Reply #50: Point them out to the cops, then, if they're wielding hammers and bats.

[MADem]

They'd have a hard time swinging a hammer if they're surrounded on all sides. If you have critical mass, you can isolate them one by one.

Look--you can put up with this, play the "powerless to stop them" game, and take the blame for their behavior, or police yourselves. Don't cry when your cause is mixed up with theirs, if you don't actively do anything to stop them and make sure that EVERYONE knows it. I'm not talking about crabbing about them on leftish message boards, I'm talking about the national media.

Don't ask me to fly across the country to Oakland to sort out your difficulties. If you're there, you need to do your own housekeeping--or be blamed for the behavior of your "unwelcome guests."

This is a peril in a "leaderless" movement. No one is there to say "Toss these fuckers out on their asses." You need to do your groupthink thing and make it happen, though, or understand that these guys can visit unwanted consequences on your efforts.