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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 03:33 PM
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66. That won't happen while there's still hope the system is self-correcting. After SS/Medicare are cut
Edited on Tue Jul-19-11 03:48 PM by leveymg
and the reality that a "recovery" has largely been an illusion fully sinks in. Emotion and reality have to coincide before people are sufficiently motivated to take drastic measures.

The emotional environment -- hopelessness, despair, anger -- have to combine with certain objective conditions -- homelessness, joblessness, and deep losses across many sectors of the economy. Systemic collapse or irreparable failure, not just sectoral weakness are prerequisites. Ted Robert Gurr, most famously, observed that frustration and aggression are interlinked, and most often revolutions occur after efforts at reform have failed and some improvement in conditions was realized. That is the "J-Curve" theory of revolutionary potential. Both sets of factors -- emotional and economic -- have to combine and be set off by some catalyzing event before there is sufficient potential for a political rebellion.

Also, as Skocpol and Goldstone point out, revolution doesn't just happen, it's a process that requires objective preconditions. Chalmers Johnson posited that revolution occurs only when several major subsystems of society have reached a point of "disequilibrium." The product of an actual revolution doesn't organize itself, as the Tillys observe, there has to be some sort of alternative structure created by the opposition that is capable of assuming power - that precondition is called "dual sovereignty." We're still a long way from that.
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