Reply #144: Dammit it all, you've found me out. I have indeed been in a cave

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with bin Laden.

And let me tell you, he's a fierce competitor at gin rummy.

You have to get up PRETTY EARLY IN THE MORNING to pull a fast one on this guy.

The literal arithmetic has you hung up. Look again, carefully, at the vote totals from the 2008 presidential election.

Mr. Obama carried the day with several tens of millions of votes.

Mr. Nader, by contrast, got a few less. Quite a damn few less.

He's marginal. He's not a player. He was barely even on the radar screen. He lost. Big.