Reply #16: As does your characterization of "DU's race-to-the-bottom globalization humpers"

[pampango]

But you are right. I should not counter a "race-to-the-bottom globalization humpers" with a "make the world go away" mockery. I rose to the bait and I shouldn't have. I should be better than that and ignore the cheap name-calling with no factual content. I apologize for my characterization.

As to your factual point in your response, we probably agree that the end goal is providing "what progressive countries provide their citizens: effective national health care, support for strong unions, strong social safety nets, and progressive taxation". Where we disagree is the need to curtail trade in order to build this progressive society, while the evidence provided by Europe and Canada after WWII is that open trade and building a progressive society go hand-in-hand. It seems pointless to spend our energy fighting open trade, when the really progressive countries have more of it than we do. It's not the problem. If we can ever achieve the "effective national health care, support for strong unions, strong social safety nets, and progressive taxation", we'll be happy that we didn't throw the "baby" (open trade) out with the "bathwater" (all the repub policies that have so damaged our health care system, safety nets, unions, and taxation system).