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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:42 AM
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151. Perhaps a bit of both?
I speak from what is these days the far left - forty years ago the same positions were moderate centrist democratic - and from my perspective we have two different kind of infiltrators.

1) 'Mainstream' DLC, "if you can't beat em, join em" types who refuse to entertain any lefty notions because "that's not where the Democratic majority is", and accuse Kucinich of being a closet Republican for his votes against compromised Democratic legislation, while explaining away, or ignoring, the conservadem votes that join with the Republicans. They try to split off the far right of the party. They say "we MUST compromise".

2) 'Radical lefty' types who take the most extreme "I'll burn the place down around me" statements, whose attitudes might appeal to the most pissed-off, but generally undermine leftist arguments by making them look off-the-wall unreasonable. They try to split off the far left of the party. They say "we must NEVER compromise".

Both are very active here.

Real lefties, OTOH, acknowledge, sometimes compromise is necessary BUT there are some people you CANNOT compromise with, no matter how hard you try (i.e., birthers). That's why we argue as far left as possible, even if you KNOW the country is not ready for that position - if you START with single-payer, you can achieve a public option. We've been compromising all our lives, and we know you cannot achieve anything be starting at the desired end point and then 'hold fast', because a compromise will then be forced on you.

By their works you shall know them.
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