Reply #35: joby, you make a lot of good points. I went to an engineering school

[madinmaryland]

in the midwest starting in 79 and we had a large contingent of students in the civil engineering program from the middle east. For the four years I was there, they were there to get an education. I have no idea what ever became of them.

Yes, the jingoism and nationalism of the americans was obnoxious, but more or less expected. I wish we could move past that and build a real multi-cultural society. I doubt whether I will ever see something like that in my life time.