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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-13 07:50 AM
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5. Bush never convinced the world either.
Those who joined us did not join us because they thought Saddam was about WMD the U.S. or anyone else. They joined because, for whatever reason, their self-interest led them to join us. Blair was even willing to join us, not only in war, but in doctoring intel. Some nations joined us in a very token way.

And some of the countries who didn't join us at all openly mocked us, like Germany and France. I saw a reporter shove a mike in the face of officials from that country--don't remember who, but it was two males--maybe UN Reps, and they actually looked at each other and snickered.

The same kind of thing will happen next time, though countries may shuffle as to which countries and which positions.

Who got convinced last time were the U.S. voters who re-elected Bush. And not even all of them were convinced. They were as much the target of Powell's dog and pony show as any nation in the U.N., probably more so. Powell was chosen to give that speech--and he knew it--because he had a lot of credibility with Americans, not because the rest of the world trusted him. they didn't. That was evident from the composition of the coalition of the willing and how many troops some of them sent.

And the same kind of thing will happen next time. American voters will be the primary reason for which the bs will be dressed up and, whether a Democrat or a Republican is in office, the media will help again. How Hagel will fit into that, if he is still around when the next thing hits the fan, I don't know. Could very well be that his pacific nature is being touted so that we will all know that, if General Powell--I mean, Senator Hagel--says we have to fight, we must really have to. Possible. I just don't know at this point.

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