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Reply #79: Of course you haven't! And you won't! That's the whole point! You can't see ANYTHING! [View All]

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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:26 PM
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79. Of course you haven't! And you won't! That's the whole point! You can't see ANYTHING!
"I know they are unverifiable, but I have not seen any unexpected outcomes"

You can't "see" ANYTHING on these types of machines. That's the whole point! And that's what absolutely wrong with DRE e-voting systems and why they are antithetical to democracy and self-governance!

"In our elections. As yet I have seen nothing that would raise suspicion. I was precinct captain. I know my precinct. I have a good idea how the election will play out in any given race. We rarely have more than 100 voters in non presidential years. That makes predictions easier."

How ridiculous. That's your measure? What you imagine the outcome to be versus what the machines reported that it was?! That's not democracy. That's best-guessing.

Moreover, you refer to your precinct as if it's the only one in the entire county. What county is it? And where do you get the idea that ANY vote cast in the county's other precincts (much less your own) has EVER been recorded as the voter intended? You are merely trusting in a system which offers not a single piece of evidence, at all, zero, nada, to confirm that even one vote was counted as cast.

"08 was a record year, and it played out as expected. Obama won our precinct, and the vote reflected party lines, and showed good independent numbers."

That assessment, with all due respect, means absolutely nothing. Has nothing to do with election with integrity.

"I don't trust the machines, but so far I see no manipulation."

You never will, if it's done right. Nor will you "see" malfunction, most likely. And when/if a result comes up that doesn't "seem" right to you, you will be left with absolutely no recourse but to accept it as is. There will be NO evidence that the machines recorded the intent of voters correctly. None.

"Next week are the state primaries. It will be very boring. No competition on the Dem side, and the Rep candidates are not inspiring the voters. David Williams will win by huge numbers on the R side. Beshear will cruise. Unless something bad happens the Dems will retain the statehouse."

I see no reason for elections to even be held in your county, since you already know the outcome. If you have such a money crunch in your county, for some reason, why not just go with "Alfredo's Assessment"? It is as meaningful as the "results" printed out by your 100% unverifiable voting systems.
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