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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 03:16 PM
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36. seems to me, it could go either way
especially since founder would often be read as "one who has founded", as in the founders of our country.

Surprisingly to me, though "founder" means 1. (of a ship) to fill with water and sink 2. (of a plan) fail 3. (of a horse or rider) fall to the ground, fall from lameness, stick fast in mud, etc." Oxford Desk Dictionary

fLounder, otoh, means "1. struggle in mud, or as if in mud, or when wading 2. perform a task badly or without knowledge." ibid.

so, to "flounder and sink" has the image, to me, of a swimmer thrashing about uselessly in the water and flailing their arms before going under whereas "founder and sink" has the image, to me, of Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, and Alexander Hamilton getting into a boat and sinking as they cross the Delaware.
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