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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:11 PM
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Moscow Times Covers Voter Fraud and Clint Curtis Story
Global Eye
By Chris Floyd

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2005/04/08/120.ht...

Let's face the facts. The game is over and we -- the "reality-based community," the believers in genuine democracy and law, the heirs of Jefferson and Madison, Emerson and Thoreau, the toilers and dreamers, all those who seek to rise above the beast within and shape the brutal chaos of existence into something higher, richer and imbued with meaning -- have lost. The better world we thought had been won out of the blood and horror of history -- a realm of enlightenment that often found its best embodiment in the ideals and aspirations of the American Republic -- is gone. It's been swallowed by darkness, by ravening greed, by bestial spirits and by willful primitives who now possess overwhelming instruments of power and dominion.

A gang of such spirits seized control of the U.S. government by illicit means in 2000 and maintained that control through rampant electoral corruption in 2004. The re-election of President George W. Bush last November was a deliberately shambolic process that saw massive lockouts of opposition voters; unverifiable returns compiled by easily hackable machines operated by avowed corporate partisans of the ruling party; and vast discrepancies between exit polls and final results gaps much larger than those that led elections in Ukraine and Georgia to be condemned as manipulated frauds. Indeed, a panel of statisticians said last week that the odds of such a discrepancy occurring naturally were 959,000 to 1, the Akron Beacon-Journal reported.

<snip>

Late last year, Congress heard sworn testimony from Florida programmer Clint Curtis, who created vote-rigging software in 2000 at the request of Tom Feeny, a Bush Family factotum. Feeny wanted Curtis (a fellow Republican) and his employer, Yang Enterprises, to produce untraceable programs that could "control the vote" as needed, investigator Brad Friedman reported. Feeny also told Curtis of Bush plans to "suppress the black vote" with "exclusion lists." This is exactly what happened. BBC investigator Greg Palast has shown that tens of thousands of legitimate African-American voters were deliberately "purged" from the rolls by a private Republican-controlled corporation hired by Florida Governor Jeb Bush. Afterwards, Feeny -- who had been Jeb's running mate in his first gubernatorial campaign -- was rewarded for his dutiful service with a plum congressional seat.
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:17 PM
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1. The Howl of the Beast
Swallowed by darkness, by ravening greed.



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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:19 PM
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2. I actually cried
Read this. I am going to thank him for writing it and for daring to publish it where he did.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:22 PM
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3. I would so love to see this gain some momentum....
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 05:34 AM
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16. IT'S HAPPENING: 19 days that could "turn the tide":
- Mar 31st: US Count Votes report released (mentioned in this thread's article):

Analysis - Vote Counts May Have Been Altered
http://www.uscountvotes.org

Scientific Analysis Suggests Presidential Vote Counts May Have Been Altered
Group of University Professors Urges Investigation of 2004 Election
http://electionarchive.org/ucvAnalysis/US/Exit_Polls_20...

"Officially, President Bush won November's election by 2.5%, yet exit polls showed Kerry winning by 3% <1> . According to a report to be released today by a group of university statisticians, the odds of a discrepancy this large between the national exit poll and election results happening by accident are close to 1 in a million.

In other words, by random chance alone, it could not have happened. But it did.

Two alternatives remain. Either something was wrong with the exit polling, or something was wrong with the vote count.

Exit polls have been used to verify the integrity of elections in the Ukraine, in Latin America, in Germany, and elsewhere. Yet in November 2004, the U.S. exit poll discrepancy was much more than normal exit poll error (and similar to that of the invalid Ukraine election.<2> )"
(more)
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0504/S00001.htm

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- April 8-10, 2005: NATIONAL ELECTION REFORM AND ELECTION INVESTIGATION CONFERENCE EXPECTED TO DRAW HUGE CROWD
Nashville, TN

Hundreds of concerned citizens and nationally recognized election reform activists are expected to attend the National Election Reform Conference in Nashville, TN, April 8-10, 2005. Proclaimed as the most important gathering in America since 1775," the conference is hosted by "Gathering To Save Our Democracy", a Tennessee grassroots organization, this forum will focus on the still unresolved discrepancies and fraud issues from 2004 election and the crucial need for election reform in America. With support by over 40 local, state and national election reform organizations (see below), the event features a prestigious panel of speakers, many of whom are experts in their related fields or are well known for their work on the election fraud investigations. Conference sessions and pre-and post-conference discussion groups will be explore the current threats to our democratic process and ways to achieve meaningful election reform and election justice moving forward. A partial list of speakers follows, along with the list of aligned organizations.

Registration, Conference Details and more info: www.freepress.org/conf.php Press/Media: Bernie Ellis: tracevu@bellsouth.net

(more)
Tell 391 National Media to Cover the NATIONAL ELECTION REFORM CONFERENCE
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

UPDATE: Rep. McKinney added as keynote speaker National Election Conf
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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- April 18th (first of two hearings): <Carter> COMMISSION ON FEDERAL ELECTION REFORM
http://www.american.edu/ia/cfer /

"American University's Center for Democracy and Election Management is honored to organize the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former U.S. President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James A. Baker, III. The Commission of twenty-one members is both bipartisan and non-partisan. During the next six months, it will examine the state of the electoral process in the United States and offer recommendations on improving it."

NOW IS THE TIME TO TAKE ACTION.

Check the 2004 Election Results and Discussion Forum regularly to keep up-to-date and see what you can do.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 07:27 AM
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19. Tom, thank you. You solved a big problem for me this morning.
Since last night I've been looking for a way to track down an apparent, severe, loophole I discovered inadvertenly yesterday in the new Ohio election law.

Through your post (I hadn't been aware of the conference before) I tracked down Bernie Ellis, and was able to get the material to him so he can pass it on to attendees from Ohio.

FWIW: It sure looks to me like this whole issue may be getting ready to blow up in the face of BushCo.

FYI:

Subject: VVPB Loophole in new Ohio law (HB 262)

Just stumbled upon this looking for info on OH polling places.

This apparently means the paper ballots can be destroyed at the end of voting day, and will not be available for random audits and recounts. Unbelievable!

(emphasis below is mine)

HB 262 -- FINAL VERSION AS SIGNED BY GOVERNOR 5/04

http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=125_HB_ ...

(125th General Assembly)
(Substitute House Bill Number 262)
-----------------------------------
Be it enacted by the General Assembly of the State of Ohio:
SECTION 1. That sections... 3506.01, ... be amended... to read as follows:
Sec. 3506.01.
(H)..."The physical paper printout shall be securely retained at the polling place until the close of the polls on the day of the election..."
-----------------------------------

There's not a single word in it requiring printouts to be locked up, safeguarded, put in storage, made available for recounts, made available for audits, etc. Nothing.

Any thoughts on what we might do to validate this suspicion and take action if necessary?



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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:42 PM
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21. Contact http://www.caseohio.org/
http://www.caseohio.org /
http://www.caseohio.org/contactus.html

Citizens Alliance for Secure Elections
Dedicated to secure, reliable and voter verifiable elections in Ohio !
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 02:34 PM
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26. Please keep us posted about HB 262. n/t
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:14 AM
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4. Kick!
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:33 AM
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5. How about that Moscow Times
Why are they reporting this and not the U.S.? At least Brad the Blogger (something like that) is also reporting it and a few other bloggers. This story is unbelievable. Would like to know more, especially the hearing where Curtis testified.
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:41 AM
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13. Curtis testified under oath at the US House Rep Conyers hearing - Links:
Some links:

Computer expert testifies before the US House Judiciary Committee that he was hired to write a program to flip the votes electronically:
- Article: http://www.newtimesbpb.com/issues/2005-02-10/news/news....
- Video: Clinton Curtis testifies before House Judiciary
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001063.htm
- Transcript of video: http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2004/12/13/18416/541/7...
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:39 AM
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6. These are the words that could awaken America!
This is the most powerful rhetoric I've read since Thomas Paine!

I haven't even read the article yet--just the post--but it's extraordinary and true.

I wasn't aware of Clint Curtis--despite following the topic closely. Shows what kind of a media environment we're in.

This is one hell of a blast! Bravo!

:patriot:

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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:59 AM
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7. Yes. I have a degree in English Literature and know that
I can recognize great and thoughtful writing when I see it, and that first paragraph knocked my socks off!

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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:09 AM
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8. This is terrific....
what a piece of good journalism.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:16 AM
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9. Brilliant. How sadly, true.
But, you won't see this on ANY of our so-called MEDIA News stations. And coming from Russia. Who would ever have thought. Thank you. Thank you a million times for the real news.

Kicked!
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:36 AM
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10. Most Excellent!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 02:22 AM
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11. It's so important this story has not died out yet.
I read some about Clint Curtis at D.U. earlier. I had NOT learned, however, that in addition to his suicide, it was discovered he was beaten. (So many suicides follow self-beatings, right?) It gives more substance to the story, for sure.

Also, the article illuminates a fact most people who live away from Florida would NOT know: rotten, filthy Tom Feeney (whom you remember from tv news as the asshole who rounded up support during the 2000 Presidential vote recount in Florida to dismiss the original slate of electors and send a totally NEW slate to Washington if it became established Al Gore had won there) was ALSO the first running mate of Jeb Bush.

Here's a photo of the bastard with George W. Bush.



I'm praying there will be more investigation of Clint Curtis, and the 2000 and 2004 elections. It's WONDERFUL seeing this news is not being overlooked elsewhere. It may take having our "enemies" shaming the Republicans to get them to clean up their filthy acts.
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:35 AM
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12. Curtis is alive and speaking at the National Election Reform Conference...
this weekend. Brad (the blogger) will also be speaking. (Actually, it was a Fl gov't employee that "suicided".)

Please see these threads:

Tell 391 National Media to Cover the NATIONAL ELECTION REFORM CONFERENCE
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

UPDATE: Rep. McKinney added as keynote speaker National Election Conf
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 05:08 AM
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14. Great! Thanks for setting me straight on this.
Went to see who the heck got suicided, found it was Ray C. Lemme, a seasoned senior investigator with the Florida DOT Inspector General's Office and a combat veteran of the Vietnam War.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/120604Mads...

Appreciate the links. Looks like the story if far from dead, then! (Surely hope so.)
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 05:41 AM
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17. Your Welcome! :) Check post #16 above. Things are starting to COOK! n/t
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 05:34 AM
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15. Oy.
A) editorial
B) wrong thread title
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 07:21 AM
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18. Yes, but this BELONGS in LBN
Other flaws aside, the fact that important commentary on serious flaws in America's democracy is relegated to, of all places, The Moscow Times, is major.

Plus, the rhetoric here is as powerful as any I've ever read.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 07:25 PM
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23. Disagree, this is op-ed, it was placed in the right forum.
People need to explore forums outside their usual range.

thanks Larissa :yourock:
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 09:17 AM
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20. kick
This is a great article and a must-read for everyone.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 02:41 PM
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22. Thanks for this
:kick: :kick: :kick:
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mikita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 09:09 PM
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24. kick!
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jen4clark Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:50 PM
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25. Kick!!
:yourock:
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