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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:54 PM
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Times Reporter Is Subpoenaed in Leak Case
Edited on Thu Aug-12-04 09:55 PM by TrueAmerican
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/13/politics/13leak.html

August 13, 2004
Times Reporter Is Subpoenaed in Leak Case
By ADAM LIPTAK

reporter for The New York Times, Judith Miller, was subpoenaed yesterday by a Washington grand jury investigating the disclosure of the identity of a C.I.A. undercover officer to the syndicated columnist Robert Novak and other journalists.

The subpoena to Ms. Miller was only the most recent of a series issued to journalists in a politically sensitive inquiry that has on several occasions led investigators to question White House officials.

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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:55 PM
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1. fuck yeah!
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:57 PM
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2. LOL
I gues since she was such a big Bush enabler in the run up to war, she would have good info. She had no qualms about repeating BS from Chalabi so it's highly possible that the WH leaked the Plame stuff to her too.
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:58 PM
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3. All reporters who are protecting this traitor deserves
JAIL TIME. They are traitors too! BASTARDS!
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:58 PM
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4. Hurm...
...it's almost as if it all tied together. leaks, lies about wmd, conterfeiting murderous thugs engaged in Bush-supporting PR work in Iraq, curveball, novak, terrorist supporting Bush, Bush hindering investigations of terrorism...ja-ha...
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:04 PM
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5. Every time this happens the case gets bogged down further
Fitzgerald MUST have enough to make a case by now.

This is morphing into a freedom of the press debacle. YES they should tell who in the WH outed a covert agent for political gain- (and a frog marched Miller is a fun picture) but it just isn't going to stop there.

New precedent is going to end up being set regarding sources and with the executive branch evolving into a secret society that is classifying EVERYTHING, we will NEED leakers even more in the future.

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slojim240 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:05 PM
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6. Great discussion on KoJo's show today about why Novak has not been
Edited on Thu Aug-12-04 10:10 PM by slojim240
subpoenoed. It's because they are asking all the background information so that when they finally get Novak under oath, they will be able to get him for perjury if he lies. They are laying all the foundations by questioning all the other journalists involved first.

http://www.wamu.org/kojo/ bottom of page under Thursday: CIA Leak Probe
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IthinkThereforeIAM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:52 PM
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20. Yep

...I was going to post a similar response, and would like to add that I do not think they want a charge filed too soon, for fear of a lame duck pardon that seals everything up, a la Iran/Contra and Weinberger, et al...

The wheels of justice grind slowly.

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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 11:27 AM
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38. I think Novak is a target....and will get his letter shortly n/t
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 06:20 PM
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43. I can't find it on the page
They have next week's schedule, and the archives doesn't have it.
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:09 PM
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7. Cool
Edited on Thu Aug-12-04 10:20 PM by Snazzy
About time she got her Chalbi's in a wringer. I wonder if NYT will even mention it.

(Used to think she was a spook, maybe still do, assuming there's two teams playing at Langley.)


http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0306-02.htm

Subpoena list

A federal grand jury has subpoenaed White House records on administration contacts with more than two dozen journalists and news media outlets in a special investigation into the improper leak of a covert CIA official's identity to columnist Robert Novak last July. They include:

Robert Novak, "Crossfire," "Capital Gang" and the Chicago Sun-Times

Knut Royce and Timothy M. Phelps, Newsday

Walter Pincus, Richard Leiby, Mike Allen, Dana Priest and Glenn Kessler, The Washington Post

Matthew Cooper, John Dickerson, Massimo Calabresi, Michael Duffy and James Carney, Time magazine

Evan Thomas, Newsweek

Andrea Mitchell, "Meet the Press," NBC

Chris Matthews, "Hardball,"

MSNBC

Tim Russert, Campbell Brown, NBC

Nicholas D. Kristof, David E. Sanger and Judith Miller, The New York Times

Greg Hitt and Paul Gigot, The Wall Street Journal

John Solomon, The Associated Press

Jeff Gannon, Talon News

(Edit: just noticed it's a NYT story! Good sign, they wouldn't name her in the ft. page WMD scandal/Ombudsman thing).
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Zo Zig Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:30 PM
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15. According to that list...
when this broke it was only eight reporters. Now its 25!
The spin, the spin...
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:48 PM
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18. Well, to be fair (ugh!), only eight of those may be ones actually told.
I'm sure that list isn't complete, and it's probably compiled from all the phone logs, investigations, and preliminary testimony. Russert apparently said he wasn't leaked to like Novak was. A good prosecutor would work toward such a list, probably ending up with Novak. They may even have a pared-down candidate list of who leaked. It may even be focused on one or two people. Now they're going closer and closer to get as much direct evidence as possible. It's one thing to have second-hand testimony ("I overheard so-and-so talking to such-and-such and heard the words 'wife' and 'Wilson'.") ... but it's far better to get 'so-and-so' on the record. All of 'em.
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 01:32 AM
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25. I think you're on the money with it being a phone list
Edited on Fri Aug-13-04 01:35 AM by Snazzy
Calls from WH, Air Force 1, Cheney's OEB office, etc.

It's also a top shelf phone list. When they tried to fry Wilson, or whatever they were doing, it was the big guns, major pubs. Wasn't it? (Think I read there were 8 actual outlets leaked to-- also seems to be a nat'l sec. 'beat' to the list here). They could have started and ended with Novakula and Moonie Times.

So my point, should I actually get to it, is that Judith was on the a-list; I think that's new info. Nothing gives these pricks more satisfaction than floating something in the librul NYT, something Miller has facilitated oh so many times.

Should add, maybe obviously but warrants thinking in case it's not, these aren't some mid-level functionary calls. Miller is their star as far as WH Communications dept. is concerned. The lowest contact she'd have is Scooter.


(And WTF is with "Scooter" anyway? Is this a prep school thing I missed or something? Innuendo of some sort?)

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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 02:37 AM
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27. Looks almost
like a who's who of media whores. There's a few decent people in the list, but many of them suck.

Judith Miller and Robert Novak (douchebag for liberty)...they make quite the couple
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:10 PM
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8. Good..
And I hope she ends up in jail...
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:11 PM
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9. Explains a lot. On the Rove speed dial.
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:12 PM
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10. Hell yahhh....n/t
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bushalert Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:17 PM
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11. good news!!!!
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bushalert Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:17 PM
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12. good news!!!!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:24 PM
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13. EXCELLENT! Glad to hear this! Miller has blood on her hands of our
soldiers who are dying, maimed and psychologically traumatized because of her relationship with Chalabi/PNAC!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:29 PM
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14. Judith Miller! The biggest media asslicking whore of all!
Now we are getting somewhere.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:37 PM
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16. Did the NYT publish the story revealing Plames occupation..
when Novak broke the news?

anyone(?)
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 11:09 PM
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22. Not on their search ("Plame") till August '03
Edited on Thu Aug-12-04 11:13 PM by Snazzy
Novak was in July.

FOREIGN DESK | August 8, 2003, Friday

AFTER THE WAR: WEAPONS INTELLIGENCE; Iraq Arms Critic Reacts to Report on Wife

By DOUGLAS JEHL (NYT) words
Late Edition - Final , Section A , Page 8 , Column 4

DISPLAYING FIRST 50 OF WORDS - Joseph C. Wilson IV, a retired ambassador who was a secret envoy of the Bush administration to Africa and who publicly voiced doubts about a reported Iraqi weapons program, says he has become a target of a campaign to discourage others like him from going ... In the prewar effort...

Here's Novakula:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn20030714.shtml

July 14.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 12:20 PM
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39. Ok, Thanks, Snazzy...
I wasn't sure. The NYT seems to want to make a point, they have never published Plame's undercover status. I don't know why this is, but they have said it more than once.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:40 PM
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17. wohoho!
maybe she can share a cell with Novakula
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:48 PM
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19. She owes this country and world the truth!!!...A Traitor or a Saint,
She is at the fork in the road and has the power
to change this world at the click of her fingers.

I wonder if Cheney has threatenned her life.
Wouldn't put it past him.
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hansolsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 11:07 PM
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21. Yes!!!!!!! I wrote to the NYTs in May, 2003, deploring Miller's coverage
of WMD issues, and included the following paragraph -- I think it stands the test of time pretty well:

"And what of President Bush? Well, apparently he and the boys have been up to considerable mischief, including virtually gang raping one Judith Miller, deflowering her journalistic virtue, leaving her naked, and covered in dust, camel dung in her hair, casually abandoned out behind the Met Alpha mess tent. They, of course, deny ever meeting her. There are a lot of people who would like to see the little blue dress on this one. Do you suppose there is any DNA evidence? The net result of these accumulated Bush administration lies, of course, is that the citizenry was persuaded to launch a wretched war, a war that will haunt the nation for decades."
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 11:43 PM
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23. Well indict somebody already. Times's a wastin! On a more serious
note I agree with those who feel that Fitzgerald is building a case.
I, on the other hand, want this to burst open like a Mount Vesuvius
type zit replete with screaming villagers. Right now.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 01:13 AM
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24. Gee what a teeny little story this is.
As though they're still trying to fly under the radar here.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 01:41 AM
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26. It's about time that people who actually do bad things have to lawyer up.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 05:03 AM
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28. When will they subpoena the Washington Times and the moonie?
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 05:27 AM
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29. BWAAAAAAAAAAA
It couldn't have happened to a more ethical journalist.
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 05:50 AM
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30. Uhh..oh...Fitzgerald's trying to run out the clock...
He's stringing out the subpoenas one at a time, rather than batching them like any other criminal investigation. And in each case he knows the "journalist" will file a motion to quash...which will take six weeks to sort out.

He's honest enough to issue subpoenas to the right people...
but corrupt enough to stonewall the case until after the election.

:grr:
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 09:52 AM
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36. "corrupt enough to stonewall the case until after the election"
Why did you say this? Do you have some evidence that he's anything less than a dedicated public servant doing a thorough job?

I'll settle for an anecdote if that's all you have.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 04:20 PM
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40. There's no evidence Fitzgerald is anything
but a dedicated prosecutor who knows what he's doing. His strategy was to get the court ruling backing him up BEFORE subpoenaing the journalists with the most to reveal, such as Miller, Walter Pincus, etc.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 06:32 AM
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31. Kick
Kick
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 08:15 AM
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32. That made my morning
Judith Miller is a disgrace to the TRUE journalists out there (how few of them it seems), who aren't pandering corporate media whores more interested in their stock options and personal publicity than about getting information to the people.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 08:16 AM
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33. Judith Miller's nickname in the newsroom -- I kid you not...
Told this by a friend, a former Washington Post writer, who knows Miller and even attended her wedding.

Behind her back, the other reporters call her "The C**t."
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 09:31 AM
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34. How can a government official doing the job we pay them to do (talking...
...to the press) be a confidential source?

Even if that employee tells the reporter the information is not for attribution (or whatever), how can you say that a person sitting at a desk the taxpayers paid for, talking on a phone for which the taxpayers are paying the long distance bill, doing a job for which that person draws a check from the public treasury is acting in a confidential capacity?

These government people are not whitleblowers and their not private parties, acting in the capacity of private citizens. They're doing their jobs.

I do not understand how you can have a confidential relationship with a public employee acting in their capacity as a public employee.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 09:33 AM
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35. Miller Time (Again) old article but interesting.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 11:16 AM
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37. kick
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 04:23 PM
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41. Reap what you've sown Judy the Whore!
Personally I think they should use newly legal torture techniques on Judith.

"A little waterboarding and she'll coo like a dove and give up who told her..."

Where's Lynndie England when you need her? Not to mention the Bushevik Hessians who ordered her to do it.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 04:32 PM
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42. Tom!! how could you? That statement is outrageous..................
and I love it, keep up the good work :evilgrin:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 07:24 PM
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44. I hope they ask the 'journalists' three questions - were you offered
money? Were you told that you would not be alone if you outed Plame - that it could be arranged so that other 'journalists' would leak in tandem in a ploy to deflect the crime? Were you told that she was only an employee, implying a lower status than she held?
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 07:30 PM
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45. Couldn't happen to a more
deserving mediawhore. Even if she's not involved in this, she helped push our country into a needless war causing thousands of deaths. I believe she's capable of doing anything to help the * administration.
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