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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 08:30 PM
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FBI Investigates Grand Rapids Co. (does defense industry softwr/hardware)
Grand Rapids - The FBI is investigating a Grand Rapids company tonight.

At about 8am this morning agents raided the Cybernet Group on Division.

They told dozens of employees to leave, while they went through the building and confiscated computers.

Agents won't say what they're looking for, but they did tell us that they were executing two search warrants.

Cybernet has more than a dozen offices worldwide.
http://www.wzzm13.com/news/grmetro_article.aspx?storyid...
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 08:33 PM
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1. strange.
It's either Bin Laden or election fraud or porn. Take your pick.
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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 08:41 PM
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2. probably porn
n/t
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lilpnut Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 08:44 PM
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3. are you from GR? n/t
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Ima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 08:57 PM
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4. They are into a lot of things.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 08:58 PM
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5. The should check out Calvin college, may be election related.
nt
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:07 PM
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6. The CyberNET Group hosts Internet Web sites ....
The CyberNET Group hosts Internet Web sites for companies and holds electronic data for them. The company is based in Grand Rapids with 120 employees, and another 550 worldwide in Chicago, Las Vegas, the United Kingdom, Philippines, Australia, Hong Kong and China.

Sources tell 24 Hour News 8 the investigation involves wire mail fraud and bank fraud. The allegations are something the company's owner and CEO Barton Watson is familiar with, as he was convicted of fraud in the 1980s. He served three years in a federal prison and was released in 1989.

Full story at WOTV.COM: http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2578803&nav=0R...
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:34 PM
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7. Hmmm.. there are two around
http://www.cybernet.com / in Ann Arbor, MI for defense

It sounds like you've got the right one there...
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:51 PM
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9. more from their news...
Department of Defense Awards Cybernet Systems $720,000 to Develop Virtual Prototyping Simulation Software

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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:39 PM
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8. They are related to this company
http://www.halcyonsoft.com/company.asp?s=4

Stryon Merger Creates Global Leader in Legacy Application Migration
GRAND RAPIDS, Mich., June 18, 2002 -

Stryon Inc. (http://www.stryon.com ) a former division of CyberCo Holdings, has merged with Halcyon Software, Inc. forming a new company dedicated to the demands for high quality software development with a special focus on the migration of business applications written in legacy languages. Both companies have combined their global expertise to help businesses that wish to match the performance, functionality and value of their existing applications and systems to the fastest and most proficient technologies.

"Many companies have a tremendous investment in mission critical applications developed in COBOL, RPG, Visual Basic, C/C++ and other languages that represent impediments to the portability and deployability of those applications," says Don Hsi, Chief Technology Officer of Stryon. "Our mission is to develop the best solutions to minimize the costs and risks associated with major changes when migrating those applications to; for example, Java technology J2EE platform environments or the Microsoft .NET environments."

The merger, which retained the name Stryon, has spent over 13-years managing international development activities and operating multiple software development centers in North America and Asia including China and Pakistan.

Utilizing an impressive array of proprietary tools developed by Halcyon, such as the revolutionary iASP and iNET products, Stryon is now able to provide accelerated deployment and conversion services based on proven quality control methodologies -- at significant cost benefits. According to Paul Blossom, Chief Operating Officer of Stryon, "Our distinction in the marketplace is to provide local, face-to-face systems analysis, project management and systems architecture services to our clients while sending the actual application coding offshore. This structure allows us to provide a high-touch client experience at an extraordinarily attractive cost."

The new company Stryon is closely affiliated with The CyberNET Group, a global systems integration firm headquartered in the United States specializing in thin client architecture, application deployment and data center outsourcing. The CyberNET Group has operations throughout North America, Europe, South Africa, Asia and Australia. "The merger with Halcyon brings tremendous capabilities to Stryon," said Barton Watson, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of The CyberNET Group. "Stryon can now provide a scope of application services never before available to middle market companies and enterprise accounts."

Stryon saves money for companies wanting to get the most out of their existing software applications by effectively cutting the costs associated with staff re-training, support, operations interruptions and errors which can be encountered when upgrading and integrating both customized and packaged software over various operating environments.


But a quick look for all the names didn't show any obvious election connection.
I just wondered because Bush and Cheney made a lot of trips to Grand Rapids
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Ima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:00 AM
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10. something else
CyberNet Group Buys Ayala Data Center
November 15, 2004 -- (WEB HOST INDUSTRY REVIEW) -- Busines process outsourcing Firm the CyberNet Group (cybernet-usa.com) announced this week that it had acquired a 60 percent controlling interest in the AyalaPort Makati data center in the Philippines, taking over management of the facility, and renaming it CNG Global Data Hub.

The Ayala Group retained a 30 percent minority share in the facility, of which 10 percent is owned by independent shareholder Internet Inititative Japan.

Privately owned CNG did not disclose the exact details of the transaction. The new management said there would be no dramatic changes in the way the data center is managed


http://thewhir.com/marketwatch/cyb111504.cfm
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:46 AM
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11. are they code hackers by any coincidence?
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 03:58 AM
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12. They can BE hacked
As earlier post noted:"The new company Stryon is closely affiliated with The CyberNET Group" and Barton Watson is part of after merger in 6/2002. Stryon seems to have a flaw without a fix reported.

But I don't know computer language or what this is used for that might relate.But here it is.

www.securitytracker.com :
Stryon Instant ASP (iASP) Input Validation Flaw Discloses Files on the System to Remote Users. Read More

http://www.securitytracker.com/alerts/2002/Dec/1005809....
Category: Application (Generic) > iASP Vendors: Stryon
Stryon Instant ASP (iASP) Input Validation Flaw Discloses Files on the System to Remote Users

SecurityTracker Alert ID: 1005809
CVE Reference: GENERIC-MAP-NOMATCH (Links to External Site)
Date: Dec 13 2002

Impact: Disclosure of system information, Disclosure of user information

Exploit Included: Yes

Version(s): 1.0.9 and prior versions

Description: A file disclosure vulnerability was reported in Stryon's Instant ASP (iASP) in the Remote Console Applet. A remote user can view arbitrary files on the system.

Fate Research Laboratories reported that a remote user can connect to the applet on port 9095 and supply a URL containing '../' directory traversal characters to obtain files on the system.

A demonstration exploit URL is provided:

http://< ;hostname> :9095/../../../../../../etc/passwd

The vendor has reportedly been notified.

Impact: A remote user can obtain files from the target user's server while the applet is running.

Solution: No solution was available at the time of this entry.

Vendor URL: www.stryon.com/products.asp?s=1 (Links to External Site)

Cause: Access control error, Input validation error
Underlying OS: Linux (Any), UNIX (Any), Windows (Any)
Reported By: "ph33r" <ph33r@fatelabs.com >
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 08:02 AM
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13. Here we go:
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 08:28 AM by jbnow
From another post http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.c...

In part:
In the allegations report, a certain vendor described that such a network company was financing the operation through Mel Sembler and a few other bad eggs connected to the head of the game map. Another company was described as giving source to certain code.....Turns out CyberN is indeed an open source code distributor to several organizations, ultimately not even limited to voting companies. Also turns out an employee named Guitterez works(or had worked) there and created actual databases for elections across the USA and easily the globe, that are certainly not MS Access.

http://engrm.com/personnel/gutierrez-alan/experiential....

Also interestingly enough, the state and F.B.I just barely seized CyberNET Ventures Inc capital in Michigan state for all of its computer systems. Every single last one, in one large effort, and refused to state why they had them seized and impounded.

More interesting though, is the fact that if you look and sniff around it appears CyberNET (who is also, direct finance of the white house and ambassador) had its systems freely distributed among universities...Schools, teaching sites, and so on everywhere. And more interestingly also worldwide.

But the most interesting part of all, is CyberNET's own interest in Diebold, and helping them out of some dirty circumstances....

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:mk1BGFoCVrkJ:www.eff...

And of course on top of all this, ChoicePoint government who controls voting name rosters, being issued by Jeb Bush to directly not only take off the felon purge lists, but keep them as well. Authorities issued repeated orders for him to turn it off and instead he saved all the names to some hard drive and area around there in order to use them all again later.

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,65377,00.html...

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dmac Donating Member (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:38 AM
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14. The last part of this is definitely untrue
"And of course on top of all this, ChoicePoint government who controls voting name rosters, being issued by Jeb Bush to directly not only take off the felon purge lists, but keep them as well. Authorities issued repeated orders for him to turn it off and instead he saved all the names to some hard drive and area around there in order to use them all again later. "

ChoicePoint has absolutely nothing to do with voting name rosters - period.

Where did this part of this story come from??? Provide a link if one exists (which I seriously doubt).



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