reflects on our proud system of government. It's no wonder the Republics want to break that association.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 05:04 PM
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7. This is one that doesn't bother me
Democrat, Democratic, whatever they want to call it.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:01 PM
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22. Yeah, but I find it annoying
When I hear people say, "The Democrat Senator...". It sounds harsh and disrespectful. Especially when they say "The DemocRAT", accenting the RAT.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 05:05 PM
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8. I've noticed it too
Edited on Fri Nov-14-03 05:07 PM by sparosnare
aside from sounding funny; it's grammatically incorrect. The word Democrat is a noun. Party is a noun. They two don't go together. Democratic is the correct word as it is an adjective describing Party and correct.
The word Republican doesn't follow that rule, unfortunately. It can be used as either a noun or adjective.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 05:06 PM
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11. This is from the same family of slurs as "Jew Lawyer"
Take an adjective...reconjugate it into it's noun form. Use it as noun in place of adjective (this doesn't work with ethinicites or groups where the noun and adjective are the same, such as 'Russian')

Jewish Laywer; Jew Lawyer

Democratic Lawyer; Democrat Lawyer

See, the same thing...by the same type of Totalitarians (v2.0 -- the "kinder and gentler" version), in fact...
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 05:09 PM
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14. Excellent point
Appears to be exactly what's intended (slur).
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 05:10 PM
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15. I Heard it Started During the McCarthy Era
If so, it figures. It's one slur that guaranteed to put my teeth on edge.

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:



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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:56 AM
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19. Tom Paine - that's interesting (nt)
nt
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mcd1982 Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:46 AM
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18. Not sure when it started...
but the Rs used to say "There is nothing Democratic about the Democrat(ic) party."
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:58 AM
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20. I've heard Bob Dole started it.
Whenever I hear someone say, "Democrat Party," my opinion of the speaker
plummets.

One thing I like about Dan Quayle was that at least he says "Democratic Party."
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:00 PM
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21. Frist said it the other day
In his "wrap-up" speech before the cloture votes. Twice I heard him refer to the "Democrat Senators". I was a tad annoyed.
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Isere Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:10 PM
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23. This is one of my major gripes!
And the worst part of it are the Democratic party members who sit on the talk show panels and let the Rethugs refer to the "Democrat party" with utter impunity!

What needs to happen is for Dems to wake up and demand respect! Whenever they hear this slur they need to speak out immediately! What's wrong with saying, "EXCUUUUUUSE ME! But the correct name is the Democratic Party and you are being disrespectful!"

If anyone here has an "in" with the DNC, I wish they would contact them and tell them we are sick of being disrespected!

Enough already!
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