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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 10:49 PM
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American Muslims Told to Leave Major U.S. Cities
An Al Qaeda (search) Web site is running a warning issued to Muslims to leave Washington D.C., New York City and Los Angeles because of implied imminent terrorist attacks, according to the Middle East Media Research Institute.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102179,00.html

Okay, I know. Fox News. Has anyone seen this reported elsewhere.

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squanto Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 10:52 PM
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1. Nice group of people.
So they'd like the Jewish, Christian and Atheist babies to stay in place huh?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 10:54 PM
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4. Not to mention the Hindus and Buddhists and some sects
Too obscure to remember.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 10:55 PM
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:08 AM
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26. Memri? You make a judgement based on Memri crap?
Wow.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 09:14 AM
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47. I can't believe that you would fall for this. More 'be afraid at all times
so you don't notice what the Bush Crime Family has done or is doing' Please don't fall for this BS propaganda by Faux and the evil WH.
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 09:50 AM
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51. Just keep on hating those Arabs and Muslims folks...just keep on.
I wonder who will really be behind the next strike in America?
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 10:53 PM
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2. MEMRI is a great source for the Washington-Tel Aviv take on things
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 10:56 PM
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6. MEMRI cannot even be cited in the I/P forum, per DU rules
that should tell our fellow DUers something about this hate mongering website which specializes in translating the most hateful speeches from the most hateful Islamists, and present them as representative of all Muslims.

This is like portraying the gay-hating Rev. Phelps as representative of Christianity.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 11:02 PM
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10. Well, the Global Islamic Media site is a sparkle, and you can check the

real jihad sites to see that it's not on them.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 10:58 PM
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8. It's been reported on Debka as well.

Go to www.debka.com and page down about one third of the way in the centre column and look for the banner "Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles."

There are allegations that Debka.com has connections to Israeli intelligence sources.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:36 AM
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13. Debka is usually pretty right on. That warning is not a good sign.
:frown:
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:47 AM
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20. They are usually right on a strategic spot in Ariel Sharon's voluminous

underpants
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:11 AM
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27. Devka is a Mossad disinformation tool. C'mon!
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 02:30 AM by Tinoire
Do you not remember all their reports about hordes of Chinese massing to fight with the Afghans?
If you place your faith in Devka, you might as well telephone Sharon directly and get the propaganda from the source... Truth mixed in with self-serving lies so you "know" who to blame (the Muslims) if/when something happens- that's all Devka is.
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tlb Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:44 AM
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41. Debka is an odd information site.
It is either right on the money, or totally wrong. There isn't much in-between.

The problem is it is right too often to ignore, and wrong too often to ever act on it's information until you find independent sources that agree.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:53 AM
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46. Debka said the Chinese were heading to Afghanistan to fight the Americans.
so I can bet they're real real accurate..

*cough*
*cough*
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 10:54 PM
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 10:57 PM
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7. This is too stupid for words
sounds like a great way to get people suspicious of Muslims again.Oh,it's from Fox....say no more.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 11:01 PM
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9. Yeah...ummm....riiiiggght....
:eyes:

You know, I get a strange feeling that some people want to
demonize Muslims. Is it me...? Me thinks not...
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 11:02 PM
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11. I live in NY, am looking to you all to shoot holes in this
not me
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 11:18 PM
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12. here you go: The bush regime is about to crank the Crusade up a notch

They are moving troops, planes around like anything and are getting tuned up to either carpetbomb Iraq again, invade Iran, or depopulate Afghanistan. I don't pretend to know which.

But it will involve the slaughter of a lot more Muslims, which will tickle the regime loyalists and Crusade fans pink, but to err on the side of caution they want to make sure that the Islamophobia pot is kept well-stirred.

I think it is like the cover ban. They mistakenly think that Us troop deaths would erode support for the Crusade, forgetting that most of those troops were considered undesirable by the voting class before they ever joined the army, and disposable now that they have, and they don't need to worry.

Nor do they need to worry that there will be anything more than isolated pockets of mild protest, that will be drowned out by the cheers, when they bomb whoever they are tuning up to bomb.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:47 AM
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15. Ductape, this is the only post of yours (probably) I've agreed with.......
at least what I've seen of your posts in GD.....sounds like you hang out alot in IP which I don't go into, but there's probably "grim truth" in what you say here. :nuke:
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:45 AM
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19. LOL thanks, I think.

it is damn hard to avoid grim truth these days :P
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:14 AM
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28. The thing I fear is another LIHOP/MIHOP somewhere
People are becoming too "soft" on terrorism- talking about bringing the troops home and all so a little home-grown induced terror won't hurt. There is no low to which the Bush cabal will not sink to get what they want.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:33 AM
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30. Forget LIHOP and MIHOP - upgrade to DIFOM!

did it for oodles of money ;)
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itcfish Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 09:52 AM
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52. Me Too!
I live and work in NY. Everythime I get on the subway and fear comes over me. Everytime I see a group of Arab men my anxiety level goes up. I know my fears are stupid, but being stuck in the tunnels of the NYC subway system with no way out makes one nutsy. :kick:


:crazy:


:shrug:
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:45 AM
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14. if there were any terrorist here...
they wouldn't be waiting so long.

this is all part of the FEAR AGENDA imo.

i was much more concerned with russia then some terrorist jihad thousands of miles away though i will admit a real fear of the TERRORIST in the WH :scared:

peace
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:02 AM
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16. Just an interesting coincidence
Troops and planes on the moves, cryptic warnings from al Qaeda, all at a time when Bunnypants* ratings are dipping down below 50%.

Another attack would rocket Imperial Approval Ratings back into the 70s at least.

One wonders...
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:29 AM
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17. Just try to think of it as a "Unity Operation"

That sounds so much nicer, don't you think?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:39 AM
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18. Let's call it "Operation Enduring Agony"
Bush is rolling some scary, motherf*ckin' dice. He needs a 9 and an 11.

C'mon, baby needs a new pair of shoes....
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belab13 Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:15 AM
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56. LOL, thanks for brightening my day!
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fizzana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:48 AM
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21. As if Al Qadea are going to issue a warning on a web site
that they are about to committ a major terrorist attack in America.

Debka is run by some ex-Mossad people and they are often dead right but they are also frequently dead wrong.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:04 AM
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25. Well, they tried to get booked on O'Reilly, but

he had this guy who used to do Lacy Peterson's nails, so...
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:27 AM
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39. Exactly, and not only tell you it's coming, but tell you where.
By the way, did they give us a date too?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:34 AM
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57. Duh. Yoohoo! You over there. We're going to attack.
Could you let your guard down so it will work better?

What a bunch of crap.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:48 AM
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22. Even Rove's not stupid enough to think they (BFEE) can get away
with another 911...or maybe the fact that he committed TREASON and looks to get away with it has fortified his belief that he CAN do it again...
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:01 AM
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24. I don't think he is stupid at all, two years later and look

they're all still there, no storming the white house, some huge % of people believe it was evildoers who hate freedom and if you want to know any more than that you are a terrorist too and passenger lists and miracle passports and short sold airlines and you can still take your bic lighter on the plane today, if you want to, and the congress just rubber stamped another 87 billion to kill more Muslims, throwing Muslim kids off schoolbuses in Florida, people disappeared, people's children seized and interrogated and forget the US public, the rest of the world just keeps bending further and spreading wider - Rove doesn't need to be stupid or THINK he can get away with anything.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:27 AM
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29. But there are a lot of smart people in Congress
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 02:28 AM by Rex
granted they are self serving corporate lackeys. :(

So that's it then, we have shifted over to control via corporatism (cronyism) and not capitalism? Democracy has been sold down the river for a new Coca-Cola jingle?

You're right DuctapeFatwa, Rove doesn't have to think to fool the masses, I just have to believe that somewhere, someone is going to bring this host of corporate pirates down for the count. It keeps me sane to entertain my brain with flights of fancy.
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liberalbent Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:34 AM
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31. Bush is "smart", so is Rove
It doesn't mean a thing if they don't have both courage and heart. The Tin Man, the Scarecrow and the Lion, remember?

Congress gets more partisan, the Dems respond by getting more cautious. More worried about getting re-elected and shifting the balance of power to take a stand on anything.

Were the Republicans this weak when they were in the minority? I don't think so.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:39 AM
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32. hey, I entertain mine with dreams of Hugo Chavez raising an army

and coming in to disarm the regime, pack them off humanely to the Hague to await a fair trial, and calling in monitors from kuala lumpur and helsinki to supervise fair and open elections with complete India style polls open for a week thumbprint elections, nationalizing the oil companies, giving back the land they stole from mexico and repo-ing all the weapons from Israel.

Or alternatively, making the US a colony of Finland.

Ever since I bought those reindeer fur boots on eBay....
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:55 AM
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33. Now when you talk about the giving back of land to Mexico part
does that include Texas or just the part President Polk stole? :evilgrin:
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:05 AM
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34. Well, by now, what with interest and penalties and late fees

It includes pretty much everything from Panama City to Seattle, but Montana might be negotiable.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 09:53 AM
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53. It's Not Just Getting Away With It
This time, an attack could not be blamed on another president's "failed" foreign policy. Another attack would be put directly at the feet of Georgie and pals, as evidence of the failure of preventive war.

All the tough talk and aggressive action will look like, even to the masses, as the CAUSE of the attack.

I'd say that from a political POV, the last thing Georgie and gang want is another attack on U.S. soil. While a 2 week bump in polls MIGHT happen, come election time, his FAILURES would be the Dems raison d'etre.
The Professor
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:57 AM
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23. The Al Quaeda members I know were basically
talking about "the big one" in Baghdad... once again FOX obfuscation...

(tongue firmly in cheek)
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Resistance Is Futile Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:12 AM
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35. Questionable reliability.
Al Qaida has not been known to issue specific warnings in advance.

The timing with regard to popularity of the idiot king's crusade is also extremely convinent.
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papertiger Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:12 AM
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36. My how Al Queda has fallen
Your right sort of. I mean those among you who choose to iggy this threat. For whatever reason, Al Queda never ever telegraphs their blows. THis is just them blowing smoke. They can't hurt nobody when their running for their lives.
They seem to be using Lil Kim's playbook.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:17 AM
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37. When Osama shows up on Al-Jazeera TV...
... bad, bad things follow.

So, in a sense, they do telegraph their blows. I'm not sure about this specific case; I'm quite doubtful, actually, but never-ever? I wouldn't be so sure about that.
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OKHRANA Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:18 AM
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38. RW politics
feeding stories through Fox and Debka to spread general fear everywhere so boy bush could come to the rescue...coincidentally right as the 04 campaign is about to start...WHAT A COINCIDENCE!

too much RW political games for me...and too depressing...

bonus for them: the post in the Al Qaeda web site advising Muslims to leave 3 U.S. cities now. Problem is, they've done this before, a lot. No, it just fits in with the other plan....though that wasn't the terrorist intention.

but there is the Skulls and Bones link in all this, the one of the "New World Order" that Skulls is behind...this is very spooky territory...

Skulls alumni presidents bush sr and boy bush. Also "Teddy" Roosevelt and Robert Taft (and high officials around all presidents the last 100+ years). Impressive that 4 presidents belonged to any one power hungry group/cult requiring members to get in a coffin with the bones of a dead person, dedicated to their eventual control of the world. Scary is a better word once you get to know the Skulls better...And they laugh all these things off as just crazy stuff college kids do...

Bush Sr. also former head of CIA (Skulls types flock to intelligence serviices for some reason). was while in his CIA capacity in the "vicinity" of JFK assassination, then in "vicinity" of Reagan assassination attempt. In fact, Bush family was close to the Hinckley family, and Bush Boy before he was famous in 1982 issued famous non-denial denial of personally knowing Hinckley (both and brother Neil Bush went to same school in TX)... Think about this a bit. What are the odds of something like this happenning?

BTW, Skulls brother (1863?) Teddy Roosevelt became President by way of assassination...using same old "signature" technique perfected in CIA mind control reasearch, of using middle-men to set up brainwashed "patsies".

Forgotten too is that Ross Perot abruptly withdrew from the presidential race in 92 in July, when his poll numbers were sky high, for no apparent reason! Perot did say his daughter had been threatened with blackmail over some pictures, but the truth is Perot's life was threatened by "dark forces" unless he quit the race...

Turns out years later in 96 CIA operative Chip Tatum (here is a link: http://www.leopoldreport.com/Pegasus.html#ankare726150 or do a Google on him) signed a sworn affidavid that he was issued a sanction in 92 on Perot's life by Bush Sr. who cited "national security" imperatives (there are copies provided in some sites of another Bush Sr. directive to Tatum), and that Tatum saw this for what it was, an attempt to get rid of a political opponent, not the "preserve national security" bs ..and he refused the sanction and went to and did warn Perot (the letter to Perot is also posted)... Perot, also a former CIA operative took some time behind the scenes and eventually got back in the race...at that point only to ensure that Bush Sr. lost in 92.

This does/ if you paid some attention to Perot over the years, explain why this guy so utterly detests Bush Sr. which clearly comes out in interviews over the years. This behavior by Perot is totally inconsistent with his behavior about anybody else...and Perot reserves it just for Bush Sr., he says real nice things about Bush Boy. Very very interesting area, but scary as hell.

Too many things come back to Bush Sr. Going after Perot a 3rd party candidate in 92 is not unlike patsy Arthur Bremer went after 3rd party candidate George Wallace in 1972, who was also taking votes away from Nixon; or from going after RFK in 1968 right after he won the California primary, because RFK would probably beat Nixon in 1968. Again, CIA operative Bush Sr. in the "vicinity". With JFK and McKinley patsies were used too, and interests of Skulls involved in all...





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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:20 AM
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40. Al Qaeda sure hates liberals. Those are all extremely liberal areas
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 05:23 AM by w4rma
being allegedly targeted.

I wonder what percentage of the Republican Party would shrug and say, "good riddance you liberals voters" if a nuke blew up LA.
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CivilRightsNow Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:07 AM
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42. SoCal liberal?
You forget how much money matters. And huge military installations.

In my experience SoCal is very very republican, including LA.
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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:26 AM
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43. Al Qaeda hates the economy
New York = the heart of our economy, the center of the media, the focus of Western civilization.

Washington = the heart of our government.

L.A. = The center of the film industry, which has a worldwide impact on culture; a media center; an economic center with ties to the Far East.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 09:37 AM
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50. Exactly what I was thinking...
I'm surprised San Francisco isn't on the list.
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:37 AM
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44. My inlaws called us last night over this topic
This "info" was played in Tampa Bay Florida, WTVT Channel 13 last night. A fox channel. I thought about posting this information but I couldn't find it on a hard copy anywhere.

Wonder why no other "news" network but fox would cover it?
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 10:46 AM
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54. why no other "news" network but fox would cover it?
Because it isn't news.

Fox and Newsmax are propaganda machines. This is an attempt to stir up hatred against people.

If it plays well in freeperville it is obviously an untruth and this plays well in freeperville.
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JM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:43 AM
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45. According to my source...
...there is nothing imminent on the horizon for the continental U.S. He meets with DHS, FBI, SS, etc. in a fairly regular basis, and is deep into anti-cyberterror, so I trust his judgement. We follow his flight schedules religiously, so I doubt he is feeding me disinfo. He also gave us the green light on D.C. for a trip this weekend...

Nice to have this kind of source.

Later,
JM
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 09:16 AM
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48. thanks
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 09:29 AM
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49. yawn! debka blather
wonder why they want to stir things up?
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:00 AM
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55. Just A Trial Run for Next Year's Scare-Em-2004-AWOL-Reelection
bid. Rove is just making sure all of his minions are in place and ready to put out the pertinent information at the most politically beneficial time.
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