Reply #21: Ah, yes they are.

[Bluenorthwest]

Pragmatism says truth and worth are only defined by the results, that is, if it works it is good. That idea does not work well with dogma that can not be proven with results.
I'm not anti Christian at all, in fact I was raised in the tradition, and this is why I know that Pragmatism does not cozy up well with religions that insist upon belief in the unseen.
Here is a bit from Christianity.com, by RC Sproul. This is basically what actual church folk have to say about Pragmatism. Just to give you an idea of what the word means when removed from this political/Obama/Woodchuck arena:

"What is pragmatism? Pragmatism is the only philosophy native to America. Pragmatism eschews any hope of discovering ultimate truth. It is skeptical with respect to objective principles of righteousness and defines truth as “that which works.” In this philosophy, the end always justifies the means. The driving force behind decisions within the scope of pragmatism is the force of expediency.

We remember in the days of the trial of Jesus of Nazareth, two of the important players were Caiaphas and Pontius Pilate. Both men made their decisions to have Jesus executed on the basis of expediency (Mark 15:15; John 11:45–53). Caiaphas and Pontius Pilate were pragmatists with a vengeance."

I was asking an actual question, and your response showed that what I say is true. Pragmatic Faith Based types are a tad confused about the meanings of all of those words. I think this is above the pay grade of the way y'all are using the words. Just to be clear, in my Christian education, Pragmatism was presented as a heresy. Simply declaring that they are compatible will not make them so. Pragmatism was not invented to describe the politics of Obama, it is an actual word with an actual meaning. And a Pragmatist can not declare a thing to be true 'because I just think so' which is what the anti-equality faith folk do.
I personally think it is a bad choice to try to use both of those words. To me, those who claim both of them just sound crazy, like a person saying 'I'm short and tall' or whatever.
I note that you did not counter my points, save for saying 'is not'. Very much not a Pragmatic response, but it is faith based.