Reply #527: So let me get this straight

[Goblinmonger]

You put forth the 4th definition of a word as the only definition you are offering and I present all the definitions from the same dictionary and it is I that doesn't understand language? It is I that doesn't understand words signify different things? It is important to know the rank order of the definitions to see how that dictionary feels most people use a word. I will assume that you know that about dictionaries (that's why I said you were intellectually dishonest--if you don't know that then I will substitute ignorant).

That word has a religious context according to the dictionary YOU USED. The first and second definition of the word are religious. That reflects a pretty clear indication from the writers of the dictionary that that is how it's used most of the time. Certainly there is a non-religious meaning, but it is down the line and not the most common. I'm not ignoring the secular context, I am recognizing that isn't how most people use it. Don't throw around the word "correct" when everything about how a dictionary works shows that your definition isn't the most common.