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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 09:19 AM
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65. Your analysis is profoundly ahistorical
The Morgenthau Plan of 1946 specifically precluded the possibility of a remilitarized Germany. At that time, the goal of the US was to reduce Germany to a deindustrialized, pacifistic state. Was Germany free to conduct an independent defense and foreign policy in 1949. or thereafter? Certainly not. The admission of the FRG into NATO was not the result of the restoration of German sovereignty as it was a condition of it. By the time Germany was truly free to conduct its own foreign policy, let's say under Brandt, they were already constrained by their treaty obligations. At that point, the Germans were not really free to ask the Americans to leave, nor were the Americans themselves free to leave: all the western allies were in agreement that, if WWIII were to be fought, it would be fought in Germany. The fact is that the Germans did "stand up" to the Soviet Union. After rearmament, they fielded twelve divisions. The FRG was allowed to reconstitute its military as the Bundesweher only so long as such as program was seen to be in the strategic interest of the US, France and the UK.

If you want to credit the US for the social democracy that evolved in Germany, it would be better to look to the influence the US had in drawing up the Grundgesetz. A good place to start would be Thomas Geoghegan's "Were You Born on the Wrong Continent" (The New Press, 2010).

I might also add that, if not for the contribution of a single German officer, von Steuben, there might not have been any United States of America in the first place.
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