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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:47 PM
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Know your BFEE: Oliver North, Drug Dealer
The man who wrote the following was a DEA agent, stationed in Central America. Celerino "Cele" Castillo witnessed Ollie North's people unloading guns and loading cocaine for the trip North (no pun intended). The testimony also shows why the pukes hate the guy who has the goods on them -- John Kerry.


By Celerino "Cele" Castillo, 3rd
Former Federal Drug Agent and Author of:
Powderburns- Cocaine, Contras & the Drug War


Several years ago, the extreme right arm of the Christian Coalition selected to support Oliver North for U.S. Senate. Their support backfired and North became one of two Republicans who lost the elections that year. During North's campaign, I traveled to the Virginia to educate concern citizens on Oliver North. I went out to "grassroots" communities, and educated them on the criminal activities that Oliver North had been involved in during the 1980s. I went as far as challenging North to a debate. Of course, he refused.

During his failed 1994 campaign, he frequently claimed that there was no basis for any charges of his complicity in drug running, because as he keeps saying, "I'm the most investigated man on this planet." The truth of the matter is that the Iran-Contra special prosecutor, Lawrence Walsh, never investigated the drug trafficking allegations, because he did not consider it part of his mandate. The special prosecutor's original mandate from Congress was defined very narrowly, concentrating on the Iranian arms sales, the "diversion" of funds from the Iranian arms sales to the Contra operation, and on the Contra support operation as a violation of U.S. law.

During all the misdirected hoopla about Iran-Contra, the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee (known as the "Kerry committee") continued its work. Jack Blum, an investigator for Senator Kerry, testified to the committee on Feb. 11, 1987 that the Contras move drugs "not by the pound, not by the bag, but by the ton, by the cargo planeloads."

In 1987, Henry Hyde, as a member of the congressional Iran-contra committee and a defense attorney, helped steer the panel away from any serious investigation of the contra-cocaine connection. His focus was to spare President Ronald Reagan and his vice president, George Bush from possible impeachment over the Iran-contra scandal and related drug crimes implicating the Nicaraguan contra army.


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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:53 PM
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1. Convicted felon, drug dealer and Boy Scout spokesman.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:32 AM
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11. One sick NAZI mind, too.
Thanks, leesa! Didn't know he was a spokesman for the scouts. Wow. Wonder if the BSA council knows about his past as a NAZI psychopath? While that may be a requisite for modern conservatism, the mentally ill should not be allowed unaccompanied near children.

Here's a nice essay on what's really bad for kids, written long ago, in a more innocent time...

Neo-fascism and the religious right

John M. Swomley

After the collapse of the Soviet Union's communist system, most Americans breathed a sigh of relief that the danger of totalitarianism had largely passed. There was a similar relief when fascism of both the German and Italian varieties was defeated during World War II.

However, few Americans ever examined the roots of fascism or its implications as they did communism. The reason is that communism by its very existence was an alternative to capitalism, and the business and news interests that determine the nature of American politics and economics have steadily proclaimed the danger and disadvantages of communism.

While there is no immediate danger of a fascist movement taking control of the United States, it is well to examine the characteristics of European fascism and note any parallels in the United States.


There is an important chapter on Oliver North in Out of Control, written by Leslie Cockburn with the assistance of other CBS personnel. That chapter discusses North's career from altar boy at Sacred Heart Church to the present, including his psychiatric treatment in 1974 after roaming around naked in a Virginia suburb brandishing a 45-caliber pistol, and his plan for suspension of the Constituion and the imposition of martial law. During the war in Vietnam, he returned to the United States to appear on William Buckley's TV show "Firing Line" to protest press coverage of the bloody My Lai massacre.

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Sporadicus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:12 PM
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2. I Hope the BFEE is Soiling Their Collective 'Depends'
worrying about what could be revived or revealed between now and election day. I also hope that your article serves as a primer on that subject matter.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:41 AM
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12. Leavenworth may not be their final destination...
... as Traitors deserve worse. For those new to the subject, has an excellent bio with links on "America's Favorite Traitor."

Lt. Col. Oliver North, USMC (Ret)

"Ollie" is, without question, America's favorite traitor. He helped the Reagan administration commit a bunch of felonies, then destroyed evidence as fast as he could before the Iran-Contra investigation got into full swing. But people just seem to adore the guy anyway, despite his continual lies and total disregard for the U.S. Constitution.

North once had a job sitting behind a desk in the bowels of Ronald Reagan's White House, working for the National Security Council. As Assistant Deputy Director for Political-Military Affairs, he managed the day-to-day operations of a clandestine agency operating completely outside the law, without any form of oversight whatsoever. According to North's sworn testimony, his primary effort was coordinating covert sales of weapons to the government of Iran, and then funneling those profits to buy weapons for the Contra army in Nicaragua.

The only problem is, those actions were completely illegal. The Boland Amendment banned the U.S. Government from funding the Contras. Ollie claimed that he had only been following orders, but that's bullshit. According to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, it is a soldier's duty to disobey illegal orders. (North spent a year in Vietnam. Is it possible that somehow he never heard of the My Lai Massacre?)

But North had the best possible reason to wipe his ass with the American flag: cash money. Ollie was buying his weapons through a business owned by Richard Secord, a retired Air Force Major General. In May of 1996, Secord stuffed $200,000 into a Swiss bank account earmarked for tuition fees for Ollie's children. The previous year, Secord had personally handed over thousands of dollars in cash.


Thanks, Labor_Ready, for understanding what I'm trying to do. The more who see them for what they are, the sooner the day our nation returns to rule by law. Thanks also for your excellent visualization. Soiled Depends indeed.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:20 PM
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3. A disgrace to the US Marines and a traitor to OUR Constitution.
He's got a lot of blood on his hands, Octafish.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:48 AM
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14. Oliver North IS a traitor. He swore to uphold the U.S. Constitution...
...No where in his oath is it written that he should first stand on his head for his President.

If there was justice in this nation, this is one turd who wouldn't be able to vote in Florida as he'd be a convicted felon. Instead, he's made into a hero by the captive press and allowed to spew his NAZI bile through the public airwaves.

Oh well. Thanks to the Internet, the Truth will come out.

It seems the following Cornell University student newspaper article I found in answering Labor_Ready above may spell out how, in Ollie's world, property rights seem to trump all -- even the Almighty.

Oliver North's past stirs up passions, and so does his Statler lecture

By Jade Chang '97

Key Iran-Contra figure Oliver North proved Monday, April 14, that he can still attract as much controversy in 1997 as he did in the 1980s.

North's evening lecture in Statler Auditorium, titled "A New Conservative Covenant" and sponsored by many of Cornell's conservative organizations, including the Cornell College Republicans and the Cornell Review, as well as by the Office of the Dean of Students, drew about as many detractors as it did supporters.


He moved on to a discussion of the United States Constitution. Contradicting the notion that the Constitution confers rights on Americans, he argued, "The Constitution doesn't give you a single, solitary right whatsoever. Our rights are given by God and bear homage to God almighty." Then he added, jokingly, "Now, I know that I'm saying this at a land-grant school and may have just violated some law."

North held forth on what he sees as various governmental Constitutional abuses, such as inner-city curfews, confiscation of private property by the Environmental Protection Agency and unannounced inspections suffered by black mothers in federally funded housing projects.

"Somehow we've gotten out of hand when someone in Washington can declare your private property no longer so," he said.

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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:30 PM
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4. This was brought out a long time ago
I remember these charges from the late 80s. North should be about as popular a figure as O.J. Simpson by now. Lucky he had Poppy to look after him, eh?

Just another nutcase POS who, of course, works for Faux News.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:55 AM
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15. Poppy and the BFEE protects those who protect him and it.
They're like S.P.E.C.T.R.E. in that regard.

Bush wasn't impeached, thanks in large part to Ollie and Fawn shredding the evidence and erasing the hard drives, but most of all to Ollie keeping his wug shut.

NSA's Peter Kornbluh wrote an excellent review of Republican Judge Walsh's book detailing his investigation. Read it and weep, America...

Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conspiracy and Cover-up.

- book reviews
The Progressive Nov, 1997
by Peter Kornbluh

By Lawrence E. Walsh W.W. Norton and Co. 544 pages. $29.95.

On his last day as independent counsel in the Iran-contra investigation, I had the occasion to meet the Honorable Lawrence Walsh. The setting was a small going-away party, held in the spartan Watergate hotel room that had become his Washington home for seven years. Only a few veteran reporters of the scandal and a handful of friends attended. It was an inauspicious sendoff for a man who, quite alone, had overcome the viciousness of establishment Washington to expose, document, and prosecute one of the most important constitutional scandals of modern times.

Walsh came to Washington, D.C., in January 1987 to be the Perry Mason of the Iran-contra scandal. In January 1994--after four major prosecutions, four major convictions, seven plea bargains and publication of his massive three-volume final report--he left as the scandal's Lone Ranger, excoriated by his enemies, abandoned by would-be allies, and maligned by the media.

In a journalistic effort to shoot the messenger, a disparaging front-page story in the January 19, 1994, issue of The New York Times suggested that of all the people associated with the scandal, the independent counsel "himself may turn out to be the most widely scorned figure in the whole affair."

The Times was wrong. Lawrence Walsh's legacy of breaking through the Reagan administration's "firewall" of conspiracy and cover-up now stands against the stark backdrop of a criminal government, a complacent Congress, and a petulant press. Robert Parry, the first reporter to expose Oliver North's illicit contra operations, predicts "Walsh will be remembered as one man who told the people the truth."

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 11:07 AM
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16. Thanks to a media who refuses to bring up the ties to terror today
while whitewashing everything about the Bush thugs and their crimes.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:47 PM
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5. Fawn Hall: Shredded National Security Documents to Cover Up Iran-Contra

Fawn Hall: Shredded National Security Documents to Cover Up Iran-Contra Scandal
Fawn Hall worked for Oliver North. She was given full immunity to testify in the Iran Contra Scandal. She was represented by Plato Cacheris, who now represents Monica Lewinsky.

By Michael Dobbs

Thursday, August 3, 1995 ; Page A27

BANDAR SERI BAGWAN, BRUNEI, AUG. 2 -- The last time this tiny state of 276,000 people was in the news was back in 1986, when Assistant Secretary of State Elliot Abrams shook the Sultan of Brunei down for a $10 million contribution for his favorite charity: buying arms for the Nicaraguan contras. Unfortunately, through a clerical error on the part of Oliver North's secretary, Fawn Hall, the sultan's money ended up in the wrong secret Swiss bank account.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 11:20 AM
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17. Ollie wanted to circumvent the Law, so he shredded the Truth.
Here's a moment in time we need to keep in the DU archives, even if it's not in America's history books:

During the 1987 Iran-Contra hearings, the following exchange took place between Representative Jack Brooks of Texas, Senator Daniel Inouye of Hawaii, and Brendan Sullivan, attorney for Colonel Oliver North, during North's testimony before Congress:

REPRESENTATIVE BROOKS: Colonel North, in your work at the NSC, were you not assigned, at one time, to work on plans for continuity of government in the event of a major disaster?

BRENDAN SULLIVAN: Mister Chairman?

SENATOR INOUYE: I believe that question touches upon a highly sensitive and classified area so I request that you not touch on that.

REPRESENTATIVE BROOKS: I was particularly concerned, Mister Chairman, because I read in Miami papers, and several others, that there had been a plan developed by that same agency, a contingency plan in the event of emergency, that would suspend the American constitution. And I was deeply concerned about it and wondered if that was the area in which he had worked. I believe that it was and I wanted to get his confirmation.

SENATOR INOUYE: May I most respectfully request that this matter not be touched upon at this stage. If we wish to get into this, I'm certain arrangements can be made for an executive session.


Third World Traveler does a bang-up job on this important, uh, issue, as well:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 11:27 AM
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19. How big were those boots?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:07 PM
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23. Here's another "Public Serpent," friends of Ollie the Traitor.
Glad you mentioned the boots, seemslike a dream. It's getting deep these days. Fawn, who liked to do favors for authoritarian men in her life, also knew where to stuff the Truth. So to counteract the size CCs in my life, this ditty on what things were like in August 2001 -- before they changed the water:

Public Serpent

Iran-contra villain Elliott Abrams is back in action

by Terry J. Allen
In These Times magazine, August 2001

A nursing home aide earning minimum wage caring for Alzheimer's patients is an unskilled laborer. A grade school teacher pulling down $25,000 a year in a crumbling inner-city school is barely a professional. But a politician reaping power, pay, perks and retirement packages is a public servant.

Calling George W. Bush and Jesse Helms "public servants" is like calling Iran-contra criminal Elliott Abrams an "outstanding diplomat"-which is precisely what White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer did when he announced Abrams' appointment as senior director of the National Security Council's Office for Democracy, Human Rights and International Operaations. Fleischer conveyed Bush's faith-based assertion that Abrams is "the best person to do the job," which, happily for the appointee, does not require Senate confirmation.

For those who don't remember, Abrams was one of the most odious participants in a particularly shameful chapter of U.S. history. In the '80s, he was Ronald Reagan's assistant secretary of state for human rights and humanitarian affairs and later the assistant secretary of state for inter-American affairs. In that post, Abrams, in his own words, "supervised U.S. policy in Latin America and the Caribbean."

That policy included backing the contras-a surrogate army dedicated to overthrowing the democratically elected Sandinista government of Nicaragua. It also involved funding the military thugocracy of El Salvador and supervising its war against a popular leftist rebellion. In his role as public servant, Abrams found time to cover up the genocidal policies of the Guatemalan government and embrace the government of Honduras while it perpetrated serial human rights abuses through Battalion 3-16, a U.S.-trained "intelligence unit" turned death squad.

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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:58 PM
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6. These people still have power and are using it
(1) Robert C. McFarlane: pleaded guilty to four counts of withholding information from Congress;

(2) Oliver L. North: convicted of altering and destroying documents, accepting an illegal gratuity, and aiding and abetting in the obstruction of Congress; conviction reversed on appeal; (enough reading for a year)

(3) John M. Poindexter: convicted of conspiracy, false statements, destruction and removal of records, and obstruction of Congress; conviction reversed on appeal; (this guy was so bad, he was kicked out of the Mr. Bush Jr. Administration).

(4) Richard V. Secord: pleaded guilty to making false statements to Congress;

(5) Albert Hakim: pleaded guilty to supplementing the salary of North; (Albert Hakim died in April 25, 2003)

(6) Thomas G. Clines: convicted of four counts of tax-related offenses for failing to report income from the operations;

(7) Carl R. Channell: pleaded guilty to conspiracy to defraud the United States;

(8) Richard R. Miller: pleaded guilty to conspiracy to defraud the United States; (no specific information on Richard R. Miller currently)

(9) Clair E. George: convicted of false statements and perjury before Congress;

(10) Duane R. Clarridge: indicted on seven counts of perjury and false statements; pardoned before trial by President Bush; (the guy seems to have written a book about his time in the C.I.A.)

(11) Alan D. Fiers, Jr.: pleaded guilty to withholding information from Congress;

(12) Joseph F. Fernandez: indicted on four counts of obstruction and false statements; case dismissed when Attorney General Richard L. Thornburgh refused to declassify information needed for his defense;

(13) Elliott Abrams: pleaded guilty to withholding information from Congress; (Currently has a job in the Mr. Bush Jr. Administration)

(14) Caspar W. Weinberger: charged with four counts of false statements and perjury; pardoned before trial by President Bush. (Now teaching at Harvard Law School)
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:25 PM
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8. Prosecutor Walsh wanted to impeach Reagan & Bush 1 - and here's
more of the story how Bush obstructed justice and republicans pressured to stop all investigations( very germaine to what is happening today:


Mr. Walsh hinted that Mr. Bush's pardon of Mr. Weinberger and the President's own role in the affair could be related. For the first time, he charged that Mr. Weinberger's notes about the secret decision to sell arms to Iran, a central piece of evidence in the case against the former Pentagon chief, included 'evidence of a conspiracy among the highest ranking Reagan Administration officials to lie to Congress and the American public.'The prosecutor charged that Mr. Weinberger's efforts to hide his notes may have 'forestalled impeachment proceedings against President Reagan' and formed part of a pattern of 'deception and obstruction.' On Dec. 11, Mr. Walsh said he discovered 'misconduct' in Mr. Bush's failure to turn over what the prosecutor said were the President's own 'highly relevant contemporaneous notes, despite repeated requests for such documents.'

The notes, in the form of a campaign diary that Mr. Bush compiled after the elections in November 1986, are in the process of being turned over to Mr. Walsh, who said, 'In light of President Bush's own misconduct, we are gravely concerned about his decision to pardon others who lied to Congress and obstructed official investigations.'
In an interview on the 'McNeil-Lehrer Newshour' tonight, Mr. Walsh said for the first time that Mr. Bush was a subject of his investigation. The term 'subject,' as it has been used by Mr. Walsh's prosecutors, is broadly defined as someone involved in events under scrutiny, but who falls short of being a target, or a person likely to be charged with a crime. In the inquiry into the entire Iran-contra affair, a number of Government officials have been identified as subjects who were never charged with wrongdoing.

The prosecutor said he would take appropriate action in Mr. Bush's case, implying he might contemplate future legal action against the President for withholding relevant documents. But prosecutors have said in the past that charging a President or former President with wrongdoing would be highly unlikely without overwhelming evidence of a serious crime.

C. Boyden Gray, the White House counsel, said today that Mr. Bush had voluntarily supplied the disputed material to Mr. Walsh, asserting that the notes contained no new information about the affair. Mr. Gray said Mr. Bush wanted make the notes public, but did not say when.

more at
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 11:24 AM
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18. Iran-Contra gangsters resurface in Bush administration
Thank you for the excellent resources, mrdmk! Here's a nice listing of those lucky enough to find jobs in this recessionary period that was initiated by the unelected moron who insisted on tax cuts for the richest of the rich...

Iran-Contra gangsters resurface in Bush administration

By Patrick Martin
1 August 2001

The Bush administration appealed to Senate Democrats July 27 to move ahead with the confirmation of two top-level diplomatic nominees whose appointments have been delayed because of their role in defending right-wing dictatorships and death squads in Central America.

Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Joseph Biden (D-Del) said through a spokesman that a hearing for John Negroponte, nominated for US ambassador to the United Nations, would be held as early as next week. No hearing has yet been set for Otto Reich, nominated for assistant secretary of state for western hemisphere affairs.

Negroponte and Reich are two of the three Bush administration appointees with direct operational roles in the Central American counterinsurgency campaigns of the 1980s. The third is Elliott Abrams, named as director of the office for democracy, human rights and international operations at the National Security Council, a White House position which is not subject to Senate confirmation. Abrams was convicted of lying to Congress about the Iran-Contra affair, but was later pardoned by Bushs father in 1992.

Negroponte was US ambassador to Honduras during the years when the right-wing Nicaraguan Contra forces were based in southern Honduras, just across the border from Nicaragua, supplied and armed illegally by the Reagan administration. Abrams was assistant secretary of state for western hemisphere affairs during that period and worked closely with Oliver North in organizing the illegal arms supplies to the Contras. Reich headed the Office of Public Diplomacy, a State Department agency which illegally funded pro-Contra propaganda both in the US and internationally.

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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:16 PM
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7. the law says bush* had to open reaguns records...but bush* denied
access to the American People....and THIS is part of the reason...if reagun's presidential records are ever released to the American Public...much of the St. reaguns crowd would be SHOCKED...and in addition, if the records are opened, America would STOP funding this DRUGS-WEAPONS-WAR-WAR PROFITEERS cycle of madness....

as it sits hidden now, to keep the bush* perpetual war process rolling, while the American Public remains duped by bush* BIG PR machine....lalalalalal lalala lalala....
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:27 PM
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9. good tie in - thanks- no wonder he sealed his father's and Raygun's papers
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 11:29 AM
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20. Hostile Witness
Some tried. Thank heavens for Americans who still believe in the Law. Here are the words of one I wish were still with us...


By Arthur L. Liman
The Washington Post
Sunday, August 16, 1998


The Iran-contra scandal burst upon the scene in November 1986 when it was first reported in a Lebanese newspaper that President Ronald Reagan had approved the sale of missiles to Iran in exchange for American hostages in Lebanon. Later, Justice Department lawyers found evidence that proceeds from the arms sales had been diverted to illegally fund the contra anticommunist guerrillas in Nicaragua in circumvention of the Boland Amendment banning U.S. aid to the rebels. It was an audacious, covert scheme -- known by its participants as "the Enterprise" -- carried out largely by a small group of top administration officials and private operators without the knowledge of Congress. And when it began to unravel, the foremost question congressional investigators faced was the classic one echoing from the days of Watergate: What did the president know and when did he know it? Arthur L. Liman, a renowned New York corporate lawyer who had been involved in many big-time cases, was brought in as chief counsel for the Senate special committee set up to investigate. Liman helped conduct 40 days of controversial public hearings that made Marine Lt. Col. Oliver North a household name but were inconclusive about Reagan's role. Liman's memoirs, which are being published posthumously next month, recall those days when a president's fate hung in the balance.

Arthur L. Liman, a renowned New York corporate lawyer who had been involved in many big-time cases, was brought in as chief counsel for the Senate special committee set up to investigate. Liman helped conduct 40 days of controversial public hearings that made Marine Lt. Col. Oliver North a household name but were inconclusive about Reagan's role. Liman's memoirs, which are being published posthumously next month, recall those days when a president's fate hung in the balance.

Liman died last year before Whitewater metamorphosed into Monicagate, but he almost certainly would have stuck to the view expressed in his memoirs that the high crimes and misdemeanors alleged in Iran-contra posed a far more serious threat to American democracy and our system of checks and balances. Even Watergate -- a bungled burglary followed by a White House-orchestrated coverup -- was less threatening, Liman argued. He saw Iran-contra as a deliberate effort to conduct foreign policy in secret by using a private organization motivated by profit and accountable to no one. Whitewater, by contrast, involved mainly pre-presidential financial activities that posed no constitutional issue or question of presidential accountability, according to Liman, who said the country could not afford to incapacitate a president by a drawn-out investigation that questioned his legitimacy.

While 28 witnesses appeared, it was the testimony of Vice Adm. John Poindexter and North in July 1987 that was the most dramatic and crucial, as Liman recalls in the following excerpt:

FROM THE FIRST DAY I MET HIM, I knew it was John Poindexter, not Oliver North, who held Ronald Reagan's fate in his hands. North was the more colorful by far, but I wanted Poindexter as a witness.


Too bad there are so many crooks in positions of authority, like un-admirable John Poindexter. Gee. Could that be why the unelected moron picked him, of all people, to computerize Americans' every move with the Total Information Awareness project?
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:38 PM
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10. Great thread, Octafish
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 11:35 AM
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21. Thanks, Eloriel! Good to read ya! Remember INSLAW?
No one wants to see the crooks of the BFEE behind bars more than you.

Here's a bit of straw for that particular camel's back...

A Primer on INSLAW

This primer has been collated and provided as a courtesy by Brian Wright. (Thank you.)

Excerpt from:
August 11, 1992
U.S. House of Representatives, Committee on the Judiciary

Jack Brooks, Texas, Chairman


The ("INSLAW Affair") report concludes that there appears to be strong evidence, as indicated by the findings of two Federal court proceedings, as well as by the Committee investigation, that the Department of Justice "acted willfully and fraudulently," and "took, converted and stole," INSLAW's Enhanced PROMIS by "trickery, fraud and deceit." The report finds that these actions against INSLAW were implemented through the Project Manager from the beginning of the contract and under the direction of high-level Justice Department officials. The evidence presented in the report demonstrates that high-level Department officials deliberately ignored INSLAW's proprietary rights and misappropriated its PROMIS software for use at locations not covered under contract with the company. Justice then proceeded to challenge INSLAW's claims in court even though its own internal deliberations had concluded that these claims were valid and that the Department would most likely lose in court on this issue.

According to the report, the second phase of the Committee's investigation concentrated on the allegations that high-level officials at the Department of Justice conspired to drive INSLAW into insolvency and steal PROMIS. In this regard, the report states that several individuals testified under oath that INSLAW's PROMIS software was stolen and distributed internationally in order to provide financial gain to associates of Justice Department officials and to further intelligence and foreign policy objectives of the United States. Additional corroborating evidence was uncovered by the Committee which substantiated to varying degrees the information provided by these individuals.

(Chairman) Brooks stated, "Although (the Department of Justice was) faced with a growing body of evidence that serious wrongdoing had occurred which reached to the highest levels of the Department, both Attorney General Meese and Thornburgh ignored these findings of two Federal courts and refused to seek the appointment of an Independent Counsel."

"Summer Of the Octopus"

Excerpt from:
by Mary McGrory
August 18, 1991

(Danny Casolaro) had been investigating the Inslaw case, a tangled affair of government perfidy and international intrigue that has been in litigation since 1983. In his explorations, he found out about possibly related scandals -- BCCI, S&Ls, Iran-contra, the "October surprise" -- but until two weeks ago, he had found nothing about Inslaw. Then, he joyfully told friends, he hit bingo. One more interview and the case was cracked.
Suicides do not tell their intimates within days of taking the hemlock that they are "ecstatic" or "euphoric." Casolaro did. Nor do they attend family birthday parties, as Danny Casolaro was planning to do hours before he died. The last known call was to his mother in Fairfax (VA). He told her he was on Interstate 81 in Pennsylvania. He would be late, but he was headed home. A manic-depressive might then kill himself. Nobody ever suggested Danny Casolaro was one.

Although the case involves the alleged theft of computer software by the Justice Department in the time of Ed Meese, Thornburgh took it to his bosom. Bill Hamilton, a perfectly nice midwesterner who owned a Washington firm called Inslaw, had invented Promis, a software especially adapted to crime statistics, which he sold to Justice. The second year, Justice stopped making payments. Hamilton and his wife, Nancy, believe that cronies of Meese were given the franchise to sell around the world. Promis has turned up in Canada and Pakistan. Thelink with the "October surprise" is Earl Brian, a former Reagan political associate who allegedly paid off Iranians to keep the hostages until after the 1980 election -- and allegedly was paid off himself with huge profits from Promis.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 08:58 AM
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26. Oliver North: "Every terrorist" wants Kerry to win."
Gee. Almost forgot the most important point. The far-right nutjobs need to keep Smirko in power so they can keep making the big bucks in the War on Terra . Bless their souls, if they had any...

"I sold arms to the Iranian terrorists
who killed 241 service men and women in Beirut."

Oliver North: "Every terrorist" wants Kerry to win."

As a guest on the June 8 radio broadcast of The Sean Hannity Show -- which was broadcast live from the 2004 Sean Hannity Freedom Concert in Jackson, NJ -- FOX News Channel host Oliver North did not mince words in his effort to link Senator John Kerry (D-MA) to terrorists.

From the June 8 edition of The Sean Hannity Show:

NORTH: Every -- every terrorist is hoping John Kerry gets elected. I'll say it. Every terrorist out there is hoping John Kerry is the next president of the United States.

As Media Matters for America has noted on several occasions, the speculation that terrorists would prefer Kerry to be president -- while propagated by some in the mainstream media -- is utterly unfounded.

It does, however, build upon speculation by national security adviser Condoleezza Rice in April and, more recently, by President George W. Bush, both of whom have suggested that terrorists might attack in the United States to affect the outcome of the November presidential election. (Some believe the terrorists' actions in Spain altered the outcome of the election held there three days later, in which the country's pro-Bush prime minister was voted out of office.)

In fact, the theory that terrorists have a preference for Kerry in November runs counter to a March 17 Reuters report that suggests precisely the opposite: In a statement issued by the Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades, which took responsibility for the Madrid bombings and claims to have links to al Qaeda, the group voiced its support for the reelection of President Bush, who, according to the statement, "deals with matters by force rather than with wisdom."

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:47 AM
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13. LOL over Your Title, "Know Your B.F.E.E."
We need a whole forum devoted to that topic. And I just wish JK would unleash all the goods he's got on them.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 11:40 AM
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22. Remember Dick Tracy's "Crimestoppers' Textbook'?

It's like that.

Yeh about JK. I think he's saving his ammo until the right moment -- when he can see the red in their eyes.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:33 PM
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25. Me? Remember D.Tracy? Why, No, I'm Much Too Young. That's the Ticket n/
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:15 PM
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24. "Who is Osama Bin Laden?" by Michel Chossudovsky
is helpful in understanding the Bush Crime Family too, how Iran Contra led to Afghanistan and the defeat of the former USSR

So is John Stanton's "Drugs, the CIA and Faustian Alliances"

They are organized crime now-like S.P.E.C.T.R.E indeed imo.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 09:06 AM
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27. Oliver North & Co. Banned from Costa Rica

Investigators held North responsible for Gen. Manuel Noriega's participation in the contra supply network, which opened thedoor to at least seven pilots who trafficked in drugs whilesupplying arms to the contras. "These requests for contra help were initiated by Colonel North to General Noriega," the commission reported. "They opened a gate so their henchmen could utilize territory for trafficking in arms and drugs." (Tico Times, Costa Rica, 7/28/89).

Barred from Costa Rica along with North were Maj. Gen. Richard Secord, former National Security Advisor John Poindexter, former US Ambassador to Costa Rica, Lewis Tambs, and former CIA station chief in Costa Rica, Joseph Fernandez. This winter Costa Rica's congress will vote on the permanent implementation of the bannings. In an interview with Extra!, Costa Rican Minister of Information, Jorge Urbina, stated: "I can assure you that the recommendations will pass nearly unanimously."

The Costa Rican government inquiry confirmed information aboutcontra/drug links developed by independent journalists, lawyers,and a US Senate subcommittee. Ollie North's notebooks contain dozens of references to contra-related drug trafficking, includinga July 12, 1985 entry: "$14 million to finance came from drugs." When high-ranking officials of the "Just Say No"administration are banned-due to drug links-from the country US editorial writers hail as Central America's leading democracy, one might have expected major coverage. One would have been wrong. Although a lengthy Associated Press wire report (7/22/89) carried the story into virtually every newsroom in the US, major media largely ignored the story or, like the Washington Post and Miami Herald, relegated it to "in Brief" sections. The New York Time sand the three major TV networks failed to mention it at all.

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