Black Box: A plea for mirror space -- from "Make My Day"
As you may know, Jim March posted a mini-stash of Diebold files. Over 750 posts at Slashdot and articles all over the place drove so much traffic there he surpassed the original Diebold download traffic (New Zealand) in just 20 hours!
This has already had an amazing result. We've just had three very, very large media hits and many more small ones. And, A NEW SOURCE SURFACED -- see below for a sample of the kind of information such activities can generate.
2. An example of the kinds of sources that are coming forward:
Edited on Fri Sep-05-03 05:37 PM by BevHarris
This internal memo was passed along by an inside source, not Robert Chen. Remember, Diebold says that both the GEMS machine and the touch screens are connected to nothing!
Yes, this shows there is something dangerous going on with connectivity. First, it shows that they were using uncertified software. At that time, the certified GEMS version was 1.17.17. And as for ability to get in and upload files, consider very carefully the implications of the sentence in bold:
Found something interesting here in Alameda County, and want to see if anyone has found this in the field. Especially those of you who are doing AVTS (we don't do AVOS) modem upload from the precincts.
Running: BS 4.3.11 GEMS 1.18.14 NT 4.0 6a
I am dialing the central computer's bank of modems (connected via Digi PCI X/em) and connecting to NT's Remote Access Server. I have assigned a ip pool (188.8.131.52 to 220) and the AVTS with PCMCIA card modems dial in okay, and make a connection with the RAS server. I can see the assigned ip address to the incoming AVTS unit. However, when I try uploading, it gives and error: "no connection to host". Yes, I have confirmed the HOST name and tried the IP address.
I tried pinging the AVTS unit and only get timeouts. I then tried simulating the connection with my laptop and was able to successfully upload. I was also able to ping my laptop from the server and vice versa.
At this point, I do not think, despite the port information displayed by RAS Server, that the AVTS was taking the ip address.
I am sure I am probably doing something wrong and would appreciate some enlightenment.
the talked about ip block is owned by. OrgName: Alameda County Data Processing OrgID: ACDP Address: 1221 Oak Street Address: Rm 17B City: Oakland StateProv: CA PostalCode: 94612 Country: US I'm assuming the terminals dialup a modem in central office in alameda county and establish a ppp or slip connection with their local network. It is insane to think they would have these things connect to the internet no matter what kind of security procedurs they take people can get around them.
This memo isn't necessarily describing a system that connects to the internet. Many LANs use TCP/IP addressing just like the internet does. He sounds to me to be describing a situation where, from his office PC, he could dial into the server but not connect to the network. Then, perhaps on site as part of a service call, he could simulate that connection. The e-mail seems to be asking for some ideas on how to fix the problem with standard dial-up.
This is big stuff Bev, either way. Just being able to dial into this system is dangerous enough. I just wanted to suggest that it is not necessarily an internet based connection.
On edit, my business has been late in putting together a web site. I get cold calls all the time but don't know jack shit about it, who's any good, what I need, what costs are involved, etc. Any DUers in the Chicago area do the small business web site thingy?? Maybe kill two birds with one stone here, tho I am sure it wouldn't be up and running very quickly.
44. If you have a high-outbound-speed DSL line (most aren't) +
lots of disc space + a good Unix system such as FreeBSD, you can put up an FTP site and host the files. FreeBSD (and probably Linux) have FTP server software inbuilt -- all you need do is set the permits correctly and suddenly you're serving files.
The main problem for you would be the A(symmetric)DSL, if that's what you have--and you probably do. ADSL almost always has (a) dynamic IP address allocation, which makes running a server all but impossible and (b) a bandwidth split that makes inbound traffic (e.g. when you're reading DU) much faster than outbound traffic (e.g., posting). If you can get a fixed IP address and an SDSL line, you could easily host the mirror.
4. I have posted the San Luis Obispo file DOWNLOAD HERE:
Edited on Fri Sep-05-03 05:51 PM by BevHarris
This is a nasty little situation -- Diebold posted a live election file on its web site. The file is stamped 3:31 in the afternoon on election day. I posted it-- it is 101,000 kb Microsoft Access file.
It is more easily viewable when combined with the GEMS program, also a whopper of a download.
One thing that you might propose to Jim March is dividing up and having several people do a couple files each.
And by the way Diebold, yes, I POSTED THAT FILE IT'S ON MY WEB SITE. Got ahead, complain. Then explain to me why you stole a live vote database from San Luis Obispo County during the middle of an election and put it on your company web site.
I don't mind, I have the free space on my hard drive. Or, is this just for people who are actually geeks and know what to do with it. I can download, burn onto a cd, send somewhere else if it will help at all, or just store for later use.
Last night I downloaded but something went wrong and the file seems to have disappeared (anyone else have this problem?) Is there any way you can zip it and upload it, and we can download the zip file? Those of us without DSL would appreciate it!
I need to know if any other software aside from Access can view these databases. I'm preparing a demo for our local newspaper, but I don't know if they have Office (they likely do), and I myself do not have it either- and I'm not going to buy it just for this one, specific purpose.
Is Access the only software that can read these databases?
Oh, by the way- I've downloaded the whole shebang, ALL the Diebold files I can find. I'm perfectly willing to offer these via Gnutella.
14. Yup. The web server kicked BlackBoxVoting.org off for good
Edited on Fri Sep-05-03 07:30 PM by BevHarris
I talked them into keeping it up until Sunday (they won't even grant me a weekday). Their reason: They are invoking an anti-spam rule they have in the following strange way -- "if a web address appears in a press release sent by a publicity firm, even if that publicity firm is a separate company with a separate account entirely, and even if the list is an opt-in list for reporters who have specifically asked to be emailed press releases, that "violates their spam policy."
Right. They say someone complained. Who? A reporter? I've been in the business for years, and I can tell you that a reporter complaining to a WEB SERVER for a web address in a press release (but not contacting the return address that goes to the publicist who sent it) -- doesn't happen, sorry. They wouldn't tell me who wanted to be removed, either. Right. This can only be politically motivated, probably by either a ClearChannel affiliate or an Internet political publication.
I asked this: So what if another web site entirely, BlackBoxVoting.COM, which is not from your server hires a publicist from a PublicityAdvisor.com, also not your server, and the press release contains only the address of the .COM site, not the .org -- will you still kick the .org site off?
Their answer: Yes. You're otta here.
Think we are getting on someone's last nerve about now?
13. Bev - would peer to peer be a viable way to distribute these?
I'm not an expert, but from things my son has said to me, it sounds as though BitTorrent might serve well for distributing files of this sort.
With peer to peer, you don't need to have a website to host files -- you just put them on your hard drive in a shared folder. The more people who have the same file available, the less of a bandwidth burden there is on any one of them. The download information is the only thing that does have to be on a website -- but that's trivial.
If it sounds interesting to you, let me know and I'll grab my son for more details.
Here's how Bittorrent works. It effectively sets up a peer to peer network for a few files at a time; one that allows uploading from incomplete files, enforces uploads from everyone downloading, and allows people with completed download to hook in and add their upload capacity at any point.
To set it in motion, you need to do two things on your own, set up a tracker and create a torrent. The tracker is a program with access to the Net that coordinates the file sharing. The torrent file is a very small file which you put up on a website that contains information about the file to be shared and points to the tracker. When someone clicks on the torrent it connects them to the tracker, which in turn connects them with all the computers running that torrent. Because it allows for hundreds of people to combine their upload capacity it can create very high speeds, and since everyone downloading is also uploading at the same time, the more people try to get the file the larger the total capacity becomes.
Bittorrent is specifically designed for the distribution of large and high demand files, and does a very good job of it IMO.
Edit: The bitrorrent program needed to connect into the network is very small and easy. IIRC, it's less then a meg in size, and runs easily in the background on a computer. A link to the official site next to the torrent file link would let everyone hook in easily.
What total aggravation and even danger for your convictions and courage. I wish I was not so stupid on techie things to help. All I can say is, girl, you got guts. Power and love to all of you who are working so hard to help all of us.
schmuck with broadband to make real peer-to-peer availability work. these files should be shared by everyone who knows about this and has a high speed connection. it's easy and doesn't require much other than leaving your computer on. i won't insult anyone by arrogantly presuming they don't have a good firewall.
if you're concerned about leaving a file-sharing program running continuously, and hogging admittedly precious bandwidth, i would recommend only sharing the GEMS-related files in their own directory. turn all your other sharing off.
if you have a high speed connection but aren't familar with gnutella-net and its various clients, but would like to help (insert :)), you can pick from several very good and easy-to-configure ones:
30. There is a CD distribution going on -- notify any of the activists
Edited on Sat Sep-06-03 01:46 AM by BevHarris
by PM and they'll probably help you out with this. Need mailing address.
I don't do it because I don't even mail birthday cards to my mother, much less this. I'd procrastinate until next summer. But the grapevine says there is a distribution set going out with the whole Jim March instructions and everything.
PM any of the activists also if you like to burn CDs and enjoy standing in line at the post office. According to the phone calls I'm getting, these things have escaped into the wild and have already migrated out of California like a swarm of killer bees.
Many folks, many places.
I like this term: "exponential growth." Anyone know what it means?
I'm totally convinced that if we get the right to vote in this country again, it's going to be because of the work you guys are doing here.
I'm unable to help with the computer processes -- hell! I haven't even figured how to e-mail photos yet! -- but I follow these threads every day. This is the most important stuff in my entire world right now, because I know what's riding on it.
Looking back, I'm more and more convinced that, SOMEHOW, people (and probably Bush family & associates) have been f*&^ing with our elections for a long time, and that they just figured out that this type of voting machine would just make it all so much easier and more manageable. I think they figured there were fewer risks of detection.
They are about to have their little party crashed by some serious AMERICAN PATRIOTISM....and I don't mean the mindless flag-waving kind.
Blessings and protection to all who are working on this!!
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