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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-20-13 01:45 AM
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I am not sure yet which Democrats still believe in OASDI.
And, of course, LBJ's Great Society gave us Medicare.

A lot of the New Deal and the Great Society has already been dismantled or neutered, starting, I believe, with Jimmy Carter.

For example, under Carter, the Bankruptcy Code of 1978 replaced the Bankruptcy Act of 1934, which sought to hold the officers and directors of a bankrupt big business responsible if they had messed up the bankrupt company. The 1978 Code eliminated that.

By neutered, I mean that agencies that were originally set up to protect members of the public, at the expense of the public, now serve mostly big business, at the expense of the public.

We may never know who still believes in what because even votes are, IMO, manipulated.

For politicians and their corporate sponsors, it doesn't matter in most cases if a bill passes unanimously or by one vote. So, for instance, Amash Conyers failed narrowly. The narrowness of the failure could have been for show, to reassure the public that the politicians had really grappled with the issue. The important thing for them (and also, for different reasons), though, is that it failed.

And who voted for or against it to make it fail is important for them, too. So, you have Joe Kennedy III, a member of the House Progressive Caucus, from a liberal state voting against it, helping ensure it failed.

Surely, that cannot be kabuki? Surely, he struggled with his conscience? Or did Democrats use him to help make the bill fail because they think Massachusetts will not notice who voted how on this bill--and even if it does notice, it will never vote out a Kennedy?

I just don't know and can never know. However, I am skeptical of everything anymore and take nothing at face value.

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