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SmileMaker Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 11:36 PM
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NYT: KBR -$385 million for building temporary US detention centers
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/04/national/04halliburto...

Halliburton Subsidiary Gets Contract to Add Temporary Immigration Detention Centers
By RACHEL L. SWARNS
Published: February 4, 2006

WASHINGTON, Feb. 3 The Army Corps of Engineers has awarded a contract worth up to $385 million for building temporary immigration detention centers to Kellogg Brown & Root, the Halliburton subsidiary that has been criticized for overcharging the Pentagon for its work in Iraq.

KBR would build the centers for the Homeland Security Department for an unexpected influx of immigrants, to house people in the event of a natural disaster or for new programs that require additional detention space, company executives said. KBR, which announced the contract last month, had a similar contract with immigration agencies from 2000 to last year.

The contract with the Corps of Engineers runs one year, with four optional one-year extensions. Officials of the corps said that they had solicited bids and that KBR was the lone responder.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 11:51 PM
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1. Thank you, Rachel. Now, run home before it gets dark.
n/t
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 11:57 PM
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2. ...new programs that require additional detention space.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 02:18 PM
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30. Part of the war on terrorism. We're gonna need space for
domestic terrorists--Quakers, libberuls, Sheehanites, women that wear pink or black, democRATS that refuse to join the DLC...you know.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 09:16 PM
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61. A few granola bars will make you King Rat.
The new Chimp Economy: Barter in detention camps.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 11:59 PM
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3. Immigration - yeah right. Wake up America.
Edited on Sat Feb-04-06 12:04 AM by shance
n/t
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:01 AM
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4. "or for new programs that require additional detention space,"
its right there in the open.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:13 AM
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6. This could be bad news for "civil disobedience".
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 08:23 AM
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20. Did you read the other paragraph which alluded to that?!?
Third from the bottom of the article:

"She added that she could not provide additional information about the company's statement that the contract was also meant to support the rapid development of new programs."

She = "A spokeswoman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Jamie Zuieback"
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 10:09 AM
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22. That's worrisome to me. Did KBR slip something out in their statement
that they shouldn't have? Is this something that's explicitly in the contract or one of those "meeting of the minds" verbal agreements? Just what the heck does it mean? I would think that if it was meant to cover temporary shelter, like the article states they did for Katrina, that she would have said that.

"Could not provide additional information"...that's pretty wide open. She doesn't know, it's confidential, it's wide open to interpretaton? Why couldn't she?

Another point, that's a huge sum of money just to "be on retainer". What's exactly included in that payment? How much was their 2000 contract worth and what did we get out of that one?
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 09:08 PM
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33. Okay, now that's shocking.
Really, that's just a stunner. "New programs"?!!!!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:08 AM
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5. glad to see that the NYT has finally looked at this story
I posted this contract on January 24 - the Ole Gray Lady is a bit slow :eyes:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:18 AM
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7. "new programs that require additional detention space"
There getting ready to round us up.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 07:40 AM
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17. That was my first thought too!
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who's seeing things as they really are.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 11:05 AM
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25. Maybe we should develop a new "shorthand" for "Get Ready for the Gulags"..
Refer to it here as "GRFG" plan.

Seriously. This IS serious, and WILL by-pass most of middle America's "scope" until it is FAR too late.

God (and I say this non-religiously) help us all!
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 10:25 PM
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48. hmmmmmmm
creeeeeepy as hell. what 'new programs' ?
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rg302200 Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:19 AM
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8. Well...
Looks like us liberals could be spending a lot more time together. We better stay of DU before they track us down.....

By the way I Hear Venezuela is nice!

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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:57 AM
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9. I posted this on Jan. 24 in LBN
KBR awarded Homeland Security contract worth up to $385M

12:19pm 01/24/06
KBR awarded Homeland Security contract worth up to $385M (HAL) By Katherine Hunt

KBR, the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton Co., said Tuesday it has been awarded a contingency contract from the Department of Homeland Security to support its Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities in the event of an emergency.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/newsfinder/pulseone.asp...

Lori Price
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 09:48 AM
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38. I posted it then in GD
The NYT is way late on this story - it was in the financial news weeks ago.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 01:06 AM
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10. Heh? Well That's Sorta Frightening
n/t
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 01:18 AM
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11. Oh Joy
So at this particular point in time America
suddenly needs over a quarter billion $ worth of
new "detention facilities"

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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 01:49 AM
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12. KBR built the "Tiger Cages" at GTMO too
This is just a hunch, but my guess is a big round up of immigrant Democrats, right before the election, in areas in the south and in areas near the Mexican border where an "at risk" ReThug is running for re-election.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 04:09 AM
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13. Concentration camps are our solution to what?
The next hurricane season? We plan to put people in them and let them out...when?

Prisoners of disaster?

A way to control press access to victims?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 09:49 AM
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39. Yes, the next Katrina survivors will not luxuriate at the Astrodome
They will be imprisoned.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 06:45 AM
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14. Nah.... they are for people trying to GET OUT, not in!
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 06:51 AM
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15. They are not even fazed
by giving huge contracts, where other contractors are available (their excuse initially for giving so many contract to KBR and Halliburton in the early days of reconstruction in Iraq), to a company that has so egregiously defrauded the government and taxpayers.

How icky is this statement: "...or for new programs that require additional detention space" ? Notice in this phrase the term immigrant has been dropped and is left wide open for who might be involved in the new programs that require additional detention space.

While not a tinfoiler - these folks almost force me to pull some tin foil out periodically.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 07:34 AM
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16. I can not read the article. Could someone who has, please
tell me if the writer here explores the issue of "new programs that require additional detention space". Or does she let that little gem go?

:hide:
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 08:02 AM
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19. She lets it go
immigration,immigration,immigration
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 09:25 AM
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21. thank you
why am I not surprised. :(
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 09:46 AM
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37. try this >
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 07:59 AM
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18. In order to justify the expenditure...
one would almost think that they would have to utilize these facilities in order to justify the expenditure to the taxpayer. How soon remains to be answered.
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 10:41 AM
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23. Something is wrong here. A $385 million contract because something
MAY happen is bull. Either they know something we don't know or its a cushy give away for KBR.

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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 03:56 PM
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55. $385 million for TEMPORARY facilities
Hmmmm.

:scared:
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 11:03 AM
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24. Thought we established a long time ago they HAD hundreds of these places
on U.S. soil. We just wondered WHEN they were begin USING them on U.S. citizens? Now that they're officially announcing the "building" of what already exists....in the New York Times...that means they have "everything in place," and are ready for "natural disasters", and laws and judges that will put dissenters there.

Question IS why is KBR NOW getting additional funding, when the places already exist? Unless it's just to pay the staffing and operating costs(including "disappearance" of detainees/bodies"). Or just another excuse to give Billions to themselves again in the name of "protecting the Homeland."

Questions IS: WHOSE 'homes' and well-being will they be protecting? Hint: Not yours or mine.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 11:10 AM
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26. Maureen Dowd mentioned this today
There are simply too many of us - almost 60% of Americans disapprove of Bush!! Halliburton would be building for many years to house all of us. Really.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 07:52 AM
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36. I'm not so sanguine.
I hardly think all (or even many) Bush opponents will end up in pens. Still...

Reliably in history, oppressors make examples of a few, and then the many become still.

Also, do not underrate the American Puritan appetite. Public punishment was a spectator sport in this country for many decades, and the taste hasn't been lost (cf. McCarthyism, the impeachment of Bill Clinton, and the Ordeal of Janet Jackson's Nipple). With the failure in Iraq and the end of the housing bubble, the hunger will rise again.
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Marleyb Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:00 PM
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27. Halliburton detention camps for political subversives
Alex Jones has attended numerous military urban warfare training drills across the US where role players were used to simulate arresting American citizens and taking them to internment camps.

The move towards the database state in the US and the UK, where every offence is arrestable and DNA records of every suspect, even if later proven innocent, are permanently kept on record, is the only tool necessary to create a master list of subversives that would be subject to internment in a manufactured time of national emergency.

The national ID card is also intended to be used for this purpose, just as the Nazis used early IBM computer punch card technology to catalogue lists of homosexuals, gypsies and Jews before the round-ups began.


http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=10191
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:56 PM
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28. Rex84 (eom)
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 01:01 PM
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29. I fished this out from an old bookmark
NVMojo (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-10-05 02:31 AM
Original message
Pentagon devising scenarios for martial law in US
9 August 2005

According to a report published Monday by the Washington Post, the Pentagon has developed its first ever war plans for operations within the continental United States, in which terrorist attacks would be used as the justification for imposing martial law on cities, regions or the entire country.

The front-page article cites sources working at the headquarters of the militarys Northern Command (Northcom), located in Colorado Springs, Colorado. The plans themselves are classified, but officers who drafted the plans gave details to Post reporter Bradley Graham, who was recently given a tour of Northcom headquarters at Peterson Air Force Base. The article thus appears to be a deliberate leak conducted for the purpose of accustoming the American population to the prospect of military rule.

According to Graham, the new plans provide for what several senior officers acknowledged is the likelihood that the military will have to take charge in some situations, especially when dealing with mass-casualty attacks that could quickly overwhelm civilian resources.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/aug2005/mart-a09.shtm ...

Spying on Americans! Brought to you by the Department of Homeland INsecurity

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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 08:44 PM
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31. Just saw this in the Times
Very disturbing. Thanks for posting it here.
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appleannie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 08:59 PM
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32. If this was really
about illegal immigrants, wouldn't it make more sense to secure our borders? So what do they really need detention centers for? People like us that disagree with them?
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 09:23 PM
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34. They are getting ready for another MIHOP aka MIHOP2
It's obviously going to be a biggie! :nuke:
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 07:04 AM
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35. Damn. Reluctantly, I agree with you.
I just know that these f***ers are going to pull some kind of crap like this. Fear is their mantra, and this would solidify their base.

These pigs won't leave quietly. Of course, we all know this.

:scared:
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 01:29 PM
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40. Kick...this is incredible!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 02:50 PM
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42. Truly. My suspicious mind went straight there.
I've said in the past that they can't build enough Gitmos to hold us all. But now, I'm no longer sure about that.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 02:46 PM
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41. But the repukes are NOT just like the NAZI'S! Stop saying that!
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 10:06 PM
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43. kick
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jcv1 Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 10:06 PM
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44. Hallibuton subsidiary KBR given contract for US detention camps
This is getting a little out of hand....

http://presstelegram.com/search/ci_3470080
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 10:07 PM
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45. come and get me!
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 10:07 PM
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46. Read The Halliburton Agenda by Briody.
It's an eye opener. This company got its start with Johnson and spent a lot of money getting him elected and elevated to a high position. It built military facilities for most, but not all of the military adventures of our country since Johnson. Facinating history. As I said, the book is an eye opener.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 10:07 PM
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47. Who's gonna get the oven contracts?
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warsager Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 10:37 PM
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49. where are they going to
be building these detention centers? Anyone have a clue?

This really gives me a creepy feeling. But the thing is, to even imagine the scenarios this could imply, well its so awful that my brain immediately dumps it into the, 'no, that's too absurd to be possible, dismiss' category.

Yikes.

Well, come on guys, its not like the government has been spying on us or anything that could cause concern!! :freak:


You know, this little guy is really kinda of cute :tinfoilhat: Let's just hope this is all it is, right??

Seriously, if anyone knows the answer to my question, that'd be great.

Cheers.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 04:37 AM
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50. Okay, well that's nauseating. K&R
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 10:34 AM
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51. Google Rex-84 and see what this is really all about. n/t
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 03:26 PM
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53. Yup, you got it. And do you know what REX-84 stands for?
Readiness Exercise 1984

eerie, huh?
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:01 AM
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52. Man this is crazy n/t
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 03:35 PM
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54. more info on this horrifying project
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html

There over 600 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States.

The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a mass exodus of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.

Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation.

The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people.

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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 04:04 PM
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56. A couple months ago
I had a dream in which my husband and I were taken to a detention camp set up in the parking lot of the Wal-Mart in my hometown, where were had to live with our child in a cardboard shack about four feet high. Then, I thought it was just indicative of me watching one too many documentaries about the Holocaust that week. Now, I'm wondering how prescient it was.
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 04:40 PM
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58. T. rex ancestor found in China


"The new 'crowned dragon' of Xinjiang is simply the latest discovery on the trail
leading back to the origin of the tyrant kings,"

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/02/09...

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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 04:14 PM
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57. a short history of REX-84
Add up Homeland Security, FEMA, bypassed FISA laws, Unitarian Executive, a right wing supreme court..and what do you get? You guessed it. This is DAMN creepy.

Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, was a plan by the United States federal government to test their ability to detain large numbers of American citizens in case of massive civil unrest or national emergency. Exercises similar to Rex 84 happen periodically. From 1967 to 1971 the FBI kept a list of persons to be rounded up as subversive, dubbed the "ADEX" list. (Donner, Age p. 166.)

The Rex-84 Alpha Explan (Readiness Exercise 1984, Exercise Plan), indicates that FEMA in association with 34 other federal civil departments and agencies conducted a civil readiness exercise during April 5-13, 1984. It was conducted in coordination and simultaneously with a Joint Chiefs exercise, Night Train 84, a worldwide military command post exercise (including Continental U.S. Forces or CONUS) based on multi-emergency scenarios operating both abroad and at home. In the combined exercise, Rex-84 Bravo, FEMA and DOD led the other federal agencies and departments, including the Central Intelligence Agency, the Secret Service, the Treasury, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Veterans Administration through a gaming exercise to test military assistance in civil defense.
The exercise anticipated civil disturbances, major demonstrations and strikes that would affect continuity of government and/or resource mobilization. To fight subversive activities, there was authorization for the military to implement government ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels, the arrest of certain unidentified segments of the population, and the imposition of martial rule. <1>
Existence of a master military contingency plan, "Garden Plot" and a similar earlier exercise, "Lantern Spike" were originally revealed by alternative journalist Ron Ridenhour, who summarized his findings in "Garden Plot and the New Action Army", (CounterSpy, 1975).
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Gingergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:52 PM
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59. I suspect that the additional buildings are in case
of another terrorist strike in the U.S., the bush administration might order the mass detention of all Muslims, Arabs, Arab-Americans, etc.in America as happened to the Japanese-Americans during World War II. The U.S. also took in Japanese, German, and Italian (non-military) civilians from Central and South America during World War II.) Just a frightening thought but nothing seems outside the realm of possibility any more.
<http://www.foitimes.com />
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 09:13 PM
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60. The freeps used to believe in black helicopters & detention camps
now it's us - and now they're the big government making big spenders and we're the ones calling for fiscal responsibility and freedom from government surveillance.

Lawd how things change in 20 or so years. I wonder what the situation will be in 2026? Let me guess - the Freeps will be fighting for abortion rights and we'll be clamoring for war against some third world nation ...
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:50 PM
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62. That wasn't that long ago friend...
it was the early to mid nineties. My how times have changed. They are now supporting the very thing they feared: Government intrusion, spying, jack-booted thugs, detention camps and secret prisons, NATION BUILDING.... Its amazing to me the hypocricy. Oh, and how about the gun supporters? Looks like the neocons are coming after them next.
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