Reply #151: Okay, decent rebutal. I'll give up the "ponzi" part.

[bhikkhu]

...and after that we could probably agree that it could work if we drastically reduced military expenditures and drastically improved our productive economy. Nothing is going to last long at the rate of our military spending, particularly how much is spent overseas, and no country exists long solely by shuttering its own production and buying products other countries make on credit.

There are the bare glimmers of hope on the manufacturing side. And if Obama reviewed and shut down just one obsolete cold war era overseas base, I'd start having some hope that things were going in the right direction there.