You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login

Reply #103: Fascinating. [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #98
103. Fascinating.
Edited on Wed Sep-23-09 03:12 PM by A HERETIC I AM
As I just said above, trade between two individuals is just that, trade.
All transactions are trades. A Sheet Metal Shear operator trades his labor for an hourly wage, just as I traded my bow and arrow for meat.

It has nothing to do with wage labor, etc.
Sure it does. In my producing a bow and arrow, I have set a price on it based on how much I value my time and effort. That price is a specific quantity of meat. If I were to get less meat than I thought I should then it wouldn't be an equitable trade to me. If I were to get more then it wouldn't be an equitable trade to you. Either way, it certainly has to do in part with what I perceive as appropriate value for my effort or "wage labor".

This sentence I find really interesting;
In a society of voluntarily associated producers the wherewithal of instituting or expanding a productive facility would be provided by that society according to to the needs and desires of those voluntarily associated producers.
So in your mind, the "wherewithal" to expand my bow and arrow making operation will be provided by "society" based simply on my "needs and desires"?

There is a reason no such society has ever long prospered or reached any technological advancements. It doesn't work in practice.

As for your example, since I expect your returning to it despite it's irrelevance, cheated, no, I'm happy if that works for ya.
Just so I'm clear here, you're okay with me making a profit as a result of your labor, right?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC